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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. ---------------------------- Actually, I miss spoke. 21,620 is the number of terrorist *attacks* since 9/11. Most resulted in numerous deaths. |
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On 9/24/13 9:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. ---------------------------- Actually, I miss spoke. 21,620 is the number of terrorist *attacks* since 9/11. Most resulted in numerous deaths. Actually, it would be hard to classify some of the incidents on that list you referenced as "terrorist" attacks...when they seem more like murders or killings of individuals for personal or religious reasons. This one, for example: 2013.04.12 Afghanistan Shiberghan A man beheads his wife over 'moral crime'. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/24/13 9:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. ---------------------------- Actually, I miss spoke. 21,620 is the number of terrorist *attacks* since 9/11. Most resulted in numerous deaths. Actually, it would be hard to classify some of the incidents on that list you referenced as "terrorist" attacks...when they seem more like murders or killings of individuals for personal or religious reasons. This one, for example: 2013.04.12 Afghanistan Shiberghan A man beheads his wife over 'moral crime'. ----------------------------- Call it what you will but this mentality is on the rise. |
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On 9/24/2013 9:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/24/13 8:49 PM, amdx wrote: On 9/24/2013 3:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? What does rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations, Have to do with Iran becoming a reasonable nation? Mikek It is possible that the normalization of diplomatic relations will result in Iran behaving more rationally on the world scene, and will lessen its paranoia. I'm only saying it is possible. Any improvement in diplomatic relations between Iran and the United States would be a step in the right direction for us and for the other countries in the Middle East. Nothing like that will happen will happen if they don't stick some duck tape over Mrs. Satoro's little boys mouth. |
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On 9/24/2013 9:21 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. I'm surprised you haven't gone to join your heros in their quest to obliterate the infidel. But, alas, you don't have the balls to do anything but sit in your filthy basement apartment and peck away on your keyboard. |
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Exposing children to L'il Snot's lunacy should be considered child abuse.
It could scar them for life. |
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On 9/25/13 7:20 AM, True North wrote:
Exposing children to L'il Snot's lunacy should be considered child abuse. It could scar them for life. It surely teaches the kids unusual stuff, such as watching "daddy" Scotty discussing oral sex with his many guy friends here while teen-aged daughter watches. |
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says... On 9/24/2013 7:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:25:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:10 PM, wrote: Keep the dream alive I guess. The reality is I don't see it happening until the Palestinians get some justice. I don't know what *some justice* means for the Palestinians. I can certainly envision a large portion of what is called "the west bank" becoming a sovereign state called Palestine, but there are about a half million Israeli Jews living in that area. Perhaps the Jews should move back into sovereign Israel and the Palestinians living in sovereign Israel should move to the "new" state of Palestine, and with the Palestinians and their Arab state patrons building an economy that supports that state. With the sort of rampant terrorism among the Palestinians, I don't see any reason for an open border with Israel. Too draconian, perhaps. Another troubled area. I think that is the right idea. If you could give the Palestinians a credible country, they might even be able to coexist with Israel peacefully. With a little luck that would give the others a little less to bitch about. Personally I would like to see the UN seize all of the "holy lands" and put them under control of a coalition of the religious leaders from the 3 religions who think they are important. These would be operated as international religious parks, open to anyone who wanted to go there. **** that.. The Palestinians need to stop acting like cowards and stop killing people. period.. They have the whole middle east and they could have Jerusalem too if they weren't following a hateful religion... The "west bank" is nothing but a sewer for Islamist.. It should be scorched and built over.... or just push them all in the ocean. That would be the Christian way, right, pig? |
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