In article ,
says...

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

So, if your daughter is walking home from the store?
?and a man she does not know who is in a car starts following her
and gets out of the car and chases her?

If she stops running and knees him, or pepper sprays him, or trips him...

...She is the aggressor, and he is justified in shooting her in
"self defense."

You left out the "get on top of and continue to pummel after the
threat was abated" part.
Cite?

In article ,
says...

On 7/22/2013 10:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

So, if your daughter is walking home from the store?
?and a man she does not know who is in a car starts following her
and gets out of the car and chases her?

If she stops running and knees him, or pepper sprays him, or trips him...

...She is the aggressor, and he is justified in shooting her in
"self defense."

You left out the "get on top of and continue to pummel after the
threat was abated" part.

There is also absolutely zero evidence that Zimmerman actually
confronted Martin in the first place.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Cause if you listen to his own text words days before the event, it's
obvious he was looking for another cracker to kick the **** out of. He
had texted earlier about beating the **** out of someone and only
breaking their nose, and "the next guy won't get off so easy"... Martin
was out tiger hunting, and the tiger ate him... period.

Guess you've never been a teenager before.....

On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:54:14 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:22:35 -0400, wrote:

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?

===

Speaking of which, how would you like to be confronted by her in a
dark alley?

You have disappointed me.

===

Sorry but I find her scary in any color you could imagine.

On 7/23/13 10:17 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:54:14 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:22:35 -0400, wrote:

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?

===

Speaking of which, how would you like to be confronted by her in a
dark alley?

You have disappointed me.

===

Sorry but I find her scary in any color you could imagine.



W'hine backpaddling his canoe:

http://tinyurl.com/myjybbf

What's scary about her, W'hine?

On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards
them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

-------------------------------------------

A vigilante doesn't call the police to report a crime or suspicious
activity.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante isn't in direct communications with a police dispatcher.
Zimmerman was.

A vigilante wouldn't respond to the dispatcher's question "Where did
he go?" with an attempt to try to find out.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante would have shot Martin as soon as he saw him.
Zimmerman didn't. He shot him in self defense while getting his ass
kicked.

On 7/23/2013 12:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

If there was a suspicious looking character lurking about in my
neighborhood, I'd call 911 and try to keep an eye on him till the cops
arrived. Seems like the normal thing to do.

On 7/23/13 12:25 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/23/13 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:33:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/22/13 10:22 PM, wrote:
.

BTW if martin really felt threatened, why didn't he hang up on the
girl and dial 911?


Maybe because some black folks are reluctant to call the police,
especially in a town with a long history of racism towards them...you
know, a town like Sanford.

OK so Zimmerman called the police and Martin decided to take the law
into his own hands, 'nuff said.

Who is the vigilante again?



Zimmerman was whining about how "they always get away," so rather than
wait for the police, he took the law into his own hands.

"Vigilante justice" is rationalized by the idea that adequate legal
mechanisms for criminal punishment are either nonexistent or
insufficient. Vigilantes typically see government as ineffective in
enforcing the law; and such individuals often presume to justify their
actions as fulfillment of the wishes of "the community".

So, in response to your question, the vigilante was Zimmerman.

Have nice day.

-------------------------------------------

A vigilante doesn't call the police to report a crime or suspicious
activity.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante isn't in direct communications with a police dispatcher.
Zimmerman was.

A vigilante wouldn't respond to the dispatcher's question "Where did he
go?" with an attempt to try to find out.
Zimmerman did.

A vigilante would have shot Martin as soon as he saw him.
Zimmerman didn't. He shot him in self defense while getting his ass
kicked.




Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

----------------------------------------

That's the liberal media and activist version of what transpired.
Obviously you have jumped on the bandwagon and embraced it.

Unfortunately, it just isn't borne out with the facts, including the
transcribed initial telephone call Zimmerman made to the dispatcher.

Zimmerman didn't call the police to report that a black kid was
walking through his neighborhood. Read the transcripts of the phone
call.
They aren't speculation or "made up".

On 7/23/13 3:24 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



Zimmerman called the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. He also stated the police never showed up
ontime to catch his "suspect," so he took the law into his own hands.

----------------------------------------

That's the liberal media and activist version of what transpired.
Obviously you have jumped on the bandwagon and embraced it.

Unfortunately, it just isn't borne out with the facts, including the
transcribed initial telephone call Zimmerman made to the dispatcher.

Zimmerman didn't call the police to report that a black kid was walking
through his neighborhood. Read the transcripts of the phone call.
They aren't speculation or "made up".



Yeah, he didn't say "black kid." BFD. He saw a kid walking through the
neighborhood, the kid was black, and Zimmerman therefore thought he was
about to commit a crime.