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Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? |
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On 9/24/2013 4:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? That would be a feather in O'Bama's turban. |
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On 9/24/2013 3:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? What does rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations, Have to do with Iran becoming a reasonable nation? Mikek |
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On 9/24/13 8:49 PM, amdx wrote:
On 9/24/2013 3:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? What does rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations, Have to do with Iran becoming a reasonable nation? Mikek It is possible that the normalization of diplomatic relations will result in Iran behaving more rationally on the world scene, and will lessen its paranoia. I'm only saying it is possible. Any improvement in diplomatic relations between Iran and the United States would be a step in the right direction for us and for the other countries in the Middle East. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. |
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On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. ---------------------------- Actually, I miss spoke. 21,620 is the number of terrorist *attacks* since 9/11. Most resulted in numerous deaths. |
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On 9/24/13 9:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. ---------------------------- Actually, I miss spoke. 21,620 is the number of terrorist *attacks* since 9/11. Most resulted in numerous deaths. Actually, it would be hard to classify some of the incidents on that list you referenced as "terrorist" attacks...when they seem more like murders or killings of individuals for personal or religious reasons. This one, for example: 2013.04.12 Afghanistan Shiberghan A man beheads his wife over 'moral crime'. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/24/13 9:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. ---------------------------- Actually, I miss spoke. 21,620 is the number of terrorist *attacks* since 9/11. Most resulted in numerous deaths. Actually, it would be hard to classify some of the incidents on that list you referenced as "terrorist" attacks...when they seem more like murders or killings of individuals for personal or religious reasons. This one, for example: 2013.04.12 Afghanistan Shiberghan A man beheads his wife over 'moral crime'. ----------------------------- Call it what you will but this mentality is on the rise. |
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On 9/24/2013 9:05 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/24/13 8:49 PM, amdx wrote: On 9/24/2013 3:22 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? What does rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations, Have to do with Iran becoming a reasonable nation? Mikek It is possible that the normalization of diplomatic relations will result in Iran behaving more rationally on the world scene, and will lessen its paranoia. I'm only saying it is possible. Any improvement in diplomatic relations between Iran and the United States would be a step in the right direction for us and for the other countries in the Middle East. Nothing like that will happen will happen if they don't stick some duck tape over Mrs. Satoro's little boys mouth. |
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On 9/24/2013 9:21 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. I'm surprised you haven't gone to join your heros in their quest to obliterate the infidel. But, alas, you don't have the balls to do anything but sit in your filthy basement apartment and peck away on your keyboard. |
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Exposing children to L'il Snot's lunacy should be considered child abuse.
It could scar them for life. |
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On 9/25/13 7:20 AM, True North wrote:
Exposing children to L'il Snot's lunacy should be considered child abuse. It could scar them for life. It surely teaches the kids unusual stuff, such as watching "daddy" Scotty discussing oral sex with his many guy friends here while teen-aged daughter watches. |
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On 9/24/13 9:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... Wouldn't it be nice if the United States and Iran had a rapprochement, a re-establishment of normal diplomatic relations and Iran rejoining the list of reasonable nations? There may be a chance for this. Let's hope so, eh? -------------------------------- We can hope and we can talk but I don't think it's likely. Iran isn't the only worry either. It's one of several countries where Islamic Fundamentalism and it's belief in the eradication of all who are not Muslim not only exists but is flourishing. It seems that there is little hope that the Fundamentalist movement is going to die away. It's been around since the 11th Century and is growing in strength with no indication of a willingness to adjust to or accept a peaceful, civilized position in the modern world. The "Fundamentalism" movement is similar to some Christian fundamentalist beliefs in the sense that the Koran (like the Bible in the Christian world) is interpreted literally. The difference is that Christian fundamentalism is on the decline while Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. The number of "Fundamentalists" who are responsible for terrorist attacks is growing proportionally. We tend to think terrorism started on 9/11, but there's a long history of attacks on US and other western countries' sovereign interests . It goes back to ancient times when religious Islamic zealots were trying to obtain a working knowledge of gunpowder from the Chinese. (The Chinese made fireworks, not weapons. The Islamic Fundamentalists had other ideas.) The risk today is the ability of any of these groups to acquire chemical or nuclear weapons. I don't think there's any question that eventually they will and they will be used. There have been 21,620 terrorist killings *since* 9/11. The incredible list just for 2013 is he http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm Pretty bad number, but a drop in the bucket compared to the 8,000+ firearms murders in this country every year since 9/11...12 times 8,000 = 96,000, and that's just murders by firearm. Our fellow Americans kill themselves at a much higher rate than terrorists kill others. There is always a price for freedom and liberty. |
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says... On 9/24/2013 7:11 PM, wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:25:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:10 PM, wrote: Keep the dream alive I guess. The reality is I don't see it happening until the Palestinians get some justice. I don't know what *some justice* means for the Palestinians. I can certainly envision a large portion of what is called "the west bank" becoming a sovereign state called Palestine, but there are about a half million Israeli Jews living in that area. Perhaps the Jews should move back into sovereign Israel and the Palestinians living in sovereign Israel should move to the "new" state of Palestine, and with the Palestinians and their Arab state patrons building an economy that supports that state. With the sort of rampant terrorism among the Palestinians, I don't see any reason for an open border with Israel. Too draconian, perhaps. Another troubled area. I think that is the right idea. If you could give the Palestinians a credible country, they might even be able to coexist with Israel peacefully. With a little luck that would give the others a little less to bitch about. Personally I would like to see the UN seize all of the "holy lands" and put them under control of a coalition of the religious leaders from the 3 religions who think they are important. These would be operated as international religious parks, open to anyone who wanted to go there. **** that.. The Palestinians need to stop acting like cowards and stop killing people. period.. They have the whole middle east and they could have Jerusalem too if they weren't following a hateful religion... The "west bank" is nothing but a sewer for Islamist.. It should be scorched and built over.... or just push them all in the ocean. That would be the Christian way, right, pig? |
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... |
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On 9/25/13 9:56 AM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... Well, if you think that about Muslims, you ought to become one, since you are the most hate-filled and intolerant little **** in this usenet group. Go for it. |
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says... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. I'll bet you have nothing to back that lie up, right? |
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says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. |
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? |
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On 9/25/2013 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. What a ****ing idiot.... Did some Church kid take your girlfriend away?? LOL! ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? |
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On 9/25/13 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? There are many ways self-described Christians in this country have made life miserable for people under their jurisdiction, through banning abortions, cutbacks in social services, cutbacks in assistance programs, et cetera. That's how in this country Christians are the religion of hate and intolerance. |
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On 9/26/13 2:06 AM, wrote: On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:53:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? There are many ways self-described Christians in this country have made life miserable for people under their jurisdiction, through banning abortions, cutbacks in social services, cutbacks in assistance programs, et cetera. That's how in this country Christians are the religion of hate and intolerance. I am calling a false equivalency here. It is like people who conflate anyone with Hitler. Are you planning to autograph a line of coat hangers? Is that what you used pre Roe to solve your problems? |
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Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. |
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says... On 9/25/2013 3:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. What a ****ing idiot.... Did some Church kid take your girlfriend away?? LOL! Hey, Jawbone, are you saying that Christians aren't hateful and intolerant as a religion? A good example is right here, the Christian intolerance of other beliefs and religions. |
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On 9/26/13 10:22 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:12:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:06 AM, wrote: There are many ways self-described Christians in this country have made life miserable for people under their jurisdiction, through banning abortions, cutbacks in social services, cutbacks in assistance programs, et cetera. That's how in this country Christians are the religion of hate and intolerance. I am calling a false equivalency here. It is like people who conflate anyone with Hitler. Are you planning to autograph a line of coat hangers? Wrong guy There are people who think abortion is a form of genocide but I am not one of them Again it is still a false equivalency. Coat hangers are not gas chambers Women who need abortions for serious health issues and can't get one because of regulations passed by "Christian" state governors and legislators, and who resort to shady abortionists or coat hangers might argue that with you. A vet who commits suicide because his "Christian" state governor or legislature decided the rich need a tax cut more than he needs a mental health clinic might argue that with you, if he could. A small child who is hungry because "Christian" lawmakers cut his family's food stamps might argue that with you. It's a matter of relativity. In some Islamic countries, the mass killing is done by religious terrorists. In this country, the mass killing is done by gun nuts. |
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. Well, what are your Christian examples of hate and intolerance that compare to the Muslim examples provided by Luddite? -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/26/2013 12:30 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. Well, what are your Christian examples of hate and intolerance that compare to the Muslim examples provided by Luddite? He just said that because he is in the party of Hate and Intolerance, just like the "war on women", it's a distraction from their own bad behavior... No tolerance, no moral core is why they can vote lock step and never once consider their constituents. |
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says... On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. Well, what are your Christian examples of hate and intolerance that compare to the Muslim examples provided by Luddite? Psssst, moron!! I said that before Luddite's post so it has nothing in common. But, if you must ask. http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/relviol.htm |
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says... On 9/26/2013 12:30 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. Well, what are your Christian examples of hate and intolerance that compare to the Muslim examples provided by Luddite? He just said that because he is in the party of Hate and Intolerance, just like the "war on women", it's a distraction from their own bad behavior... No tolerance, no moral core is why they can vote lock step and never once consider their constituents. I'm not in any party, dip****. |
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:00:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 9/25/2013 9:15 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:15:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:26:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/24/13 5:20 PM, wrote: We should be starting to get a grudging respect for the way they held down all of those crazy people in Eastern Europe and the caucuses for all of those cold war years. You really seem to have an affinity for tight-fisted police states. Is that part of being a conservative? When the alternative is genocide and never ending war, you bet your ass. Tito was a prick but the people who rose up after the Soviets left were worse. Is the Ayatollah better than the Shah? (for anyone but the most radical muslim fundamentalists). --------------------------- Some people are very critical of US installed or supported "puppet" leaders like the Shah, but there has been a long history of interest in attempting to control the growth and influence of religiously motivated Islamic Fundamentalists. It worked for many years but we are losing that fight and ability. The Shah may have been corrupt but he was predictable and had some semblance of control. The world is certainly not safer when religious zealots take over, especially those who are fundamentalists in the Islam teachings and beliefs. Remember, Harry is of the opinion that the religious zealots causing problems in the world are Christians. Yeah, while hundreds of Christian churches are being burned, 100,000 displaced in Egypt... South America, etc.. The Muslim religion of hate and intolerance is pushing this issue.... So is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. ----------------------------- When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. Well, what are your Christian examples of hate and intolerance that compare to the Muslim examples provided by Luddite? Psssst, moron!! I said that before Luddite's post so it has nothing in common. But, if you must ask. http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/relviol.htm Greg, et al, are correct....you don't read what you post as your 'proof'. From your cite: The religiously motivated bombings and attacks by terrorist Muslim groups are too numerous to be listed. Among the attacks with major loss of life a Continuing intermittently to the present time: Rockets indiscriminately launched against civilian targets in Israel. 2008: Mumbai (Bombay) terrorist attack (Three days; over 172 killed, over 307 injured). 2005: Delhi bombing (over 60 killed, over 180 injured). 2005: Sharm el-Sheikh bombing (64 killed). 2005: London Underground bombing (53 killed, nearly 700 injured). 2004: Beslan school occupation by Chechens (344 civilians killed, incl. 186 children). 2004: Madrid train bombing (191 killed, 1,460 injured). 2002: Bali nightclub bombing (202 killed, 300 injured). 2001: World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks (nearly 3,000 dead). 1998: U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania bombings (225 dead, over 400 injured). 1988: Lockerbie crash (killed 259 aboard the plane, 11 on the ground). 1983: U.S. Embassy in Beirut bombing (63 killed). 1983: Beirut U.S. military barracks suicide bombing (241 killed). 1983: Beirut French military barrack suicide bombing (58 killed). Terrorist attacks also occur within predominately Islamic countries -- generally between the Sunni and the Shia traditions of Islam, most often in Iraq and Pakistan. Here, this will help: http://tinyurl.com/o42at -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/26/13 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:01:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 10:42 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:37:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: It's a matter of relativity. In some Islamic countries, the mass killing is done by religious terrorists. In this country, the mass killing is done by gun nuts. Don't let scale get in the way of a good rant ... and the mass killings here are mostly done by muslims or atheists You've devolved into absurdity. George W. Bush, a self-proclaimed Christian, got more Americans killed in Iraq than the 9-11 Muslim terrorists killed here. And, of course, his false-flag invasion of Iraq killed more Muslims there than Muslim terrorists have killed here. You are just flailing in the air now. Do you really want to talk about war? How many Koreans did Truman kill? How many Japanese in the only nuke attack ever? LBJ in Vietnam? Clinton during the bombardment of Iraq? Bosnia? You were discussing "here," meaning, I assumed, in the present time, in relation to the 9/11 terrorism and what happened after it, in the Muslim terrorist death count against us...and I brought up what we did to "us" and to them., Perfectly relevant. |
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