On 1/20/2014 6:06 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

If you enter 'krause taxes' you get:

About 1,120,000 results (0.42 seconds)

Not 59 million, but a significant number of meaningless hits.

Do you suppose Google is supplying Seaman Krause bad data?

On 1/20/2014 5:02 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze


59,000,000 hits simply means references to the subject, not the number
of instances of BSOD.

On 1/20/14, 7:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 5:02 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data
is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze


59,000,000 hits simply means references to the subject, not the number
of instances of BSOD.


I know that, really.

KC wrote:
On 1/20/2014 3:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 1/20/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:41:06 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.

I agree and without the fear of pilot loss, they could get down to
treetop level "frying chickens in the barnyard".

They could get AP munitions right on the target using the full range
of systems we have..


It would be interesting to know just exactly how autonomous the drones
are... Can they discern friendly from foe, can they determine what
collateral damage will be, and decide if it's "worth it" or not to take out the mission?

The drones are piloted. They have cameras, etc. just has the pilot a
lotta thousands of miles away.


Sure, that's what they are telling us now but I am pretty sure the
artificial intelligence is adequate to go a lot further... unless you
believe the US Military is not taking full advantage of any of it they can

A cruise missile is the autonomous device. Drones are controlled.

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:33:43 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/20/2014 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:47:03 -0500, Hank wrote:

Perhaps you fellas would prefer Somalia...it's a Republican/Libertarian
paradise, from what I have read...no real government, no real rules,
plenty of guns for everyone. Paradise!

Down on Blacks again? Wink, wink.

Out of the blue he wants to focus on Somalia. Someone please tell me how
Mr. Krause makes this connection.

===

It's called running from a losing argument and changing the subject.
Harry must have studied under a woman at one time or another.

Why you guys continue to engage him is a mystery to me.

He's harmless. Annoying but harmless. He's been quite restrained lately.
Haven't you notices?


====

Definitely out of character, probably feeling some heat on his 6.

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.

I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP
over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95.

===

I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd
like it.

On 1/20/2014 9:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:48:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:40:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/20/2014 8:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/20/14, 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:15:28 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:26:13 -0500, BAR wrote:



These days there are a bunch of better options if you can get in the
air.
Napalm is cheap ;-)

With mines you set them and forget them. Napalm and other munitions
requrire you to actively
drop them when the opposing force enters an area.

I think the next generation of drone will include a heavy lift bomber.

I'll bet there's a B-52 somewhere already capable of unmanned flight.



Just imagine the fun that will ensue when the Windows operating system
on that heavy bomber crashes, and the plane delivers the Blue Screen of
Death to a Virginia subdivision.


Harry, I think you are still living in the past when it comes to
Windows. It took many years but it has evolved into being a very stable
and reliable platform, especially with Win 7 and Win 8. Even Vista is
ok if you have enough RAM. I have *never* experienced the "Blue Screen
of Death" on either the Vista or Win 7 laptops. I bought the Vista
machine in 2009. It has had programs (or "apps) freeze up once in a
while, with the "program not responding" thing, but usually if I just
have patience and wait it will clear itself. If not, I just manually
close the program using the task manager and restart it.

BTW ... I've had the same thing happen on both my new iMac and on
Mrs.E's iMac, requiring a "forced quit".

I was reading the other day that 90 percent of ATM machines are still
running on Windows XP and there is going to be major employment
opportunities for techs as they are all upgraded or replaced with Win 7
based systems.

I've grown to like the iMac for what I do with it but I also realize
that 70 percent of computer users are using Windows. Of course there
will be a larger number of problems reported. That doesn't include
industrial applications like ATMs and even some aircraft avionics that
use Windows.

I've had XP for quite a while now and love it. My wife has had Vista and now Windows 7. I'll take XP
over both. Haven't seen the blue screen since Windows 95.

===

I've used them all and 7 is way better than Vista. I think you'd
like it.



I agree that Win 7 is better than Vista but I really don't have any
issues with the laptop I am using right now which is running Vista.

As previously mentioned, it takes much longer to boot up from a cold
start but once running it's fine. I've tweaked and peaked a few things
over the year that I've had it .. about 5 years now ... and it performs
ok. I prefer it somewhat to my Win 7 laptop because this one has a
bigger screen. I figure someday in the near future something is going
to crap out ... probably the hard drive ... but until then I'll keep
using it. I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died
in it. It won't boot up anymore.

There are some features and upgrades in Win 7 and 8 that Vista doesn't
have ... like the ability to natively view .mp4 video files and a much
improved Windows Movie maker. The newer Movie Maker version and codex
files for .mp4 can probably be added to Vista but I haven't bothered.

At some point I am going to attempt making a video file using the app
that comes with the iMac. I haven't tried it yet but I understand it
can do a lot more than the current Windows Movie Maker.

On 1/20/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

I have been using Windows based laptops for real time navigation on
all of my boats for the last 15 years, in all kinds of conditions,
several different operating systems, and a bunch of different GPS
devices. None of them has ever experienced a blue screen of death
while underway. BSDs are usually associated with new hardware devices
that do not yet have the correct driver installed. Once you are past
that, everything is usually very solid.

The only app that hangs on my Win7 desktop is iTunes. About 5-10% of
openings are non-responding.

On 1/20/14, 11:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:02:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/20/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:36:23 -0500, KC wrote:


When you hear about the blue screen you realize how stale that data is.

Yeah, don't think I have seen one in years.... and I run a lot of
programs on my little win7 laptop at one time. Typically I may be
downloading a movie, and converting another to avi while running a
graphics program, a web design program, and surfing the web... all at
the same time. Might start Word or Flash during that run too. I shut
down, maybe once a day, sometimes not for days...

I have four XP machines here running 24/7/365 and they never crash.
The only time 2 of them usually get booted is when the power is off
longer than the UPS will hold them and then they go down hard. They
come right back.
Occasionally I will do the updates and that may or may not reboot
them. I don't have hangs, crashes or other maladies tho. If I did, I
would look for a hardware problem.


If you enter "BSODs on Windows 7" you get 59,000,000 hits. That's 59
million. Stale data, indeed.

http://tinyurl.com/kfez9ze

Yup 59 million hits saying basically the same thing


"Determine if you changed anything recently. The most common cause of
the Blue Screen is a recent change in your computer’s settings or
hardware. This is often related to new drivers getting installed or
updated. Drivers are software that allow your hardware to communicate
with Windows.[1]

Because there are essentially an infinite number of hardware
configurations possible, drivers can’t be tested for every possible
setup. This means that sometimes a driver will be installed that
causes a critical error when communicating with the hardware."


... What Wayne said.



I don't know "what Wayne said," as he is down in my bozo bin with
slammer, earl, and Billy Bruce. I'm sure slammer is keeping everyone
down there properly entertained.

On 1/21/14, 12:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:10:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I still have an older XP laptop but something recently died
in it. It won't boot up anymore.

Any idea of what is going on? Does it get through POST? Do you see
signs of life from the boot drive?

I hate seeing these things getting thrown in the land fill for a minor
problem.



If it is an old laptop, and it isn't a software or software update
problem, then you have to weigh the time and expense involved in a
repair versus buying a new laptops. Run of the mill laptops are pretty
cheap these days, and almost any of them would be many steps up from an
old XP-era laptop.

There also are plenty of used, operating laptops available at pawnshops.
I saw a whole showcase full of them when I was salivating over the
McIntosh amp I finally bought.