"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in
Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public
at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.



The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson
said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper
body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds
were considered serious.

The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at
the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in
Willamsburg.

The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they
were not looking for suspects.

That's about all the "meat" revealed.

Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is
if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking
for one.



Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like
domestic violence.



The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking
treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an
empty bed, or so the news reports.

According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities
for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common
problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the
funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not
easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds
of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it.

Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health
coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right?


He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential
facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's
insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid.

iBoaterer wrote:
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.



The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson
said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper
body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds
were considered serious.

The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at
the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in
Willamsburg.

The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they
were not looking for suspects.

That's about all the "meat" revealed.

Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Yeah, there could have been even more bloodshed and death, eh Christian?

Was an attempted murder, suicide. Suicide worked.

On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in
Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public
at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.



The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the spokesperson
said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the upper
body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His wounds
were considered serious.

The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional student at
the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in Virginia, in
Willamsburg.

The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference, they
were not looking for suspects.

That's about all the "meat" revealed.

Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is
if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking
for one.



Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds like
domestic violence.



The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking
treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an
empty bed, or so the news reports.

According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities
for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common
problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the
funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not
easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many kinds
of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance that will cover it.

Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health
coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right?


He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential
facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's
insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid.


Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric
hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted
in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in
Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public
at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or
other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.



The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the
spokesperson
said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the
upper
body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His
wounds
were considered serious.

The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional
student at
the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in
Virginia, in
Willamsburg.

The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference,
they
were not looking for suspects.

That's about all the "meat" revealed.

Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is
if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking
for one.



Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds
like
domestic violence.



The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking
treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an
empty bed, or so the news reports.

According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities
for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common
problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the
funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not
easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many
kinds
of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance
that will cover it.

Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health
coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right?


He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential
facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's
insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid.


Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric
hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are.


CNN reports:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a
mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but
was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide
area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the
Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper.


And once again, Bilious...every day for you.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 5:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.

Did not see Harry's other note. Can not put it all in one thread?


It's a *developing* news story. That means details are released as they
are released. Got it?


Add to the original thread. Got it?

On 11/19/2013 8:51 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:01:08 -0600, Califbill
wrote:


Was an attempted murder, suicide. Suicide worked.

Maybe, or the senator could have been defending himself.

I question why a guy with a gun would stab someone.

My ? too. We'll find out soon enough.

--
Americans deserve better.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/19/13, 8:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 4:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/19/2013 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:59:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:52:02 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 11/19/13, 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted
in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in
Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public
at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or
other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.



The Virginia State Police had a news conference, and the
spokesperson
said the Creigh Deeds had been stabbed numerous times around the
upper
body and head. Deeds was conscious and talked to the police. His
wounds
were considered serious.

The dead person, who was shot, is Deeds' son, an occasional
student at
the College of William and Mary, a first-rate college in
Virginia, in
Willamsburg.

The police spokesperson said that at the time of the conference,
they
were not looking for suspects.

That's about all the "meat" revealed.

Damn shame the Deeds didn't have a gun handy.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Somebody had a gun because the son was shot. The only open question is
if there was a 3d party involved. The cops said they are not looking
for one.



Assuming the police "are not looking for suspects", it sure sounds
like
domestic violence.



The dead son had serious emotional issues and apparently was seeking
treatment but there was no facility in his part of the state with an
empty bed, or so the news reports.

According to my wife, who knows about the "availability" of facilities
for those who need a residential program, the lack of space is a common
problem in this country almost everywhere, especially if you don't the
funds or insurance to pay $2000+ a day for a private facility. It's not
easy to find space for day treatment, either, or, in fact, for many
kinds
of treatment for mental/emotional problems sans cash or insurance
that will cover it.

Hey, this is America. I'm sure the Republican plan to provide health
coverage to all Americans will take care of this, right?


He was a state senator. If anyone could get a room at a residential
facility, he would be top of the list. And since the kid is on the dad's
insurance, sine he was under 26, the state would have paid.


Oh. You're familiar with the availability of beds at psychiatric
hospitals in that part of Virginia. Well, of course you are.


CNN reports:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a
mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but was
released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide area
of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the Rockbridge
Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper.


And once again, Bilious...every day for you.


He was a Senator. I bet they could have got a room! Seems as if the
Dr.Dr.Dr.'s of Virginia did not think he was that bad. Makes those mental
health professionals look a little incompetent.

On 11/19/13, 8:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/19/13, 5:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:21 -0500, Hank©
wrote:

On 11/19/2013 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Virginia State Senator Creigh Deeds hospitalized

Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds was transported to a hospital
Tuesday with serious injuries after allegedly being assaulted in his
Bath County home earlier in the morning, according to NBC News.

A second individual was found deceased inside the residence.

Deeds, who was the 2009 Democratic nominee for governor, is being
treated at the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville.

State police plan to hold a news conference to update the public at noon
today.
What sort of trauma did Deeds suffer?
Was the deceased Dem or Rep, Male or female, black white or other. By
what means was the deceased dispatched?

Cmon Mr. Dip**** reporter. Don't you remember the 5 Ws.

It was in Harry's original note
"An earlier news report stated the dead person was an adult son of
Deeds and he had been shot."

Sen Deeds was stabbed.

So far CNN is not talking about any other people.

Did not see Harry's other note. Can not put it all in one thread?


It's a *developing* news story. That means details are released as they
are released. Got it?


Add to the original thread. Got it?


You're not in charge.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/19/13, 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:41:29 -0500, BAR wrote:


The sad thing is that the kid, the one who offed himself, was released because they didn't
have a bed in a pshyc facility available for him. I guess closing down all of the mental
healht care facilities and releasing all of the nut jobs in the 70's served its purpose.

That was mostly caused by a series of cases where the courts decided
involuntary commitment equated to depriving a person of liberty and
could only be imposed by due process. (14th amendment).
Subsequent laws that defined "evaluations" further restricted exactly
how long someone can be held with or without a court order.


Actually it may have been caused by a severe shortage of psychiatric
beds in Virgina as a result of cuts imposed on budgets in the last
couple of years by the governor and the state legislature, according to
the latest news.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/19/13, 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:14:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

CNN reports:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a
mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but
was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide
area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the
Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper.

Didn't you also post that Cropper was softening on that story?


No. But his later comments didn't reference that.

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Religion: together we can find the cure.