F.O.A.D. wrote:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.
Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of
the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the
presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA
will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing
crazies are voted out of congress.


This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..

Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and
one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire
community, not just our own interests.
We are nowhere near socialism.
That's your wife's property bill tax bill - one that will be paid.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

7uu`In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.

Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building
mosques and Islamic schools.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Who "desires" an Islamic government?

I was addressing Don White.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

So, I'm addressing you, who said that they desired an Islamic
government? And FYI, you DO know that there is a difference between
"Islam" and "Muslim", don't you? You use them interchangeability and
that's not correct.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:10:02 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



7uu`In article ,

says...



On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:



On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:







Ain't gonna work.



















Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of



the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the



presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA



will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing



crazies are voted out of congress.







This gets back to what I said earlier.







"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any



party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around



next time.



You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they



don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.



Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point



that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what



some actor tells them to do..





Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs in our schools.

I use neither.

Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire community, not just our own interests.



Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your property taxes would be building

mosques and Islamic schools.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Who "desires" an Islamic government?



I was addressing Don White.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Were you now, Johnny.
In that case.. cite where I desire an Islamic government...

Don, your silence speaks volumes!

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

In other words, you once again lied.

In article , says...

On 11/2/2013 2:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/2/13, 1:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:10:02 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



7uu`In article ,

says...



On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:



On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:







Ain't gonna work.



















Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose
control of



the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not
win the



presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again,
the ACA



will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist
right wing



crazies are voted out of congress.







This gets back to what I said earlier.







"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing
and any



party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be
around



next time.



You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they



don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.



Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point



that they actually start voting their own best interests and not
what



some actor tells them to do..





Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter
and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs
in our schools.

I use neither.

Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the
entire community, not just our own interests.



Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your
property taxes would be building

mosques and Islamic schools.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Who "desires" an Islamic government?



I was addressing Don White.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Were you now, Johnny.
In that case.. cite where I desire an Islamic government...



You wouldn't want to live in the sort of world Herring desires.


Neither of you would, or could for that matter....

I sure wouldn't. Remember now, your buddy John has defended parts of the
Bible as untrue.

In article , says...

On 11/2/2013 8:03 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:33:13 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ain't gonna work.




Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of
the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the
presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA
will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing
crazies are voted out of congress.

This gets back to what I said earlier.

"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any
party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around
next time.
You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they
don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.
Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point
that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what
some actor tells them to do..

I don't see that happening for at least one or two more liberal regimes. Even then there will be
such dependence on the government by so many that it will be very tough for a Republican to be
elected, unless his plank is to give away the farm.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



It's been the plan all along. Nobody remember Vincente Fox (sp?) from
Mexico telling his people to come up here, and raise lot's of little
voters....?

Cite?

In article , says...

On 11/2/2013 8:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 11/1/2013 9:46 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 20:36:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/1/13, 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ain't gonna work.




Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of
the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win the
presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA
will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right wing
crazies are voted out of congress.

This gets back to what I said earlier.

"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any
party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around
next time.
You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they
don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.
Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point
that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what
some actor tells them to do..


We're headed for a major societal restructuring in this country, one in
which the lower income and disenfranchised middle income groups move us
towards European socialism because, simply, this no longer is a land of
opportunity for most of those who want to climb up the ladder. Either we
have that restructuring peaceably or rich guys will find their heads on
pikes.

If the middle class was willing to pay Don's taxes, the problems would
be solved ... but they aren't
The politician who would propose German or Scandinavian tax rates
would be run out of town on a rail.


But one that's putting us there and lying about it, is considered a King!??

He's President of the United States, dip****.


I didn't ask you bitch...

Damn that jawbone's making you post low class crap again...

In article , says...

On 11/2/2013 12:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/2/13, 12:35 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
7uu`In article ,
says...

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Ain't gonna work.









Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose control of

the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not win
the

presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again, the ACA

will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist right
wing

crazies are voted out of congress.



This gets back to what I said earlier.



"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing and any

party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be around

next time.

You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they

don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.

Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point

that they actually start voting their own best interests and not what

some actor tells them to do..


Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter
and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs
in our schools.
I use neither.
Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the entire
community, not just our own interests.

Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your
property taxes would be building
mosques and Islamic schools.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Who "desires" an Islamic government?


The right-wingers desire an Islamic-like, religious government.


Bull****, period...

http://tinyurl.com/m9nfn35

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

http://www.spectacle.org/297/fairiss.html

On 11/3/13, 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 11/2/2013 2:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/2/13, 1:56 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:10:02 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:35:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



7uu`In article ,

says...



On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:



On Friday, 1 November 2013 20:33:13 UTC-3, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:31:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:







Ain't gonna work.



















Sure it will. Either in 2014 or 2016, the Repubs will lose
control of



the house, perhaps lose seats in the senate and of course, not
win the



presidency. As soon as the government is in sane hands again,
the ACA



will evolve. Nothing is going to be done until the extremist
right wing



crazies are voted out of congress.







This gets back to what I said earlier.







"Fixing" this plan will require more revenue or more borrowing
and any



party that makes that kind of tax increases is not going to be
around



next time.



You will be left with young people paying a lot for insurance they



don't want or paying much higher taxes for the rest of their life.



Neither will be popular. The question is when that reaches the point



that they actually start voting their own best interests and not
what



some actor tells them to do..





Looking at my property tax bill, I notice that between one quarter
and one third goes to support public transit and enriched programs
in our schools.

I use neither.

Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet for the good of the
entire community, not just our own interests.



Just think, if you had that Islamic government you desire, your
property taxes would be building

mosques and Islamic schools.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Who "desires" an Islamic government?



I was addressing Don White.



John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Were you now, Johnny.
In that case.. cite where I desire an Islamic government...



You wouldn't want to live in the sort of world Herring desires.


Neither of you would, or could for that matter....

I sure wouldn't. Remember now, your buddy John has defended parts of the
Bible as untrue.



What? Parts of the bible are...NOT TRUE? Are you sure?
Which parts are true?

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/1/2013 4:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That Florida woman's canceled Blue Cross policy? It's junk insurance.
She can get a real plan for only $165 a month


The silver plan starts at $300 and goes as high as $600.

So, using tools available through eHealthinsurance.com (I'll walk you
through this useful resource tomorrow),
I determined that she qualifies for a premium subsidy of $320 a
month. She can use that to purchase a Humana Direct Silver 4600/6300
plan for $165 a month.

It is just wonderful to see another welfare plan fired up.
This particular women get $320 a month for her health insurance.
I noticed all the democrats bragging about the low cost of these
plans for their constituents, not mentioning that someone else is
paying part of their premium.

BTW, Does anyone have a link to show where this subsidy money comes from?
What are the chances we will have 50 million people collecting on
this new welfare program?
Mikek

Grandfathered in at $633 mo. O'care is $1311 for the bronze plan, with
the welfare payment included.

On 11/3/2013 6:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/3/13, 4:45 PM, amdx wrote:
On 11/1/2013 4:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


That Florida woman's canceled Blue Cross policy? It's junk insurance.
She can get a real plan for only $165 a month


The silver plan starts at $300 and goes as high as $600.

So, using tools available through eHealthinsurance.com (I'll walk you
through this useful resource tomorrow),
I determined that she qualifies for a premium subsidy of $320 a
month. She can use that to purchase a Humana Direct Silver 4600/6300
plan for $165 a month.

It is just wonderful to see another welfare plan fired up.
This particular women get $320 a month for her health insurance.
I noticed all the democrats bragging about the low cost of these
plans for their constituents, not mentioning that someone else is
paying part of their premium.

BTW, Does anyone have a link to show where this subsidy money comes from?
What are the chances we will have 50 million people collecting on
this new welfare program?
Mikek

Grandfathered in at $633 mo. O'care is $1311 for the bronze plan, with
the welfare payment included.





What's your solution for people who can't afford medical insurance or
medical care? Don't tell me the ER, because that doesn't work if you
need more than stabilization a relatively minor condition. So, what's
your solution, let 'em die? Oh, and who do you think pays for the care
those who can't pay get? The tooth fairy?
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Why are you asking MikeK for the solution? It's O'bama's job to get us
out of the mess he's made.