On 11/29/13, 8:08 PM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:41:42 PM UTC-6,
No, I am not a theologian, but I did have as a college roommate for an

academic year a fellow who got his master's at Union Theological

Seminary, and was ordained an Episcopal priest. He got me to go to

Sunday Episcopal services on campus because, he claimed, they served the

best Sunday student breakfast and had the best-looking coeds at their

services. He was right on both counts.

Of course there would be an alternate motive for going.


He and I argued some on issues religious. We're still close friends.



I have an M.A. in English, and my concentration was in etymology. As for

your interpretations, you're just proving my point, that biblical

interpretation is in the mind of the beholder. There's nothing wrong or

intellectually dishonest about that, as long as one admits it.



I'm glad you told me. THANKS! But, you don't believe in the book anyhow. so why make a big deal out of it? I mean, why are you trying to interpret something something you don't believe in anyhow?


An alternative motive for "going," beyond the free eats and hot
chicks...I didn't see any. I was agnostic 50 years ago when I was
getting my B.A.

I believe "the book" is a book. As for "interpretation," it is just an
intellectual pursuit. Do you have some actual evidence the bible wasn't
written, translated and rewritten by bunches of guys over a relatively
long time period? You know, some sort of "supreme" writing?

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On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:42:41 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/29/13, 8:08 PM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:41:42 PM UTC-6,

No, I am not a theologian, but I did have as a college roommate for an



academic year a fellow who got his master's at Union Theological



Seminary, and was ordained an Episcopal priest. He got me to go to



Sunday Episcopal services on campus because, he claimed, they served the



best Sunday student breakfast and had the best-looking coeds at their



services. He was right on both counts.



Of course there would be an alternate motive for going.





He and I argued some on issues religious. We're still close friends.







I have an M.A. in English, and my concentration was in etymology. As for



your interpretations, you're just proving my point, that biblical



interpretation is in the mind of the beholder. There's nothing wrong or



intellectually dishonest about that, as long as one admits it.







I'm glad you told me. THANKS! But, you don't believe in the book anyhow.. so why make a big deal out of it? I mean, why are you trying to interpret something something you don't believe in anyhow?





An alternative motive for "going," beyond the free eats and hot

chicks...I didn't see any. I was agnostic 50 years ago when I was

getting my B.A.



I believe "the book" is a book. As for "interpretation," it is just an

intellectual pursuit. Do you have some actual evidence the bible wasn't

written, translated and rewritten by bunches of guys over a relatively

long time period? You know, some sort of "supreme" writing?


Hey Harry. I believe 'the book' in just as much as you believe the opposite.. But one thing. You've insulted and will continue to do so, 'the book' and whom it is about , it's writers, its theme, and it's followers far, far more than I will ever think of insulting those who don't believe in 'the book'

But that's ok. We're used to it...

On 11/30/13, 12:19 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, November 29, 2013 7:42:41 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/29/13, 8:08 PM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:41:42 PM UTC-6,

No, I am not a theologian, but I did have as a college roommate for an



academic year a fellow who got his master's at Union Theological



Seminary, and was ordained an Episcopal priest. He got me to go to



Sunday Episcopal services on campus because, he claimed, they served the



best Sunday student breakfast and had the best-looking coeds at their



services. He was right on both counts.



Of course there would be an alternate motive for going.





He and I argued some on issues religious. We're still close friends.







I have an M.A. in English, and my concentration was in etymology. As for



your interpretations, you're just proving my point, that biblical



interpretation is in the mind of the beholder. There's nothing wrong or



intellectually dishonest about that, as long as one admits it.







I'm glad you told me. THANKS! But, you don't believe in the book anyhow. so why make a big deal out of it? I mean, why are you trying to interpret something something you don't believe in anyhow?





An alternative motive for "going," beyond the free eats and hot

chicks...I didn't see any. I was agnostic 50 years ago when I was

getting my B.A.



I believe "the book" is a book. As for "interpretation," it is just an

intellectual pursuit. Do you have some actual evidence the bible wasn't

written, translated and rewritten by bunches of guys over a relatively

long time period? You know, some sort of "supreme" writing?


Hey Harry. I believe 'the book' in just as much as you believe the opposite. But one thing. You've insulted and will continue to do so, 'the book' and whom it is about , it's writers, its theme, and it's followers far, far more than I will ever think of insulting those who don't believe in 'the book'

But that's ok. We're used to it...


It's just a book, Tim. There's not a shred of proof that it was written
by other than men, or that there was a divine hand in its writing.
Anyone in this country is free to believe whatever they wish about it,
so long as they don't try to force by law those beliefs onto society or
others who believe differently. This country has no state religion.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:38:52 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


It's just a book, Tim. There's not a shred of proof that it was written

by other than men, or that there was a divine hand in its writing.





to you it is, Harry, Some of us live it.

On 11/30/13, 8:34 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:38:52 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


It's just a book, Tim. There's not a shred of proof that it was written

by other than men, or that there was a divine hand in its writing.





to you it is, Harry, Some of us live it.


No one is stopping you from "living it," whatever that means, so long as
you don't force others to believe as you do.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:47:43 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/30/13, 8:34 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:38:52 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


It's just a book, Tim. There's not a shred of proof that it was written

by other than men, or that there was a divine hand in its writing.





to you it is, Harry, Some of us live it.


No one is stopping you from "living it," whatever that means, so long as
you don't force others to believe as you do.

When was the last time you were 'forced' to do anything religious. Muslims are the ones doing the
'forcing' these days, and you seem to think they're God's gift to mankind.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:47:43 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


to you it is, Harry, Some of us live it.


No one is stopping you from "living it," whatever that means, so long as

you don't force others to believe as you do.

And who is forcing who to do what?

On 11/30/13, 1:55 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:47:43 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


to you it is, Harry, Some of us live it.


No one is stopping you from "living it," whatever that means, so long as

you don't force others to believe as you do.

And who is forcing who to do what?


Are you kidding? All over this country, "religious" politicians are
waging war on womens' health, on gays, on immigrants. You haven't
noticed, or you don't care...which is it?

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Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:38:52 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


It's just a book, Tim.

Then why do you hate it so?

On 11/30/13, 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:38:52 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


It's just a book, Tim.

Then why do you hate it so?


What is it with you righties and the "hate" word? You guys use that word
a lot.

I don't "hate" the bible, Tim. I even like the King James version
because of its beautiful use of the English language. I will say,
though, that I'm not a fan of how some in this country "use" the bible
to "hate" people in groups they don't like.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.