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"True North" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:21:15 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
I am hooked on watching the Zimmerman trial. I have it streaming
on

my computer, so it isn't interrupted by TV commercials and am also

monitoring the video on the left leaning MSNBC which occasionally

breaks for commercials and the viewer misses much of the testimony
by

witnesses.



The State called a doctor who is the chief medical examiner for the

area that the Zimmerman event took place. She examined the photos
of

his head injuries, along with the report of the PA at the medical

clinic who treated him. She testified that Zimmerman's injuries
were

"very minor" (repeating it at every opportunity) and, in her

opinion, resulted from one blow to the nose and one, maybe two head

bangings on the concrete walkway. This conflicts with Zimmerman's

account of the incident.



She went out of her way to minimize the injuries and insisted they

were the result of minimal blows with not much force.



During this lengthy direct examination by the State, MSNBC didn't

interrupt a single time for a commercial.



Then came the cross examination by the defense. The defense
attorney

started picking her testimony apart questioning why she was so sure

the injuries were from so few blows. She became hostile
occasionally

and the attorney made good use of her frustration with him. She

finally had to admit that it was indeed "possible" that Zimmerman
had

been hit not just once or twice, but multiple times. She did so
with

a hostile attitude.



MSNBC had at least two lengthy station breaks during this cross

examination. The viewers missed a good portion of the cross

examination. Could that just be coincidence?



So now the court is in a 15 minute break. The MSNBC crew are all

excitedly discussing this "conflicting expert testimony" and about

how the doc said Zimmerman only got hit a couple of times.



You gotta be kidding me.

Seems like the whole country is lined up on one side or the other.
It's starting to resemble this newsgroup...or at least it will when
the verdict is handed in.

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Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am
fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the
presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible
attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes
away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see what
their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if
their coverage is equally biased the other way.

There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives, too.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am
fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the
presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible
attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes
away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see
what
their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if
their coverage is equally biased the other way.

There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives,
too.

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You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a
reasonable doubt.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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In article ,

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Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am

fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the

presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible

attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes

away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see

what

their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if

their coverage is equally biased the other way.



There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives,

too.



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You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a

reasonable doubt.

But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial.

On 7/3/13 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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In article ,

says...







Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am

fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the

presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible

attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes

away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see

what

their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if

their coverage is equally biased the other way.



There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives,

too.



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You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a

reasonable doubt.

But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial.


The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter.
I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted
from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in
Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury
is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't
matter.
I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that
resulted
from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in
Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury
is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.

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Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that
might indicate otherwise.
Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's
one shy of half the country.

Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems.

On 7/3/13 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter.
I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted
from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in
Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury
is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.

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Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that
might indicate otherwise.
Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one
shy of half the country.

Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems.


It is unfortunate that so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws allow a
gun-toter to stalk an unarmed person, confront that person, precipitate
an argument, and then shoot and kill that person.

That is precisely what Zimmerman did, eh.

Had Zimmerman not started the fight, Martin and his can of tea and bag
of skittles would have made it safely to where he was visiting or
staying with his dad.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/3/13 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't
matter.
I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that
resulted
from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place
in
Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the
jury
is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.

-------------------------------------

Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that
might indicate otherwise.
Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's
one
shy of half the country.

Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems.


It is unfortunate that so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws allow a
gun-toter to stalk an unarmed person, confront that person,
precipitate
an argument, and then shoot and kill that person.

That is precisely what Zimmerman did, eh.


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The "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country specifically forbid any
action as you have described. What actually happened in the
Zimmerman case will be determined by a jury after giving consideration
to all the evidence presented in the trial.

On 7/3/2013 6:34 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Had Zimmerman not started the fight, Martin and his can of tea and bag
of skittles would have made it safely to where he was visiting or
staying with his dad.




Assuming he didn't cut his hand while in the act of smash and grab.
Remember his interest in the contents of cars in the neighborhood?

On 7/3/2013 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...



The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter.
I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted
from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in
Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury
is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.

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Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that
might indicate otherwise.
Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one
shy of half the country.

Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems.

Often, Harry has lunch With Al and they have long conversations on thing
that matter. Snicker. ;-)

On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:15:25 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message



...







In article ,



says...















Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am



fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the



presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible



attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes



away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see



what



their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if



their coverage is equally biased the other way.







There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives,



too.







-----------------------------------------------------







You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a



reasonable doubt.



But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial.





The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter.

I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted

from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in

Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury

is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.

See what I mean?