In article ,
says...

On 7/29/2013 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:59:45 -0700, jps wrote:

Australia is always the poster child for gun control laws but the
reality is the trend line for murders did not change in any
perceptible way when they banned and confiscated most of the guns.
Certainly less people were killed by guns but they still found a way.

But no more mass murders, to date.

Mass killings are such an insignificant part of the murder rate that
they get lost in the noise, statistically. It is just what the TV
chooses to report.
They have a "Newtown" in the black community every week and it barely
makes the paper.
The only time a dead black guy makes the news is if a white guy kills
him. Then it is a national disaster.


You forgot one thing... Let me "fix" your statement..

The only time a dead black guy makes the news is if a white guy kills
him and the democratic party needs a huge distraction leading up to an
election. Then it is a national disaster.

There you go... I fixed it.

You couldn't fix a bicycle, you narrow minded twit.

On 7/29/13 5:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:50:32 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 7/29/2013 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:59:45 -0700, jps wrote:

Australia is always the poster child for gun control laws but the
reality is the trend line for murders did not change in any
perceptible way when they banned and confiscated most of the guns.
Certainly less people were killed by guns but they still found a way.

But no more mass murders, to date.

Mass killings are such an insignificant part of the murder rate that
they get lost in the noise, statistically. It is just what the TV
chooses to report.
They have a "Newtown" in the black community every week and it barely
makes the paper.
The only time a dead black guy makes the news is if a white guy kills
him. Then it is a national disaster.


You forgot one thing... Let me "fix" your statement..

The only time a dead black guy makes the news is if a white guy kills
him and the democratic party needs a huge distraction leading up to an
election. Then it is a national disaster.

There you go... I fixed it.

There was barely a ripple when the Bohannon brothers were shot by a
black guy.
It had nothing to do with the "Free Zimmerman" bumper sticker on their
truck. They swear.


Maybe it was because the brothers and their shooter knew each other, and
it involved the sale of drugs or robbery related to drugs.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:23:27 -0400, wrote:

In light of those statistics, shall we be expecting you to dispose of
those guns you own?

===

Harry is special, just ask him. He needs his guns but no one else
does.

On 7/29/13 7:23 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:43:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


An Overview of Gun Control in US, Canada and Globally

The United States stands out among developed countries for being home to
approximately one third of all firearms in the world and weak controls
on access to firearms.

The rate of gun ownership in the US is much higher than most comparable
countries, with approximately 42.8% of American household owning
firearms, including 17.6% owning handguns in 2005. The developed country
with the next highest ownership rate was Finland, where 37.9% of the
population owning firearms, though only 6.3% owned handguns. Switzerland
was the country with the second highest handgun ownership, at 10.3%,
with an overall rate of 28.6% for all firearms. In Canada, 15.5% of
households own firearms, with 2.9% owning handguns.

Where there are more guns, more deaths usually follow. The death rate
by firearms in the United States was 10.2 per 100,000 people in 2009,
for a total of 31,347 deaths. This is nearly as many as in car
accidents, where 34,485 Americans died that same year. The American rate
of death by firearms is nearly twice as high as the nearest other
developed country, again Finland, with a rate of 4.47 in 2008. In
Canada, the rate was 2.5 in 2009, while the UK had only 0.25 in 2011.

Some studies have examined the link between gun ownership rates and
firearm death rates, with one comparing rates in Canada, the US,
England/Wales and Australia. It concluded that 92 percent of the
variance in death rates was explained by differences in access to
firearms. The rates of death from firearms in Canada in the United
States have also been studied, with one of the most well-known analyses
being a comparison of Seattle, Washington and Vancouver, British
Columbia that showed that despite similarities in size and demographics,
the rate of firearm homicide is considerably different as a result of
the differences in the availability of firearms in the two countries.

Like with overall firearm deaths, the consequences of permissive access
to firearms can also be seen in homicide and crime statistics. The US
homicide rate (per 100,000) committed without guns is only slightly
higher (1.4 times) than the Canadian rate. However the rate of homicide
with guns in the U.S. is 6 times higher than that seen in Canada and the
rate of homicide with handguns in the U.S. (2.41 per 100,000) is 7 times
higher than the Canadian rate (0.33 per 100,000). The pattern with
robbery is similar. In the United States, there were more than 408,000
robberies in 2009, 36 percent of them with firearms, with a rate of 55
per 100,000. In Canada, in contrast, there were 32,200 robberies, 14
percent of them with firearms, for a rate of 13 per 100,000. Yet the
rates of robberies without firearms are roughly the same in the two
countries. (Click on this link for table and graphs)


http://tinyurl.com/mpm4fa6

In light of those statistics, shall we be expecting you to dispose of
those guns you own?


1. I don't take my firearms out of the house unless I am transporting
them to a formal or informal firing range, or to a gunsmith.

2. Unlike PsychoScotty here, I'm not psychotic. Further, unlike several
posters here who live in Virginia and Florida, my home state is very
strict about firearms transactions and performs serious background
checks. I'm one of a small number of Maryland residents with a concealed
carry permit and while it didn't require much effort on my part to get
it, the background check was serious and severe.

3. Unlike Herring and several others here, I don't hate anyone because
they are black, white, "other," christian, jewish, muslim, buddhist,
"other," or male or female, or old or young, not do I make threatening
remarks about politicians. It is true I'd like to see Dick Cheney in
prison, but I know that is not going to happen and I'm not upset about it.

4. Unlike several posters here, I'm not afraid to drive or walk around
unarmed. I don't fear people who aren't the same as I am in terms of
race, religion, gender, country of origin, et cetera. I do have a couple
of shotguns in the house available to ward off psychotic or home
invaders. I don't walk through my neighborhood armed and looking for a
teenager to shoot.

5. I've sold by legal, documented means most of my small collection of
firearms. I have remaining two pistols, one of which is a target pistol,
two shotguns, and one small caliber scoped long rifle for target shooting.

As always, have a really nice day.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:24:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/29/13 7:23 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:43:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


An Overview of Gun Control in US, Canada and Globally

The United States stands out among developed countries for being home to
approximately one third of all firearms in the world and weak controls
on access to firearms.

The rate of gun ownership in the US is much higher than most comparable
countries, with approximately 42.8% of American household owning
firearms, including 17.6% owning handguns in 2005. The developed country
with the next highest ownership rate was Finland, where 37.9% of the
population owning firearms, though only 6.3% owned handguns. Switzerland
was the country with the second highest handgun ownership, at 10.3%,
with an overall rate of 28.6% for all firearms. In Canada, 15.5% of
households own firearms, with 2.9% owning handguns.

Where there are more guns, more deaths usually follow. The death rate
by firearms in the United States was 10.2 per 100,000 people in 2009,
for a total of 31,347 deaths. This is nearly as many as in car
accidents, where 34,485 Americans died that same year. The American rate
of death by firearms is nearly twice as high as the nearest other
developed country, again Finland, with a rate of 4.47 in 2008. In
Canada, the rate was 2.5 in 2009, while the UK had only 0.25 in 2011.

Some studies have examined the link between gun ownership rates and
firearm death rates, with one comparing rates in Canada, the US,
England/Wales and Australia. It concluded that 92 percent of the
variance in death rates was explained by differences in access to
firearms. The rates of death from firearms in Canada in the United
States have also been studied, with one of the most well-known analyses
being a comparison of Seattle, Washington and Vancouver, British
Columbia that showed that despite similarities in size and demographics,
the rate of firearm homicide is considerably different as a result of
the differences in the availability of firearms in the two countries.

Like with overall firearm deaths, the consequences of permissive access
to firearms can also be seen in homicide and crime statistics. The US
homicide rate (per 100,000) committed without guns is only slightly
higher (1.4 times) than the Canadian rate. However the rate of homicide
with guns in the U.S. is 6 times higher than that seen in Canada and the
rate of homicide with handguns in the U.S. (2.41 per 100,000) is 7 times
higher than the Canadian rate (0.33 per 100,000). The pattern with
robbery is similar. In the United States, there were more than 408,000
robberies in 2009, 36 percent of them with firearms, with a rate of 55
per 100,000. In Canada, in contrast, there were 32,200 robberies, 14
percent of them with firearms, for a rate of 13 per 100,000. Yet the
rates of robberies without firearms are roughly the same in the two
countries. (Click on this link for table and graphs)


http://tinyurl.com/mpm4fa6

In light of those statistics, shall we be expecting you to dispose of
those guns you own?


1. I don't take my firearms out of the house unless I am transporting
them to a formal or informal firing range, or to a gunsmith.

2. Unlike PsychoScotty here, I'm not psychotic. Further, unlike several
posters here who live in Virginia and Florida, my home state is very
strict about firearms transactions and performs serious background
checks. I'm one of a small number of Maryland residents with a concealed
carry permit and while it didn't require much effort on my part to get
it, the background check was serious and severe.

3. Unlike Herring and several others here, I don't hate anyone because
they are black, white, "other," christian, jewish, muslim, buddhist,
"other," or male or female, or old or young, not do I make threatening
remarks about politicians. It is true I'd like to see Dick Cheney in
prison, but I know that is not going to happen and I'm not upset about it.

4. Unlike several posters here, I'm not afraid to drive or walk around
unarmed. I don't fear people who aren't the same as I am in terms of
race, religion, gender, country of origin, et cetera. I do have a couple
of shotguns in the house available to ward off psychotic or home
invaders. I don't walk through my neighborhood armed and looking for a
teenager to shoot.

5. I've sold by legal, documented means most of my small collection of
firearms. I have remaining two pistols, one of which is a target pistol,
two shotguns, and one small caliber scoped long rifle for target shooting.

As always, have a really nice day.


You are truly worthy of emulation - not to mention adoration. No wonder Donnie and Kevin think so
highly of you.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:24:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm one of a small number of Maryland residents with a concealed
carry permit and while it didn't require much effort on my part to
get
it, the background check was serious and severe.


---------------------------

What made your background check "serious and severe"?

To the best of my knowledge, the same national FBI data base is used
in all states that require a background check and often a state
criminal background check is required as well. In fact, Massachusetts
requires both checks every time you purchase a gun in addition to when
you initially apply for a permit.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:24:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/29/13 7:23 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:43:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


An Overview of Gun Control in US, Canada and Globally

The United States stands out among developed countries for being home to
approximately one third of all firearms in the world and weak controls
on access to firearms.

The rate of gun ownership in the US is much higher than most comparable
countries, with approximately 42.8% of American household owning
firearms, including 17.6% owning handguns in 2005. The developed country
with the next highest ownership rate was Finland, where 37.9% of the
population owning firearms, though only 6.3% owned handguns. Switzerland
was the country with the second highest handgun ownership, at 10.3%,
with an overall rate of 28.6% for all firearms. In Canada, 15.5% of
households own firearms, with 2.9% owning handguns.

Where there are more guns, more deaths usually follow. The death rate
by firearms in the United States was 10.2 per 100,000 people in 2009,
for a total of 31,347 deaths. This is nearly as many as in car
accidents, where 34,485 Americans died that same year. The American rate
of death by firearms is nearly twice as high as the nearest other
developed country, again Finland, with a rate of 4.47 in 2008. In
Canada, the rate was 2.5 in 2009, while the UK had only 0.25 in 2011.

Some studies have examined the link between gun ownership rates and
firearm death rates, with one comparing rates in Canada, the US,
England/Wales and Australia. It concluded that 92 percent of the
variance in death rates was explained by differences in access to
firearms. The rates of death from firearms in Canada in the United
States have also been studied, with one of the most well-known analyses
being a comparison of Seattle, Washington and Vancouver, British
Columbia that showed that despite similarities in size and demographics,
the rate of firearm homicide is considerably different as a result of
the differences in the availability of firearms in the two countries.

Like with overall firearm deaths, the consequences of permissive access
to firearms can also be seen in homicide and crime statistics. The US
homicide rate (per 100,000) committed without guns is only slightly
higher (1.4 times) than the Canadian rate. However the rate of homicide
with guns in the U.S. is 6 times higher than that seen in Canada and the
rate of homicide with handguns in the U.S. (2.41 per 100,000) is 7 times
higher than the Canadian rate (0.33 per 100,000). The pattern with
robbery is similar. In the United States, there were more than 408,000
robberies in 2009, 36 percent of them with firearms, with a rate of 55
per 100,000. In Canada, in contrast, there were 32,200 robberies, 14
percent of them with firearms, for a rate of 13 per 100,000. Yet the
rates of robberies without firearms are roughly the same in the two
countries. (Click on this link for table and graphs)


http://tinyurl.com/mpm4fa6

In light of those statistics, shall we be expecting you to dispose of
those guns you own?


1. I don't take my firearms out of the house unless I am transporting
them to a formal or informal firing range, or to a gunsmith.

2. Unlike PsychoScotty here, I'm not psychotic. Further, unlike several
posters here who live in Virginia and Florida, my home state is very
strict about firearms transactions and performs serious background
checks. I'm one of a small number of Maryland residents with a concealed
carry permit and while it didn't require much effort on my part to get
it, the background check was serious and severe.

3. Unlike Herring and several others here, I don't hate anyone because
they are black, white, "other," christian, jewish, muslim, buddhist,
"other," or male or female, or old or young, not do I make threatening
remarks about politicians. It is true I'd like to see Dick Cheney in
prison, but I know that is not going to happen and I'm not upset about it.

4. Unlike several posters here, I'm not afraid to drive or walk around
unarmed. I don't fear people who aren't the same as I am in terms of
race, religion, gender, country of origin, et cetera. I do have a couple
of shotguns in the house available to ward off psychotic or home
invaders. I don't walk through my neighborhood armed and looking for a
teenager to shoot.

5. I've sold by legal, documented means most of my small collection of
firearms. I have remaining two pistols, one of which is a target pistol,
two shotguns, and one small caliber scoped long rifle for target shooting.

As always, have a really nice day.


You are truly worthy of emulation - not to mention adoration. No wonder Donnie and Kevin think so
highly of you.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Who the **** do you think YOU are, trying to tell others who they think
highly of, asshat? You are a bigoted, hateful, piece of trash.

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:23:35 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:24:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/29/13 7:23 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:43:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


An Overview of Gun Control in US, Canada and Globally

The United States stands out among developed countries for being home to
approximately one third of all firearms in the world and weak controls
on access to firearms.

The rate of gun ownership in the US is much higher than most comparable
countries, with approximately 42.8% of American household owning
firearms, including 17.6% owning handguns in 2005. The developed country
with the next highest ownership rate was Finland, where 37.9% of the
population owning firearms, though only 6.3% owned handguns. Switzerland
was the country with the second highest handgun ownership, at 10.3%,
with an overall rate of 28.6% for all firearms. In Canada, 15.5% of
households own firearms, with 2.9% owning handguns.

Where there are more guns, more deaths usually follow. The death rate
by firearms in the United States was 10.2 per 100,000 people in 2009,
for a total of 31,347 deaths. This is nearly as many as in car
accidents, where 34,485 Americans died that same year. The American rate
of death by firearms is nearly twice as high as the nearest other
developed country, again Finland, with a rate of 4.47 in 2008. In
Canada, the rate was 2.5 in 2009, while the UK had only 0.25 in 2011.

Some studies have examined the link between gun ownership rates and
firearm death rates, with one comparing rates in Canada, the US,
England/Wales and Australia. It concluded that 92 percent of the
variance in death rates was explained by differences in access to
firearms. The rates of death from firearms in Canada in the United
States have also been studied, with one of the most well-known analyses
being a comparison of Seattle, Washington and Vancouver, British
Columbia that showed that despite similarities in size and demographics,
the rate of firearm homicide is considerably different as a result of
the differences in the availability of firearms in the two countries.

Like with overall firearm deaths, the consequences of permissive access
to firearms can also be seen in homicide and crime statistics. The US
homicide rate (per 100,000) committed without guns is only slightly
higher (1.4 times) than the Canadian rate. However the rate of homicide
with guns in the U.S. is 6 times higher than that seen in Canada and the
rate of homicide with handguns in the U.S. (2.41 per 100,000) is 7 times
higher than the Canadian rate (0.33 per 100,000). The pattern with
robbery is similar. In the United States, there were more than 408,000
robberies in 2009, 36 percent of them with firearms, with a rate of 55
per 100,000. In Canada, in contrast, there were 32,200 robberies, 14
percent of them with firearms, for a rate of 13 per 100,000. Yet the
rates of robberies without firearms are roughly the same in the two
countries. (Click on this link for table and graphs)


http://tinyurl.com/mpm4fa6

In light of those statistics, shall we be expecting you to dispose of
those guns you own?


1. I don't take my firearms out of the house unless I am transporting
them to a formal or informal firing range, or to a gunsmith.

2. Unlike PsychoScotty here, I'm not psychotic. Further, unlike several
posters here who live in Virginia and Florida, my home state is very
strict about firearms transactions and performs serious background
checks. I'm one of a small number of Maryland residents with a concealed
carry permit and while it didn't require much effort on my part to get
it, the background check was serious and severe.

3. Unlike Herring and several others here, I don't hate anyone because
they are black, white, "other," christian, jewish, muslim, buddhist,
"other," or male or female, or old or young, not do I make threatening
remarks about politicians. It is true I'd like to see Dick Cheney in
prison, but I know that is not going to happen and I'm not upset about it.

4. Unlike several posters here, I'm not afraid to drive or walk around
unarmed. I don't fear people who aren't the same as I am in terms of
race, religion, gender, country of origin, et cetera. I do have a couple
of shotguns in the house available to ward off psychotic or home
invaders. I don't walk through my neighborhood armed and looking for a
teenager to shoot.

5. I've sold by legal, documented means most of my small collection of
firearms. I have remaining two pistols, one of which is a target pistol,
two shotguns, and one small caliber scoped long rifle for target shooting.

As always, have a really nice day.


You are truly worthy of emulation - not to mention adoration. No wonder Donnie and Kevin think so
highly of you.

John (Gun Nut) H.

Who the **** do you think YOU are, trying to tell others who they think
highly of, asshat? You are a bigoted, hateful, piece of trash.

Did you re-read my post about backing the trailer over the curb? Is that what put you in such a foul
mood?

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:24:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

1. I don't take my firearms out of the house unless I am transporting
them to a formal or informal firing range, or to a gunsmith.

Don't you have a Maryland CCP? Don't you carry a firearm to "protect" yourself from the mass
of evil "reicht-wing rectal fissues" who have allegedly threatened you which enable you to
obtain said CCP?

2. Unlike PsychoScotty here, I'm not psychotic. Further, unlike several
posters here who live in Virginia and Florida, my home state is very
strict about firearms transactions and performs serious background
checks. I'm one of a small number of Maryland residents with a concealed
carry permit and while it didn't require much effort on my part to get
it, the background check was serious and severe.

You just stated that you only take your firearms out of the house to go "to a formal or
informal firing range, or to a gunsmith." This can only lead us to believe that you acquired
your CCP under false pretenses.

3. Unlike Herring and several others here, I don't hate anyone because
they are black, white, "other," christian, jewish, muslim, buddhist,
"other," or male or female, or old or young, not do I make threatening
remarks about politicians. It is true I'd like to see Dick Cheney in
prison, but I know that is not going to happen and I'm not upset about it.

You are a threat to yourself and your own family.


4. Unlike several posters here, I'm not afraid to drive or walk around
unarmed. I don't fear people who aren't the same as I am in terms of
race, religion, gender, country of origin, et cetera. I do have a couple
of shotguns in the house available to ward off psychotic or home
invaders. I don't walk through my neighborhood armed and looking for a
teenager to shoot.

So, you acquired your CCP under false pretenses.


5. I've sold by legal, documented means most of my small collection of
firearms. I have remaining two pistols, one of which is a target pistol,
two shotguns, and one small caliber scoped long rifle for target shooting.

Was there a court decision or other legal action that has required you to divest of your
firearms due you being a hazard to those living in your home or other family members?


As always, have a really nice day.