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says... On 9/4/13 2:08 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 9/4/2013 12:31 PM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:16:05 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have seen it on the beltway. In fact a guy I know wiped out on one of these "buckles" on a Sportster and I ended up fixing the bike for him. Not trying to indict John... just wondering about 5", seems even outside Boston that would be addressed somehow... They closed the beltway a lane at a time and addressed it after several serious accidents and stories on TV about it. Surprised more people didn't die.. I know if I hit a 5 inch edge with my Jeep, at anything over say, 30 miles an hour, there is no way I would maintain control... Knowing what I know about cars, I can say with almost certainty that that five inch "curb" at speed would collapse the front end of my jeep... I imagine the bike you fixed must have busted in half up near the neck... I suspect the boys here who are talking about 5" curbs across an entire highway are the same boys who tried to convince their wives that 2" was 5". I've seen many expansion joints in concrete paved highways that have heaved or settled that much panel to panel. |
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#193
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On 9/4/13 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:22:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/4/13 12:16 PM, wrote: Every business in the US gets them too (even your little hobby). That is not the same as a direct cash infusion like we give passenger rail. A subsidy by any other name would not smell as sweet, eh? Wrong guy to bitch to about that. I am a flat tax guy. Not the issue under discussion. |
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#194
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On 9/4/13 3:40 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:41:09 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/4/13 12:33 PM, wrote: Avis makes a profit from my rental. CSX is not even covering their costs from Amtrak and that is actually tax money from people who never ride a train. Costs? What costs? Certainly not additional wear and tear, since a short passenger train weighs only a fraction of what a freight train ways, and there are only a couple of passenger trains a day between here and Florida. CSX's approach to track repair seems to be to repair it when a freight train derails. OK you may be right Amorak takes our tax money and gives it to CSX for the use of their track. How is that any more than another subsidy from people who never ride a train to the few who do? Our entire governmental system is based upon the many helping the few. Why should train travel be any different? Why should we be subsidizing the cost of flood insurance for those who purchase it? |
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#195
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On 9/4/2013 3:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 14:08:21 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 9/4/2013 12:31 PM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:16:05 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: I have seen it on the beltway. In fact a guy I know wiped out on one of these "buckles" on a Sportster and I ended up fixing the bike for him. Not trying to indict John... just wondering about 5", seems even outside Boston that would be addressed somehow... They closed the beltway a lane at a time and addressed it after several serious accidents and stories on TV about it. Surprised more people didn't die.. I know if I hit a 5 inch edge with my Jeep, at anything over say, 30 miles an hour, there is no way I would maintain control... Knowing what I know about cars, I can say with almost certainty that that five inch "curb" at speed would collapse the front end of my jeep... I imagine the bike you fixed must have busted in half up near the neck... Fortunately it wasn't on the leading edge side. It was a ski ramp. 11 guys made it, one guy, a fairly new rider, didn't. He squirreled out on the landing and went into the swale. Broken leg and a beat up bike. Yeah, nuts... I happened to be in Hartford today from 84 West to 91 South, to Route 9 South... Through Hartford I encountered only one entrance ramp where there were 2-3 inch wide and deep groove between the lanes where the merge was... Other than that, most of the roads around here are passable, at least at the posted speed limit if you keep your eyes open.... The worst stretch I have encountered in the North East consistantly is a stretch of 91 n/s through Springfield Mass. It's a bout a two mile stretch of elevated highway that is always just a ****pile.. I usually have to slow down to 45 or so with the trailer on to not bust something. The thing is I don't know why it's so patched and rutted... There is no infrastructure running under it or anything, seems they could just lay down one smooth layer once and be done with it... But it's like it's under construction with no signs or workers, for the last 20 years that I remember.... |
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#196
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... Because they weren't intended to be interstate bridges. ------------------------------ A bridge on *Interstate Route 95" is not an interstate bridge? Whoooosh...... I'll try again. In cities, where interstates were extended, added, spurs, etc. were placed long after the original interstate system was in place. A lot of these add ons were aligned to take advantage of in-place roadways including bridges, tunnels etc. These in-place infrastructures were not intended to carry the traffic that interstate travel imposes. ----------------------------- Sorry. I don't buy that at all. As pointed out in a previous post, a roadway or bridge that is "added" to the federal interstate roadway system must be built or upgraded to the specifications contained in DOT and specifically the Federal Highway Commission requirements. The requirements and specs today are much more stringent than they were back in the 50's and certainly more stringent than those for non-federal, local roads. Go ahead and type your four-letter word starting with "C". I've never used Scotty's word, where do you get that idea? Also, I posted an example of a bridge that was re-purposed and certainly does not meet federal DOT guidelines. Where did you get the idea that they must be upgraded to meet those guidelines? ------------------------ About 30 seconds of proficient Googling will yield the answer to your question. |
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#197
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#198
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/4/13 12:16 PM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:09:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/4/13 10:59 AM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:15:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Let's not forget the depreciation allowances airlines get for buying equipment. These are subsidies. What business doesn't get depreciation allowances? You didn't answer but I bet you took an accelerated depreciation allowance on your new printer. If you didn't, fire your accountant. You folks are really stretching to find these mythical subsidies but the fact is the passenger is paying more than the government gives them back. That is far from true in rail where the ticket price doesn't even cover the cost of running the train. There's nothing mythical about depreciation allowances, and they are subsidies. Period. Every business in the US gets them too (even your little hobby). That is not the same as a direct cash infusion like we give passenger rail. A subsidy by any other name would not smell as sweet, eh? ------------------------- I don't understand what you are talking about. I go out and buy a brand new piece of equipment for my business .... call it a fork truck. I pay the full value of the fork truck to the manufacturer. I use the fork truck in the business. Over the years it depreciates in value. I use the depreciation tables as to it's value when filing taxes. How the hell is *that* a subsidy? |
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#199
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On 9/4/13 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/4/13 10:59 AM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:15:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Let's not forget the depreciation allowances airlines get for buying equipment. These are subsidies. What business doesn't get depreciation allowances? You didn't answer but I bet you took an accelerated depreciation allowance on your new printer. If you didn't, fire your accountant. You folks are really stretching to find these mythical subsidies but the fact is the passenger is paying more than the government gives them back. That is far from true in rail where the ticket price doesn't even cover the cost of running the train. There's nothing mythical about depreciation allowances, and they are subsidies. Period. ---------------------------- My business made significant investments in manufacturing and engineering equipment. They were depreciated as allowed under tax laws every year. I never knew they were a "subsidy". Same sort of subsidy as homeowners get on their mortgage interest. |
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#200
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On 9/4/13 4:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/4/13 12:16 PM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:09:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 9/4/13 10:59 AM, wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:15:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Let's not forget the depreciation allowances airlines get for buying equipment. These are subsidies. What business doesn't get depreciation allowances? You didn't answer but I bet you took an accelerated depreciation allowance on your new printer. If you didn't, fire your accountant. You folks are really stretching to find these mythical subsidies but the fact is the passenger is paying more than the government gives them back. That is far from true in rail where the ticket price doesn't even cover the cost of running the train. There's nothing mythical about depreciation allowances, and they are subsidies. Period. Every business in the US gets them too (even your little hobby). That is not the same as a direct cash infusion like we give passenger rail. A subsidy by any other name would not smell as sweet, eh? ------------------------- I don't understand what you are talking about. I go out and buy a brand new piece of equipment for my business .... call it a fork truck. I pay the full value of the fork truck to the manufacturer. I use the fork truck in the business. Over the years it depreciates in value. I use the depreciation tables as to it's value when filing taxes. How the hell is *that* a subsidy? Special tax breaks for depreciation are tax expenditures because they are government spending programs that give out tax breaks instead of direct payments. |
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