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Rapprochement?
On 9/27/2013 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The fact is, every single woman in the US, citizen or not, has access to abortion on demand. |
Rapprochement?
On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful. Don't you see the news? As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in Kansas or some other backwards state. |
Rapprochement?
On 9/27/13 11:35 AM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/27/2013 11:32 AM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The fact is, every single woman in the US, citizen or not, has access to abortion on demand. The fact is, that is bull****. |
Rapprochement?
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:21:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. Thank God for the morning after pill. Lowers tremendously the need for killing babies. Isn't it still "killing babies"? If not, WHY not? One can live outside the womb, one is still a barely fertilized egg. Perhaps there is no difference to you. To me there is. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
Rapprochement?
On 9/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote: "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful. Don't you see the news? As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in Kansas or some other backwards state. Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move away from Texas. You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet they don't care. Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you think. There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are happy with that. If they aren't MOVE. You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required" conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy. Not only that but the Nanny States here are all bought and paid for.... One of Jessi's sponsors opened a business and didn't grease the right palms, couldn't put a sign in front on the road, for the opening. The lighted sign they put on the building was "put out" too.. While the restraunt that moved in under them has had a huge banner by the road for the last 8 weeks cause the owner is "connected" by dollars to the local zoning board.... Lib control is all about stealing money, period... |
Rapprochement?
On 9/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote: "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful. Don't you see the news? As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in Kansas or some other backwards state. Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move away from Texas. You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet they don't care. Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you think. There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are happy with that. If they aren't MOVE. You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required" conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy. Wow. Worst response ever. Many people live where they live because they don't have the ability to move somewhere else. The Supreme Court has ruled that abortion is legal. What the backwards states have done is game the system to shove the religious beliefs of their legislators and governors onto the people. |
Rapprochement?
In article ,
says... On 9/27/2013 11:32 AM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The fact is, every single woman in the US, citizen or not, has access to abortion on demand. Cite? |
Rapprochement?
In article ,
says... On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:21:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. Thank God for the morning after pill. Lowers tremendously the need for killing babies. Isn't it still "killing babies"? If not, WHY not? One can live outside the womb, one is still a barely fertilized egg. Perhaps there is no difference to you. To me there is. Of course, YOU get to decide which is murder and which is not.... So, aborting a fetus is okay with you if it is too young to survive medically unaided outside of the womb? Got it. |
Rapprochement?
In article ,
says... On 9/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:46:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/27/13 11:32 AM, wrote: "Efforts"? The question was whether the service was unavailable, not whether it was unpopular. BTW there are hospitals in DC that don't do "abortions". (although you can get a procedure that terminates a pregnancy) The "efforts" to shut down womens' health clinics is pretty successful. Don't you see the news? As for DC, there literally are dozens of good hospitals in our metro area. That some religiously sponsored hospitals, Catholic hospitals, for example, might not perform an abortion doesn't mean you have to drive far to find a hospital that will perform one. It's not like being in Kansas or some other backwards state. Nobody makes people live there. You don't need an exit visa to move away from Texas. You say you don't even want to drive through some states and I bet they don't care. Our states have far from uniform laws and customs. They are decided by the people who live there and if you don't, they don't care what you think. There are plenty on northeastern laws that are just as objectionable to Texans. Houston has no "zoning". The people who live there are happy with that. If they aren't MOVE. You can go to Chicago or New York where the nanny state will regulate every facet of your life from the gun you can own, the "required" conduit in your wall or the soft drinks you can't buy. Not only that but the Nanny States here are all bought and paid for.... One of Jessi's sponsors opened a business and didn't grease the right palms, couldn't put a sign in front on the road, for the opening. The lighted sign they put on the building was "put out" too.. While the restraunt that moved in under them has had a huge banner by the road for the last 8 weeks cause the owner is "connected" by dollars to the local zoning board.... Lib control is all about stealing money, period... Bull**** on top of insane bull****. |
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