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![]() "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... You are totally and conveniently forgetting the laws of physics. When the car loads the two outside tires, thus transferring most of the force to half of the contact area (since the two inside tires are doing virtually no work) that in fact does right the opposite, less contact area, less traction. The motorcycle, on the other hand because of fact that it's CG is in line with the vector only causes more friction by force. And while there is more friction by force on the car's two outside wheels, there is also less friction by force on the inside wheels. So, you now have a car with 4 times the mass using about the same tire contact area as the motorcycle. ---------------------------------------- You are talking two different things here. Stiction/Friction (traction) is one thing. Centrifugal forces due to the turn is another. In the case of high speed motorcycle cornering the latter is the governing issue, traction is secondary (until both the car and the motorcycle exceeds the limit). The gyroscopic effect of the motorcycle cannot be overcome by a weight shift by the rider sufficiently to make a high speed turn as quickly as the car. Granted, at parking lot speeds a motorcycle can turn faster than a car, but that's due to it's much shorter turn radius and the absence of any significant centrifugal force. But at high speeds, centrifugal force becomes the deciding factor. |
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