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On 9/26/2013 7:02 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/26/2013 6:44 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:51:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Harry is blinded by hate. How can you possibly compare the "war in women" here to what goes on in any muslim country? Here it is defined as making abortion services a little hard to get in a few backward states. In Iran, you can be killed for showing a little leg and beaten for not wearing a scarf over your head. Holy ****, you and Scotty, go figure..... Where do you think a woman has more rights, Kabul or Dallas? Think a little before your knee jerks you into an answer. harry won't/can't answer.. he is just moving on to the next expression of hate and intolerance. Besides, everybody knows the real war on women is a democrat thing.. Clinton, Weener, and that creepy molester out there in California just for starters... |
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. -------------------------- Of course you didn't. But I did. You and the likes of Harry are trying to portray modern Christian teachings as being as intolerant and hateful as Islam Fundamentalism. I simply asked when you last remembered any Christian group doing the above. |
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On 9/26/13 7:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. -------------------------- Of course you didn't. But I did. You and the likes of Harry are trying to portray modern Christian teachings as being as intolerant and hateful as Islam Fundamentalism. I simply asked when you last remembered any Christian group doing the above. No, we're merely saying that many fundie christians are intolerant, hateful, mean-spirited and controlling. The beheadings will come later. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/26/13 3:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:20:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:52 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:34:45 -0400, skin a cat wrote: He just said that because he is in the party of Hate and Intolerance, just like the "war on women", it's a distraction from their own bad behavior... No tolerance, no moral core is why they can vote lock step and never once consider their constituents. Harry is blinded by hate. How can you possibly compare the "war in women" here to what goes on in any muslim country? Here it is defined as making abortion services a little hard to get in a few backward states. In Iran, you can be killed for showing a little leg and beaten for not wearing a scarf over your head. Hate of what? Yeah, not hate, but I really don't like it when, in this country, self-described "Christian" lawmakers work so hard to **** over the weak and the helpless. ... but I doubt it is anything like what is going on in the muslim community. I agree with you on most of your criticisms of the fundies (abortion, the drug war, gays) but I also understand that in the grand scheme of things, they are not the nazis or even the mullahs. The drug war is worse than any of the rest (murders, number of people in prison, corruption of the government etc) and we are not getting much pushback on that even from the left. The Nazis and the mullahs started small. Give the fundie Christians a chance, and they'll become what they want...the American taliban. ---------------------------------- And you accuse Scotty of being "psychotic" ? Harry, I think you've lost it. |
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On 9/26/13 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/26/13 3:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:20:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:52 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:34:45 -0400, skin a cat wrote: He just said that because he is in the party of Hate and Intolerance, just like the "war on women", it's a distraction from their own bad behavior... No tolerance, no moral core is why they can vote lock step and never once consider their constituents. Harry is blinded by hate. How can you possibly compare the "war in women" here to what goes on in any muslim country? Here it is defined as making abortion services a little hard to get in a few backward states. In Iran, you can be killed for showing a little leg and beaten for not wearing a scarf over your head. Hate of what? Yeah, not hate, but I really don't like it when, in this country, self-described "Christian" lawmakers work so hard to **** over the weak and the helpless. ... but I doubt it is anything like what is going on in the muslim community. I agree with you on most of your criticisms of the fundies (abortion, the drug war, gays) but I also understand that in the grand scheme of things, they are not the nazis or even the mullahs. The drug war is worse than any of the rest (murders, number of people in prison, corruption of the government etc) and we are not getting much pushback on that even from the left. The Nazis and the mullahs started small. Give the fundie Christians a chance, and they'll become what they want...the American taliban. ---------------------------------- And you accuse Scotty of being "psychotic" ? Harry, I think you've lost it. Oh? What makes you think they're going to "stop" when they make it impossible for women to get health care, abortions, equal pay? Give them an inch and they'll take everything. The fundies want their stamp on all of society. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/26/13 7:53 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. -------------------------- Of course you didn't. But I did. You and the likes of Harry are trying to portray modern Christian teachings as being as intolerant and hateful as Islam Fundamentalism. I simply asked when you last remembered any Christian group doing the above. No, we're merely saying that many fundie christians are intolerant, hateful, mean-spirited and controlling. The beheadings will come later. ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. |
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On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... |
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"skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... |
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On 9/26/2013 9:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... You are the one who trolled me out for no reason.. It's your folly I know, pretty sick really.... |
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On 9/26/2013 9:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... BTW dick.. Did you ever call the cops and make sure your drug addled relative never gets a gun like you suggested someone should do because I am a conservative? I bet you won't answer, or you will lie. Cause really, if you didn't it just proves you are a spoiled hypocrite, a coward who hasn't got the guts to do the right thing and protect your friends and family from the crazy ****er? |
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"skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 9:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... BTW dick.. Did you ever call the cops and make sure your drug addled relative never gets a gun like you suggested someone should do because I am a conservative? I bet you won't answer, or you will lie. Cause really, if you didn't it just proves you are a spoiled hypocrite, a coward who hasn't got the guts to do the right thing and protect your friends and family from the crazy ****er? ------------------------- You need to stop making **** up if you want any kind of meaningful conversation. I never suggested you were not qualified to have a gun because you are a conservative. I suggested that as an opinion based on the threats you make to people, using the Internet as a conduit for them. I don't "call the cops" unless there's an emergency on hand that I can't deal with. Minor crap like dealing with you and your mouth isn't an emergency and hardly worth thinking about, really. |
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On 9/26/2013 9:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 9:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... BTW dick.. Did you ever call the cops and make sure your drug addled relative never gets a gun like you suggested someone should do because I am a conservative? I bet you won't answer, or you will lie. Cause really, if you didn't it just proves you are a spoiled hypocrite, a coward who hasn't got the guts to do the right thing and protect your friends and family from the crazy ****er? ------------------------- You need to stop making **** up if you want any kind of meaningful conversation. I never suggested you were not qualified to have a gun because you are a conservative. I suggested that as an opinion based on the threats you make to people, using the Internet as a conduit for them. I don't "call the cops" unless there's an emergency on hand that I can't deal with. Minor crap like dealing with you and your mouth isn't an emergency and hardly worth thinking about, really. So, you were just being a loud mouth punk.. .I get it... |
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On 9/26/2013 10:21 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/26/2013 9:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 9:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... BTW dick.. Did you ever call the cops and make sure your drug addled relative never gets a gun like you suggested someone should do because I am a conservative? I bet you won't answer, or you will lie. Cause really, if you didn't it just proves you are a spoiled hypocrite, a coward who hasn't got the guts to do the right thing and protect your friends and family from the crazy ****er? ------------------------- You need to stop making **** up if you want any kind of meaningful conversation. I never suggested you were not qualified to have a gun because you are a conservative. I suggested that as an opinion based on the threats you make to people, using the Internet as a conduit for them. I don't "call the cops" unless there's an emergency on hand that I can't deal with. Minor crap like dealing with you and your mouth isn't an emergency and hardly worth thinking about, really. So, you were just being a loud mouth punk.. .I get it... This does bring up a whole new progressive issue... When progressives don't like the opposition or can't control someone, they often "threaten" to do whatever it takes to stifle that speaker, like "suggesting" that they or someone might should call the cops on someone and cause their family to not be able to protect themselves they way the hypocrite dem can.... It's a sick form or repression, perpetrated by ignorant control freaks... |
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On 9/26/2013 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/26/13 3:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:20:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:52 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:34:45 -0400, skin a cat wrote: He just said that because he is in the party of Hate and Intolerance, just like the "war on women", it's a distraction from their own bad behavior... No tolerance, no moral core is why they can vote lock step and never once consider their constituents. Harry is blinded by hate. How can you possibly compare the "war in women" here to what goes on in any muslim country? Here it is defined as making abortion services a little hard to get in a few backward states. In Iran, you can be killed for showing a little leg and beaten for not wearing a scarf over your head. Hate of what? Yeah, not hate, but I really don't like it when, in this country, self-described "Christian" lawmakers work so hard to **** over the weak and the helpless. ... but I doubt it is anything like what is going on in the muslim community. I agree with you on most of your criticisms of the fundies (abortion, the drug war, gays) but I also understand that in the grand scheme of things, they are not the nazis or even the mullahs. The drug war is worse than any of the rest (murders, number of people in prison, corruption of the government etc) and we are not getting much pushback on that even from the left. The Nazis and the mullahs started small. Give the fundie Christians a chance, and they'll become what they want...the American taliban. ---------------------------------- And you accuse Scotty of being "psychotic" ? Harry, I think you've lost it. Harry is so fare out in cuckoo land that he'll probably never again see a sane moment. |
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On 9/26/13 10:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:12:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:06 AM, wrote: There are many ways self-described Christians in this country have made life miserable for people under their jurisdiction, through banning abortions, cutbacks in social services, cutbacks in assistance programs, et cetera. That's how in this country Christians are the religion of hate and intolerance. I am calling a false equivalency here. It is like people who conflate anyone with Hitler. Are you planning to autograph a line of coat hangers? Wrong guy There are people who think abortion is a form of genocide but I am not one of them Again it is still a false equivalency. Coat hangers are not gas chambers Women who need abortions for serious health issues and can't get one because of regulations passed by "Christian" state governors and legislators, and who resort to shady abortionists or coat hangers might argue that with you. A vet who commits suicide because his "Christian" state governor or legislature decided the rich need a tax cut more than he needs a mental health clinic might argue that with you, if he could. A small child who is hungry because "Christian" lawmakers cut his family's food stamps might argue that with you. It's a matter of relativity. In some Islamic countries, the mass killing is done by religious terrorists. In this country, the mass killing is done by gun nuts. What are the serious healht issues that women need abortions for? |
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On 9/26/13 10:42 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:37:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: It's a matter of relativity. In some Islamic countries, the mass killing is done by religious terrorists. In this country, the mass killing is done by gun nuts. Don't let scale get in the way of a good rant ... and the mass killings here are mostly done by muslims or atheists You've devolved into absurdity. George W. Bush, a self-proclaimed Christian, got more Americans killed in Iraq than the 9-11 Muslim terrorists killed here. And, of course, his false-flag invasion of Iraq killed more Muslims there than Muslim terrorists have killed here. Are you a self-proclaimed Budhist, atheist or non-aligned whatever you want to be called? At some point in each persons life they "self-proclaim" their religion and many do it multiple times. |
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On 9/26/2013 10:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 9/26/13 10:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:12:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:06 AM, wrote: There are many ways self-described Christians in this country have made life miserable for people under their jurisdiction, through banning abortions, cutbacks in social services, cutbacks in assistance programs, et cetera. That's how in this country Christians are the religion of hate and intolerance. I am calling a false equivalency here. It is like people who conflate anyone with Hitler. Are you planning to autograph a line of coat hangers? Wrong guy There are people who think abortion is a form of genocide but I am not one of them Again it is still a false equivalency. Coat hangers are not gas chambers Women who need abortions for serious health issues and can't get one because of regulations passed by "Christian" state governors and legislators, and who resort to shady abortionists or coat hangers might argue that with you. A vet who commits suicide because his "Christian" state governor or legislature decided the rich need a tax cut more than he needs a mental health clinic might argue that with you, if he could. A small child who is hungry because "Christian" lawmakers cut his family's food stamps might argue that with you. It's a matter of relativity. In some Islamic countries, the mass killing is done by religious terrorists. In this country, the mass killing is done by gun nuts. What are the serious healht issues that women need abortions for? Harry said the exact thing a few months back, and was asked the same question as to what state this was happening in and the conclusion was that it wasn't... Just to save you the time... |
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On 9/26/13 10:41 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/26/2013 10:35 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 9/26/13 10:22 AM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:12:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 2:06 AM, wrote: There are many ways self-described Christians in this country have made life miserable for people under their jurisdiction, through banning abortions, cutbacks in social services, cutbacks in assistance programs, et cetera. That's how in this country Christians are the religion of hate and intolerance. I am calling a false equivalency here. It is like people who conflate anyone with Hitler. Are you planning to autograph a line of coat hangers? Wrong guy There are people who think abortion is a form of genocide but I am not one of them Again it is still a false equivalency. Coat hangers are not gas chambers Women who need abortions for serious health issues and can't get one because of regulations passed by "Christian" state governors and legislators, and who resort to shady abortionists or coat hangers might argue that with you. A vet who commits suicide because his "Christian" state governor or legislature decided the rich need a tax cut more than he needs a mental health clinic might argue that with you, if he could. A small child who is hungry because "Christian" lawmakers cut his family's food stamps might argue that with you. It's a matter of relativity. In some Islamic countries, the mass killing is done by religious terrorists. In this country, the mass killing is done by gun nuts. What are the serious healht issues that women need abortions for? Harry said the exact thing a few months back, and was asked the same question as to what state this was happening in and the conclusion was that it wasn't... Just to save you the time... It's been all over the real news, dumfoch. |
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:10:27 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:50:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 8:37 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:18:14 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: That is a bog yawn, sort of like calling a national; root for the Redskins day. Nobody was required to do anything The redskins are non-sectarian. Jesus is a religious symbol. "Redskins" is a racist name. That doesn't bother you more than "Jesus"? Completely different annoyance. ... but both are the same, irrational annoyances from people who are making mountains out of mole hills. Gotta admit, that was pretty well done. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/26/13 4:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:52:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The Nazis and the mullahs started small. Give the fundie Christians a chance, and they'll become what they want...the American taliban. I think you are over reacting. On the other hand if you simply limit the power of the government all of that is impossible. Those groups needed an authoritarian government to enforce their abuses. You mean, like the Tea Bagger Party? No like the liberals/progressives/Democrats. |
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. Thank God for the morning after pill. Lowers tremendously the need for killing babies. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 9/27/2013 8:14 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/26/13 11:11 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:54:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The fundies have already all but eliminated access to abortions in many states, they've cut back on women's health clinics, they've cut back on needed social services for the poor, and about a dozen other things, all so the wealthy have lower taxes. They're not just talking about doing these things...they are doing them,. Really? You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? In some cases, in Texas and in other states, there are now requirements that doctors who perform abortions have "admitting privileges" at area hospitals, but the hospitals won't grant these privileges to doctors who perform abortions. Many of these states had few clinics to begin with, and now the states are trying to shut down those that remain. It's the cutback in other social services, though, where the state governors are looking for ways to pass along more tax cuts to the wealthy. Kansas is the prime example. Thank God for the morning after pill. Lowers tremendously the need for killing babies. So, the bottom line is there is no state where any woman over the age of 14 can go and get an abortion on demand.... Got it... harry krause lied.... got it... |
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On 9/27/13 8:23 AM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/27/2013 8:14 AM, John H wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:00:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: You haven't heard about the efforts in many Republican governed states to shut down many, if not all, womens' health service clinics and all the other social services cutbacks? So, the bottom line is there is no state where any woman over the age of 14 can go and get an abortion on demand.... Got it... harry krause lied.... got it... Say what, stupid? |
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Luddite" says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , "Mr. Luddite" says... When was the last time a Christian beheaded someone simply because the victim was not Christian? When was the last time a Christian blew himself up in a crowded marketplace, taking a few dozen non-Christians with him? When was the last time a Christian flew airliners into buildings, killing thousands of innocent people? When was the last time a group of Christians declared death to all non-Christians unless they converted? What I said was "so is the Christian religion of hate and intolerance. I made know mention of specifics such as beheadings. -------------------------- Of course you didn't. But I did. You and the likes of Harry are trying to portray modern Christian teachings as being as intolerant and hateful as Islam Fundamentalism. I simply asked when you last remembered any Christian group doing the above. No, I'm not. I never, ever said that Christians were as "hateful" as Islam Fundies. BUT, here is an example of Christian "Fundamentalism". http://www.godhatesfags.com/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/w...aptist-church/ |
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Luddite" says... "skin a cat" wrote in message ... On 9/26/2013 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: ----------------------- You've convinced me. You've lost it. You sound just like Scott. Eat **** punk... ------------------------ Wow. Spoken like a 12 year old. Oh, wait .... forgot who it came from .... Hey, he told you the reason he posts such crazy ****, it's his jawbone that makes him do it!! |
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