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On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:01:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1426625823404328806.013374bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. "The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America. The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]" Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the 2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003- 2005 was $33,627.[12] Why don't the Indians get an education and jobs? Maybe it is government handout dependence. Sort of like Chicago inner city 76% male school dropout rate and a dependence on monthly government handouts. No incentive to work. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they'd rather live in squalor on the government's measly stipend that work. You do realize, don't you, that many have elderly relatives on the reservations, they themselves no nothing else but those reservations, and that reservations are typically far, far away from any sort of job centers, don't you? Is the same true for the welfare recipients in Chicago? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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#94
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John H wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:01:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 1426625823404328806.013374bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. "The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America. The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]" Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the 2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003- 2005 was $33,627.[12] Why don't the Indians get an education and jobs? Maybe it is government handout dependence. Sort of like Chicago inner city 76% male school dropout rate and a dependence on monthly government handouts. No incentive to work. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they'd rather live in squalor on the government's measly stipend that work. You do realize, don't you, that many have elderly relatives on the reservations, they themselves no nothing else but those reservations, and that reservations are typically far, far away from any sort of job centers, don't you? Is the same true for the welfare recipients in Chicago? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Cannon de Chelly is not that far from Las Vegas. They could go there to work. All those people taking care of elderly relatives? How do white people handle elderly relatives? |
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#95
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:48:04 -0500, Califbill wrote: Cannon de Chelly is not that far from Las Vegas. They could go there to work. All those people taking care of elderly relatives? How do white people handle elderly relatives? You mean this place? http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...e%20chelly.jpg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...20dwelling.jpg There did not seem to be much employment there. They were taking $10 a head to walk down into the valley and when you got there there were indians selling beads and craft items. There was a drunk indian on the trail who was trying to shake down people for $50. We ran into someone who actually gave it to him. I told him to get the **** away from me and reported him to the indian police when we got up to the parking lot. They knew who he was. We actually hired a local through the visitor center and we drove in buddy's 4x4 Burb on a tour of the valley. Got a lot of info on the living conditions and attitudes. Our guides mom was one of the first native doctors, and his wife was a school teacher. He had little desire other than raise horses. |
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#96
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On Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:17:52 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. Since when is the truth "blather"? I agree some indians are not doing well but I referenced that in my note to Wayne last night. The indians who are doing the worst are the ones who lived on a government dole for the last 140 years or so. Welfare is a virtually inescapable trap for most who get caught up in it. . The left refuses to learn that lesson in spite of many examples over time. When the white man first came to these lands, *all* Indians were unemployed and lived in what we now call poverty. Seems that they've taken a few small steps forward. |
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#97
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On 10/25/13, 7:00 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:17:52 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. Since when is the truth "blather"? I agree some indians are not doing well but I referenced that in my note to Wayne last night. The indians who are doing the worst are the ones who lived on a government dole for the last 140 years or so. Welfare is a virtually inescapable trap for most who get caught up in it. . The left refuses to learn that lesson in spite of many examples over time. When the white man first came to these lands, *all* Indians were unemployed and lived in what we now call poverty. Seems that they've taken a few small steps forward. What an ignorant, prejudiced, dumbass statement. It's obvious you know nothing about Native American culture. No surprise. |
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#98
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On 10/24/2013 1:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article 181105531404328975.779795bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. "The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America. The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]" Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the 2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003- 2005 was $33,627.[12] With a poverty rate of 25%[12], they are right along with the big cities run by Democrats. Maybe they should start voting Republican and get their education system fixed. City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit, MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo, NY 29.9% 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0% 5. Miami, FL 26.9% 6. St. Louis, MO 26.8% 7. El Paso, TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1% 10. Newark, NJ 24.2% John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Typical narrow mindedness, take ONE statistic and ignore the rest..... Why are these welfare dependent places long term poverty centers? You would think with the government handing out help and money they could quickly rise up the economic ladder. Some do. You see, you are like a lot of others here, you think once someone is on welfare, etc, that they never get off, no one ever makes good, no one ever rises above it. Typical FOX rhetoric. No, typical progressive rhetoric. You are asking someone to give the benefit of the doubt to others, that you will not give me.. You still insisting I don't work, support my family etc, just because I had some issues I am working my way out of. Sounds like you are just another hypocritical progressive (sorry, redundant)... You don't support your family. A REAL man will do what it takes, like GET A JOB. |
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#99
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In article 1452683379404338769.242285bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 1818011097404330633.862971bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 181105531404328975.779795bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:53:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. "The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America. The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]" Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the 2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003- 2005 was $33,627.[12] With a poverty rate of 25%[12], they are right along with the big cities run by Democrats. Maybe they should start voting Republican and get their education system fixed. City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit, MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo, NY 29.9% 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0% 5. Miami, FL 26.9% 6. St. Louis, MO 26.8% 7. El Paso, TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1% 10. Newark, NJ 24.2% John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Typical narrow mindedness, take ONE statistic and ignore the rest..... Why are these welfare dependent places long term poverty centers? You would think with the government handing out help and money they could quickly rise up the economic ladder. Some do. You see, you are like a lot of others here, you think once someone is on welfare, etc, that they never get off, no one ever makes good, no one ever rises above it. Typical FOX rhetoric. How many for the trillions spent on the war on poverty? Sort of like the drug war. We have lost both. What is your suggestion? Throw more money at the problem? And if it is that, where should we get the mone. The place to start is to try and educate the ignorant on why racism, bigotry and general anti-trust is just that, blind ignorance. You can look at you and the right wingers here and just see by their bigotry that THEY certainly wouldn't trust nor hire someone who's been on assistance.... The funny thing is I bet you never hired anybody on welfare, or for that matter anybody for a job. I hired a lot of lower income people over the years. Lots were not very good workers, a few were. I and a partner owned a medium sized porta potty business years ago. So we dealt with both full time employees and casual labor. Plus I had a black fishing partner for years. So where is the racism, bigotry. Unfortunately my partner gave up fishing because of health reasons and has since passed away. Still see and help his wife and family. I am a fiscal conservative. Why do you want to spend the grand kids and great grand kids legacy? You want no pain from bad life choices? Want the kids to have the pain instead of you? If you are still working and worked for me and spent as much time as you do on the internet during the day, you would replaced! I work around 14 hours a day, dip****, if I take ten minutes to do what I want from time to time, that's well and fine. I produce and make money. I heard that bull**** about spending the grandkid's money when I was a little kid, same bull****, different time. |
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In article 1267485339404361387.373089bmckeenospam-
, says... John H wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:01:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 1426625823404328806.013374bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:58:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:48 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Those unpaid taxes are on the distributions to the members. That ends up being about $48,000 a year per member. Cite? You are right, I was wrong, it is up to $160,000 per member http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/ne...-casino-income The tax obligations of the tribe and its members are expected to soar because IRS examiners also are auditing the Miccosukee's gambling distributions for the years 2006-2010, when payouts to each member were as high as $160,000 annually. Not a bad living just for being an indian. That's a ****ing LIEN for taxes not paid!!!!! It has NOTHING to do with the notion (and lie) that each person in the tribe gets money!!!!! What part of "when pay outs to each member were as high as $160,000 annually." is so hard for you to understand? "Each" implies they all get a payout, which they do., The IRS lien was for $170 MILLION against the 600 members. The guy who hangs out and drinks with my drunken neighbor brags about his $48,000. I guess he doesn't have enough feathers in his cap to get the $160k. I am not sure this guy has ever actually worked and he is about 40. He may have worked at the scalping station on Tamiami trail a while tho. What a bunch of bigoted blather. I thought better of you than that. "The United States is home to 2.4 million Native Americans. In comparison to the rest of the population, this number is a very small amount (only .9%).[11] American Indians have historically lived in extreme poverty. With the rise of Indian gaming enterprises, the problem of poverty may have seemed to disappear. Yet, while Native Americans have begun to take more control of their tribal economies and have begun to improve situations, poverty on Indian Reservations is still a major issue. The U.S. Census in both 1990 and 2000 indicates that poverty has prevailed on reservations: to this day, Native Americans have the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the United States of America. The poverty rate of Native Americans is 25%.[12]" Incomes of Native Americans tend to be low, and unemployment rates are usually high. For example, the unemployment rate today on the Blackfoot Reservation in Montana is 69%. This is a shocking comparison to the national unemployment rate today, 9.8% (US Bureau of Labor) or even during the worst part of the Great Depression, 25%.[13] According to the 2000 Census, Indians living in Indian country have incomes that are less than half of the general U.S. population.[14] The US Census reports that the median income of households based on a three-year average from 2003- 2005 was $33,627.[12] Why don't the Indians get an education and jobs? Maybe it is government handout dependence. Sort of like Chicago inner city 76% male school dropout rate and a dependence on monthly government handouts. No incentive to work. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they'd rather live in squalor on the government's measly stipend that work. You do realize, don't you, that many have elderly relatives on the reservations, they themselves no nothing else but those reservations, and that reservations are typically far, far away from any sort of job centers, don't you? Is the same true for the welfare recipients in Chicago? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Cannon de Chelly is not that far from Las Vegas. They could go there to work. All those people taking care of elderly relatives? How do white people handle elderly relatives? bigoted and stupid as usual. |
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