On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:15:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How did "native American" suddenly get limited to "Navaho"?

I am not sure why they are not running casinos and cigarette stores.
Maybe it is because they are out in the desert ... but so is Las
Vegas.

What percentage of Native Americans are millionaires compared to the
general population?

If the Shakopee Mdewakanton Tribe is any indication, there are a bunch of them.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:36:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/23/13, 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How did "native American" suddenly get limited to "Navaho"?

I am not sure why they are not running casinos and cigarette stores.
Maybe it is because they are out in the desert ... but so is Las
Vegas.



How many "native American" millionaires not involved in casinos and tax
free cigarettes can you name?


It would be an interesting study to see what percentage of indians are
not involved in cigarettes and casinos.

After all it is 2013 and the Navahos are not held on the reservation
by law. They can load up the pickup and move to town.
There must be something keeping them there.

http://tinyurl.com/l644jj7

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:15:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How did "native American" suddenly get limited to "Navaho"?

I am not sure why they are not running casinos and cigarette stores.
Maybe it is because they are out in the desert ... but so is Las
Vegas.

What percentage of Native Americans are millionaires compared to the
general population?

If the Shakopee Mdewakanton Tribe is any indication, there are a bunch of them.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Horse****.

wrote:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:36:35 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/23/13, 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How did "native American" suddenly get limited to "Navaho"?

I am not sure why they are not running casinos and cigarette stores.
Maybe it is because they are out in the desert ... but so is Las
Vegas.



How many "native American" millionaires not involved in casinos and tax
free cigarettes can you name?


It would be an interesting study to see what percentage of indians are
not involved in cigarettes and casinos.

After all it is 2013 and the Navahos are not held on the reservation
by law. They can load up the pickup and move to town.
There must be something keeping them there.

They can go to paid training as much as they want. Do not know if it is
still in operation but there was a school in Oakland. Lots of Indians came
and took lots of job training classes. I think it made for a paid vacation
in the city.

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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:05:44 -0400, John H
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:47:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Because they are still to this day used as attractions, etc.

They also use themselves as attractions. Come visit DC during the
Native American day held here. Or,
go visit the Navajo Nation and see the attractions put up by that tribe.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.

Oh, yeah, all native Americans are filthy rich beyond anyone's wildest
dreams.....

A lot of tribes are very rich. How come they are not sharing with the
fellow Indians? We have tribes here who have had shooting wars over who is
in the tribe after the casino gets successful. The Aqua Caliente band of
the Cahullia tribe are very wealthy. They own most of Palm Springs. Most
of those expensive properties lease the land. Where is there care for
their breathers?
http://www.aguacaliente.org/content/...20Enterprises/

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/23/13, 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:05:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:47:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Because they are still to this day used as attractions, etc.

They also use themselves as attractions. Come visit DC during the
Native American day held here. Or,
go visit the Navajo Nation and see the attractions put up by that tribe.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How many Navaho are living in a wikiup or trailer house next to a nice
government provided home? Try visiting and talking to the locals on the
reservation.

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On 10/22/2013 1:48 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:27:19 -0500, Califbill
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iBoaterer wrote:

Yeah, Native Americans were treated SO much the same as the whites who
pushed them onto reservations with deplorable conditions....

Was not a finer moment in our history. But the Indians push other tribes
in to places with deplorable conditions also. You think the Navahos and
other Apaches were living in the desert southwest because they wanted to?

That is true. The indians are the ones who first brought slavery to
North America.

Yeah, white man had every right to push the natives to their rightful
place in ****ty, unproducing land...... right?



So, what have you done to pay them back?

Treat them with the respect they deserve.


Wow! What a hero...

What respect do they deserve? Just because they are Indian? Because 100
years ago, they were treated badly? Because they work hard and still can
not make it? Because they have a huge illiteracy problem? Why?

Because they are still to this day used as attractions, etc.

Huh? What group besides Indians are using them as an attraction?

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On 10/21/2013 1:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:36:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/19/2013 5:23 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Sen. Bernie Sanders was appointed to a Senate and House budget
conference committee to create a long-term budget plan by Dec. 13 to
avert another government shutdown. A member of the Senate Budget
Committee, Sanders said he looks forward to developing an alternative to
the stopgap, sequestration-level budget that Congress approved late
Wednesday as part of an agreement to reopen the government. ?I am
excited about being a member of the budget conference committee and I
look forward to working with my Democratic and Republican colleagues to
end the absurdity of sequestration and to develop a budget which works
for all Americans. In my view, it is imperative that this new budget
helps us create the millions of jobs we desperately need and does not
balance the budget on the backs of working people, the elderly, the
children, the sick and the poor,? Sanders said.

Now, we need Elizabeth Warren on the conference committee.


Ms. Warren is busy becoming "Washingtonized"

Not. She's got a moral compass that's not about to be corrupted.
She's not driven by money. She's driven by the best use of it.


Ha! Lied her way into college, stealing resources and respect from real
American Indians that deserved it...

What a moron! Speaking of respect, they are Native Americans....

How much Indian does it require to be Native American? My aunt was 1/4
Cherokee. My cousin got preferential promotion in the police department
because he was part Indian. How much was his life negatively impacted
because he had some Indian blood? He had the same basic childhood I had,
his brothers were also successful without the preference. To be an Indian
for tribal fishing rights on the Klamath River, you have to be at least
1/84th. Besides, Native Americans were just earlier immigrants. And they
killed each other with abandon also.

Yeah, Native Americans were treated SO much the same as the whites who
pushed them onto reservations with deplorable conditions....

Was not a finer moment in our history. But the Indians push other tribes
in to places with deplorable conditions also. You think the Navahos and
other Apaches were living in the desert southwest because they wanted to?

Yes.

Cite.

They fought for control of the area, dip****.

They were living there because the Sioux had run them off the plains. They
fought for control, as where were they going if they lost? The Mescalero's
hated them, so they could not go south, and they could not go north again
as they already had their ass kicked there.

Cite.

Look at any history of the Indians. Even with few whites around, the
Indians still attacked. Look up the Redsticks in south Alabama in 1813.
Was originally a civil war among Indians and since the American military
was in the area because of the War of 1812, they also started attacking
whites.

Nobody claimed they didn't attack. You gave specific events, The Sioux
running the Apaches into the dessert southwest. So, I asked for a cite,
and you type some blather about Alabama!

Just look up Sioux history. Google can be your friend. But read your
cites before posting.

Gee, maybe YOU need to learn something:

http://www.crystalinks.com/apache.html

So, there you go, nothing about the Sioux driving the Apache out, and
lots about the Apache nation, which was certainly already in the
southwest all the way to the Mexican border. Your bull**** about the
Mescaleros hating them is of course just that, they were part OF the
Apache nation.

Mescalero's may have been Apache, but they actually sided with the whites,
in the rule that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. They were bitter
enemy's with most of the other tribes. The Mescalero's were more Mexican,
even spoke Spanish. You notice the Apache were Nomadic tribes, and were
also Plains Indians until the Sioux got horses and ran them off the plains.

I'm sorry, where does it say that?

You need to be a better follower of history.

On 10/23/2013 1:15 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How did "native American" suddenly get limited to "Navaho"?

I am not sure why they are not running casinos and cigarette stores.
Maybe it is because they are out in the desert ... but so is Las
Vegas.

What percentage of Native Americans are millionaires compared to the
general population?


You want us to go get facts for you to argue? Why not go get the info
and bring it to the discussion?

On 10/23/2013 1:28 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:15:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:02:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

They have become millionaires from gambling, tax free cigarettes and
other enterprises we used to associate with the Mafia.


Oh, really? Just how many Navajo are millionaires?

How did "native American" suddenly get limited to "Navaho"?

I am not sure why they are not running casinos and cigarette stores.
Maybe it is because they are out in the desert ... but so is Las
Vegas.

What percentage of Native Americans are millionaires compared to the
general population?

If the Shakopee Mdewakanton Tribe is any indication, there are a bunch of them.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



John, I suggest it might be easier for us to let kevin get numbers to
counter ours, rather than just have him sit there calling for
cites/proof of what we already understand to be the truth.. My point is,
if he thinks he has an argument, let him go do the research and counter
your posits, instead of starting the conversation with him tying you up
because he doesn't have any info and wants you to fill him in....