On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:33:13 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ain't gonna work.




Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of
the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the
presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA
will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing
crazies are voted out of congress.

This gets back to what I said earlier.

"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any
party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around
next time.
You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they
don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.
Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point
that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what
some actor tells them to do..

I don't see that happening for at least one or two more liberal regimes. Even then there will be
such dependence on the government by so many that it will be very tough for a Republican to be
elected, unless his plank is to give away the farm.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

In article , says...

On 11/1/2013 9:46 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 20:36:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/1/13, 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ain't gonna work.




Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of
the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the
presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA
will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing
crazies are voted out of congress.

This gets back to what I said earlier.

"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any
party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around
next time.
You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they
don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.
Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point
that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what
some actor tells them to do..


We're headed for a major societal restructuring in this country, one in
which the lower income and disenfranchised middle income groups move us
towards European socialism because, simply, this no longer is a land of
opportunity for most of those who want to climb up the ladder. Either we
have that restructuring peaceably or rich guys will find their heads on
pikes.

If the middle class was willing to pay Don's taxes, the problems would
be solved ... but they aren't
The politician who would propose German or Scandinavian tax rates
would be run out of town on a rail.


But one that's putting us there and lying about it, is considered a King!??

He's President of the United States, dip****.

On 2 Nov 2013 01:10:21 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

True North wrote:
On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and
one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire
community, not just our own interests.

We are nowhere near socialism.

Pray more and with more feeling.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.

Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building
mosques and Islamic schools.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

7uu`In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.

Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building
mosques and Islamic schools.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Who "desires" an Islamic government?

On 11/2/13, 12:35 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
7uu`In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.

Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building
mosques and Islamic schools.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Who "desires" an Islamic government?


The right-wingers desire an Islamic-like, religious government.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

7uu`In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.

Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building
mosques and Islamic schools.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Who "desires" an Islamic government?

I was addressing Don White.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:10:02 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



7uu`In article ,

says...



On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







Ain't gonna work.



















Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of



the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the



presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA



will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing



crazies are voted out of congress.







This gets back to what I said earlier.







"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any



party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around



next time.



You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they



don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.



Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point



that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what



some actor tells them to do..





Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.

I use neither.

Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.



Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building

mosques and Islamic schools.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Who "desires" an Islamic government?



I was addressing Don White.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Were you now, Johnny.
In that case.. cite where I desire an Islamic government...

On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:10:02 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



7uu`In article ,

says...



On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







Ain't gonna work.



















Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of



the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the



presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA



will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing



crazies are voted out of congress.







This gets back to what I said earlier.







"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any



party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around



next time.



You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they



don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.



Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point



that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what



some actor tells them to do..





Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.

I use neither.

Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.



Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building

mosques and Islamic schools.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Who "desires" an Islamic government?



I was addressing Don White.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Were you now, Johnny.
In that case.. cite where I desire an Islamic government...

Don, your silence speaks volumes!

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 11/2/13, 1:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:10:02 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



7uu`In article ,

says...



On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







Ain't gonna work.



















Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of



the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the



presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA



will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing



crazies are voted out of congress.







This gets back to what I said earlier.







"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any



party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around



next time.



You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they



don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.



Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point



that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what



some actor tells them to do..





Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.

I use neither.

Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.



Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building

mosques and Islamic schools.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Who "desires" an Islamic government?



I was addressing Don White.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Were you now, Johnny.
In that case.. cite where I desire an Islamic government...



You wouldn't want to live in the sort of world Herring desires.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.