....when sanctimonious Republican assholes don't live up to the standards
they want to shove down everyone else's throat.

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays
Jul 29, 2013


According to papers signed by an Allegheny County judge, the former
Republican presidential candidate cited irreconcilable differences with
his wife of 23 years.

The move comes as a shock to the family and friends of the couple, who
have seven children together and always projected an air of marital
bliss. But in an interview outside the courthouse with local television
station WPAV, Santorum said that he had no choice.

"Unfortunately the homosexuals have ruined my marriage," he explained to
reporter Bruce Nolan. "Every year more and more of them get married, and
every year the relationship with my wife gets worse.

"Ever since the Supreme Court struck down DOMA, we've been sleeping in
separate rooms. It's like I don't even know who she is anymore. This is
what the gays want: to destroy the institution of marriage. We won't be
the last."

Square Peg, Round Hole

According to the filing, the pair have agreed to split all assets
equally and share joint custody of their children. His wife will keep
the family home and automobiles, while Santorum will keep most of the
couple's wardrobe.

Several seasoned divorce attorneys say that such an amicable financial
settlement is unusual. But in an exclusive interview Santorum explains
money was never really the issue.

"The real problem was in the bedroom," he says. "My wife kept
complaining that I talked too much about gay sex while we were making love.

"I was just trying to explain how all the anal and oral things they do
are filthy and disgusting compared to our intercourse. But apparently my
wife didn't appreciate hearing about bears and twinks while I was inside
of her."

Santorum says he's ready to move on and has already started leasing a
bachelor pad in the Logan Circle neighborhood of Washington, D.C.

"Single life is going to be hard," he laments. "There aren't a lot of
women interested in an aging father of seven. I might have to get
creative about who I date."

Santorum served as Pennsylvania's senator from 1995 to 2007. He
unsuccessfully pursued the Republican nomination for president in 2012,
placing second behind Mitt Romney.

- - -

Great gag. Love it.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

....when sanctimonious Republican assholes don't live up to the
standards
they want to shove down everyone else's throat.

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays
Jul 29, 2013


Great gag. Love it.

-----------------------------------------------

I guess you had to be there to appreciate the humor.

It must really drive you nuts to watch all the "sanctimonious
Republican assholes" in so many states and at the federal level
exercise almost complete control over what legislation is passed and
what isn't. Even with a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate
and, for the first two years, a Democratic House, the sanctimonious
Republican assholes have played the game of political maneuvering and
have pretty much won every legislative contest. Really doesn't say
much for your party.

On 7/29/13 9:20 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

...when sanctimonious Republican assholes don't live up to the standards
they want to shove down everyone else's throat.

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays
Jul 29, 2013


Great gag. Love it.

-----------------------------------------------

I guess you had to be there to appreciate the humor.

It must really drive you nuts to watch all the "sanctimonious Republican
assholes" in so many states and at the federal level exercise almost
complete control over what legislation is passed and what isn't. Even
with a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate and, for the first two
years, a Democratic House, the sanctimonious Republican assholes have
played the game of political maneuvering and have pretty much won every
legislative contest. Really doesn't say much for your party.

I find it fascinating how the demagoguery and hate spewing of the
Republican taliban is destroying this country and turning everyone but
the rich into serfs who only exist to further enrich the rich. The
Republican taliban is waging an economic and societal war on women,
students, middle income earners, minorities, gays, everyone except upper
income white men. They're taking away the vote, they want to do away
with the social safety net entirely. At some point, the citizenry will
wake up and either shoot the Republican taliban perpetrators or vote
them out of office. I probably won't be around to see it, but it will be
an interesting revolution.

The Dems simply don't hate as much, and they still care about this
country. The Republicans only care about power and their wallets.

On 7/29/13 9:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:37:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays

Google Santorum.



Google "joke."

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/29/13 9:20 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

...when sanctimonious Republican assholes don't live up to the
standards
they want to shove down everyone else's throat.

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays
Jul 29, 2013


Great gag. Love it.

-----------------------------------------------

I guess you had to be there to appreciate the humor.

It must really drive you nuts to watch all the "sanctimonious
Republican
assholes" in so many states and at the federal level exercise
almost
complete control over what legislation is passed and what isn't.
Even
with a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate and, for the first
two
years, a Democratic House, the sanctimonious Republican assholes
have
played the game of political maneuvering and have pretty much won
every
legislative contest. Really doesn't say much for your party.

I find it fascinating how the demagoguery and hate spewing of the
Republican taliban is destroying this country and turning everyone but
the rich into serfs who only exist to further enrich the rich. The
Republican taliban is waging an economic and societal war on women,
students, middle income earners, minorities, gays, everyone except
upper
income white men. They're taking away the vote, they want to do away
with the social safety net entirely. At some point, the citizenry will
wake up and either shoot the Republican taliban perpetrators or vote
them out of office. I probably won't be around to see it, but it will
be
an interesting revolution.

The Dems simply don't hate as much, and they still care about this
country. The Republicans only care about power and their wallets.

-------------------------------

I see it differently, recognizing that there are extremists
represented on each side who I disregard.

I see the conservative side being the "tough love" guardians. They
care just as passionately as the Democrats but see the solution to
economic problems as having to face the reality that simply throwing
borrowed money at problems will never solve them. To the contrary, it
will cause more dependence on the government which at some point won't
be able to sustain the very help that people become more dependent
upon.

The Democrats' over protective plan is that more spending, more
government programs, more federal aid will somehow make everyone self
sufficient someday. History proves otherwise. Since the 1960's
spending for federal entitlement programs has risen by over 500
percent. We are rapidly approaching the point when it will become
unsustainable. Then what happens? That economic collapse will make
the last five years look like the "good old days".

Americans have to stop thinking about what the government can do for
them and start thinking about what they can do for themselves.
Sounds cruel to a Democratic Socialist like yourself, but it's
reality.

On 7/29/13 10:32 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/29/13 9:20 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

...when sanctimonious Republican assholes don't live up to the standards
they want to shove down everyone else's throat.

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays
Jul 29, 2013


Great gag. Love it.

-----------------------------------------------

I guess you had to be there to appreciate the humor.

It must really drive you nuts to watch all the "sanctimonious Republican
assholes" in so many states and at the federal level exercise almost
complete control over what legislation is passed and what isn't. Even
with a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate and, for the first two
years, a Democratic House, the sanctimonious Republican assholes have
played the game of political maneuvering and have pretty much won every
legislative contest. Really doesn't say much for your party.

I find it fascinating how the demagoguery and hate spewing of the
Republican taliban is destroying this country and turning everyone but
the rich into serfs who only exist to further enrich the rich. The
Republican taliban is waging an economic and societal war on women,
students, middle income earners, minorities, gays, everyone except upper
income white men. They're taking away the vote, they want to do away
with the social safety net entirely. At some point, the citizenry will
wake up and either shoot the Republican taliban perpetrators or vote
them out of office. I probably won't be around to see it, but it will be
an interesting revolution.

The Dems simply don't hate as much, and they still care about this
country. The Republicans only care about power and their wallets.

-------------------------------

I see it differently, recognizing that there are extremists represented
on each side who I disregard.

I see the conservative side being the "tough love" guardians. They care
just as passionately as the Democrats but see the solution to economic
problems as having to face the reality that simply throwing borrowed
money at problems will never solve them. To the contrary, it will cause
more dependence on the government which at some point won't be able to
sustain the very help that people become more dependent upon.

The Democrats' over protective plan is that more spending, more
government programs, more federal aid will somehow make everyone self
sufficient someday. History proves otherwise. Since the 1960's
spending for federal entitlement programs has risen by over 500
percent. We are rapidly approaching the point when it will become
unsustainable. Then what happens? That economic collapse will make
the last five years look like the "good old days".

Americans have to stop thinking about what the government can do for
them and start thinking about what they can do for themselves. Sounds
cruel to a Democratic Socialist like yourself, but it's reality.






Have you noticed in recent months that when the two of us discuss
something political in nature, I for the most part refrain from making
it personal about you, yet after a short while, if I don't agree with
your side of the argument, you start making personal remarks about me?

I am indeed a Democrat, a registered Democrat, in fact, and although I
have a number of actual Socialists as friends and colleagues, I am no
more a Socialist than you are a plutocrat, and I don't call you one.
I do admire some aspects of modern European socialism, however, but I
have no admiration for a plutocracy which, basically, is what the United
States is devolving into.

Middle income lifestyles are disappearing, jobs are becoming more and
more short term, workers are becoming disposable, and many families
workers and multiple jobs still cannot make it in this country because
pay has fallen so far behind the cost of living. And what is your
expectation for these people who cannot move forward through no fault of
their own? That they live in crappy housing, that they eat only fast
food, that their kids aren't decently clothed, that they don't have
access to good and convenient health care, that their hopes for a
reasonable retirement are disappearing, all so the rich can continue to
suck the wealth out of the country and make these disparities even worse?

On 7/30/13 12:25 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:00:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/29/13 9:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:37:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Rick Santorum Files for Divorce, Blames Gays

Google Santorum.



Google "joke."

I know, it is Dan Savage's joke. I am surprised it still rates the top
hit.
I guess it simply indicates how insignificant Santorum is these days.
Only guys like you even care.



I don't "care" about Santorum. He's just another of the endless number
of right-wing lunatics and morons who lead the GOP, and it is a bit of
fun to point out their craziness. I'm really hoping Michele Bachmann
makes another run for the GOP presidential nomination, along with
loonytarian Rand Paul, and a half dozen other nutcases, like the high IQ
governor of Texas and, of course, Mr. 9 9 9, Herman "Weiner" Cain.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


What do you propose to make up for the lack of jobs, the lack of jobs
with benefits, the lack of jobs with decent pay, the lack of health
care, the lack of affordable higher or vocational education, the lack
of
the ability to put enough aside for a retirement? Soylent Green?

===================

If we keep going the way we are heading the fictitious "Soylent
Corporation" will be replaced by the very real federal government, at
least until it collapses.

I think we need to balance government investments in both social
welfare and industry areas with accountability for results.
If it doesn't work, don't continue to invest the taxpayer's money in
it. That's the problem with entitlement programs. Once started, it's
almost impossible to end them, regardless of how ineffective they are.

Most importantly, any government subsidized program must have an
"exit" plan so to speak. We simply can't afford to pile entitlements
on top of entitlements that robs the recipients of any incentive to
work to improve their own station in life. Unfortunately, with few
exceptions, that's how it is today and is heading to get even worse.

On 7/30/13 8:04 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


What do you propose to make up for the lack of jobs, the lack of jobs
with benefits, the lack of jobs with decent pay, the lack of health
care, the lack of affordable higher or vocational education, the lack of
the ability to put enough aside for a retirement? Soylent Green?

===================

If we keep going the way we are heading the fictitious "Soylent
Corporation" will be replaced by the very real federal government, at
least until it collapses.

I think we need to balance government investments in both social welfare
and industry areas with accountability for results.
If it doesn't work, don't continue to invest the taxpayer's money in
it. That's the problem with entitlement programs. Once started, it's
almost impossible to end them, regardless of how ineffective they are.

Most importantly, any government subsidized program must have an "exit"
plan so to speak. We simply can't afford to pile entitlements on top of
entitlements that robs the recipients of any incentive to work to
improve their own station in life. Unfortunately, with few exceptions,
that's how it is today and is heading to get even worse.



Let's keep this simple, just for the sake of keeping it simple.

Posit, that an increasing number of employers are paying wages that are
relatively flat, that they are cutting way back on benefits such as
health care insurance and a defined retirement program, that jobs
themselves are more disposable than ever and new jobs are hard to find,
to the point that workers, faced with these circumstances, can barely
support themselves and their families, even with two paychecks.

So, in the absence of employer supplied healthcare and an employer
supplied pension and in the face of lousy wages and poor employment
possibilities, what is the equitable solution for the average middle
income or lower income worker? Being dropped off by the side of the road
to die is not something my "socialist" heart is willing to accept.

Seriously. If the private sector isn't supplying, if the workers can't
make enough to support themselves with food, housing, clothing,
education, health care and a retirement, despite their best efforts,
where do you see society going?

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/30/13 8:04 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


What do you propose to make up for the lack of jobs, the lack of
jobs
with benefits, the lack of jobs with decent pay, the lack of health
care, the lack of affordable higher or vocational education, the
lack of
the ability to put enough aside for a retirement? Soylent Green?

===================

If we keep going the way we are heading the fictitious "Soylent
Corporation" will be replaced by the very real federal government,
at
least until it collapses.

I think we need to balance government investments in both social
welfare
and industry areas with accountability for results.
If it doesn't work, don't continue to invest the taxpayer's money
in
it. That's the problem with entitlement programs. Once started,
it's
almost impossible to end them, regardless of how ineffective they
are.

Most importantly, any government subsidized program must have an
"exit"
plan so to speak. We simply can't afford to pile entitlements on top
of
entitlements that robs the recipients of any incentive to work to
improve their own station in life. Unfortunately, with few
exceptions,
that's how it is today and is heading to get even worse.



Let's keep this simple, just for the sake of keeping it simple.

Posit, that an increasing number of employers are paying wages that
are
relatively flat, that they are cutting way back on benefits such as
health care insurance and a defined retirement program, that jobs
themselves are more disposable than ever and new jobs are hard to
find,
to the point that workers, faced with these circumstances, can barely
support themselves and their families, even with two paychecks.

So, in the absence of employer supplied healthcare and an employer
supplied pension and in the face of lousy wages and poor employment
possibilities, what is the equitable solution for the average middle
income or lower income worker? Being dropped off by the side of the
road
to die is not something my "socialist" heart is willing to accept.

Seriously. If the private sector isn't supplying, if the workers can't
make enough to support themselves with food, housing, clothing,
education, health care and a retirement, despite their best efforts,
where do you see society going?

------------------------------------------

I am surrounded by young people who are living with those challenges
right now. Although apprehensive, most are doing fine despite the
economy because they have taken steps to seek opportunities or
otherwise improve their financial situations. Remember, if the
"real" unemployment rate is around 16 percent as some economists
believe, it still means that roughly 84 percent of the working
population is employed.

I can't argue the big business angle with you because I just don't
think businesses have a unique social welfare responsibility that
exceeds basic supply and demand. They exist to make a profit or they
don't exist period. You disagree, probably because of your close
ties to union activities.
It's interesting that although I personally don't think businesses
should be straddled with providing health care plans, overall they
have historically been more successful at it than the federal
government.

We've just emerged from an unprecedented period of government financed
bailouts, unemployment extensions and federal stimulus programs.
Has it worked? Barely. The federal reserve is still pumping
borrowed $$ into the "economy" to the tune of $85 billion a month.

Again, I'll repeat that I believe everyone should have an opportunity
and if they need help in getting that opportunity or taking advantage
of one, I am all for it. But the "help" should be only that, and not
a method of living.