On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:43:21 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.

Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was
no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was.

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Martin's mother, with some help from Sharpton and a professional
publicist, stage managed all of that post shooting news coverage. It
was no accident that the media was showing pictures of a happy go
lucky little kid. That's what was in their press kit.

On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

===

It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess
is not.

On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

===

It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess
is not.


It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically,
force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the
person you confronted.

On 7/3/2013 2:01 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:43:21 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture
of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older
picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest.

Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was
no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was.

===

Martin's mother, with some help from Sharpton and a professional
publicist, stage managed all of that post shooting news coverage. It
was no accident that the media was showing pictures of a happy go
lucky little kid. That's what was in their press kit.


On the outside anyway, the parents have been a class act so far in my
opinion...

On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

===

It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess
is not.


It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically,
force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the
person you confronted.

===

That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to prefer,
but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al
Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered.

On 7/3/13 3:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

===

It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess
is not.


It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically,
force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the
person you confronted.

===

That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to prefer,
but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al
Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered.


The stand your ground defense isn't being used in the Zimmerman murder
case.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 3:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours,
Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder
of
their son.

===

It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My
guess
is not.


It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically,
force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the
person you confronted.

===

That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to
prefer,
but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al
Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered.


The stand your ground defense isn't being used in the Zimmerman murder
case.

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True, he waived his right to a stand your ground defense to be
determined without benefit of a jury. He retains the right to
exercise it as a defense at a later date, according to his attorneys.
It was considered a strategic move by his attorneys to avoid having it
rejected by a judge.

However, when it all comes down to it, the only difference is that a
jury will decide if the shooting and killing of Martin was justified
as self defense as opposed to a judge making the determination.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I
don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of
their son.

===

It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess
is not.


It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically,
force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the
person you confronted.

===

That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to prefer,
but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al
Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered.

Harry's description sounds like your standard strong arm robbery.

I just heard something I had not heard before regarding the police
interrogation of George Zimmerman.

According to Lisa Bloom, an attorney who was just on Chris Matthew's
show, one of the police interrogations included a "bluff" directed to
Zimmerman.
He was told that they located a video of the entire altercation
between him and Martin, presumably from a security camera within the
gated community.

According to Bloom, Zimmerman's reaction was "elation" and he thanked
God there was a video record of the event.

Lisa Bloom, btw, is of the opinion that Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd
degree murder. However, she acknowledged that "if" the events
happened as described by Zimmerman and he was having his head beaten
on the concrete sidewalk, then yes, she would agree that an acquittal
based on self defense would be appropriate.

But the question remains. If this "bluff" was made and Zimmerman
indeed reacted as he did ..... why?

Lisa Bloom says it either means he is telling the truth or is a great
actor.

In article , says...

I just heard something I had not heard before regarding the police
interrogation of George Zimmerman.

According to Lisa Bloom, an attorney who was just on Chris Matthew's
show, one of the police interrogations included a "bluff" directed to
Zimmerman.
He was told that they located a video of the entire altercation
between him and Martin, presumably from a security camera within the
gated community.

According to Bloom, Zimmerman's reaction was "elation" and he thanked
God there was a video record of the event.

Lisa Bloom, btw, is of the opinion that Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd
degree murder. However, she acknowledged that "if" the events
happened as described by Zimmerman and he was having his head beaten
on the concrete sidewalk, then yes, she would agree that an acquittal
based on self defense would be appropriate.

But the question remains. If this "bluff" was made and Zimmerman
indeed reacted as he did ..... why?

Lisa Bloom says it either means he is telling the truth or is a great
actor.

With that piece of informaiton Zimmerman should never have been charged.