On 6/1/13 2:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:08:00 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

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I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking

at

a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



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Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'

fifth wheel. You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a

minimum.

Seems to me it was only a year ago that a certain Connecticut poster was threatening to kill me if I somehow injured one of his family members towing my new boat behind the RAV4. (I only tow in Nova Scotia)
Boat rig weighs 2000 lbs...RAV4 rated for 1500 lbs.
Scared me so much I bought the Highlander rated at 5000 lbs. ;-)


How's that Highlander working out for you? My wife wants to trade in her
4Runner, and since we are no longer towing boats, a Highlander might be
more to her liking. I do like the 4Runner for its capacity of bags of
mulch, though. You have a V6, right? 4WD, AWD?

On 6/1/2013 2:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:08:00 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

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I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking

at

a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



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Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'

fifth wheel. You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a

minimum.

Seems to me it was only a year ago that a certain Connecticut poster was threatening to kill me if I somehow injured one of his family members towing my new boat behind the RAV4. (I only tow in Nova Scotia)
Boat rig weighs 2000 lbs...RAV4 rated for 1500 lbs.
Scared me so much I bought the Highlander rated at 5000 lbs. ;-)

Well, now you can turn the tables and pound some sense into him. You
know what they say. Turn about is fair play.

On Jun 1, 2:19*pm, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:08:00 UTC-3, Eisboch *wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" *wrote in message

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I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking

at

a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

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Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'

fifth wheel. * You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a

minimum.

Seems to me it was only a year ago that a certain Connecticut poster was threatening to kill me if I somehow injured one of his family members towing my new boat behind the RAV4. (I only tow in Nova Scotia)
Boat rig weighs 2000 lbs...RAV4 rated for 1500 lbs.
Scared me so much I bought the Highlander rated at 5000 lbs. ;-)

Stil....junk is still junk....

On 6/1/2013 2:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:08:00 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message

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I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking

at

a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...



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Very doubtful that would be rated anywhere near high enough for a 36'

fifth wheel. You are going to need a 2500 or F-250 series truck at a

minimum.

Seems to me it was only a year ago that a certain Connecticut poster was threatening to kill me if I somehow injured one of his family members towing my new boat behind the RAV4. (I only tow in Nova Scotia)
Boat rig weighs 2000 lbs...RAV4 rated for 1500 lbs.
Scared me so much I bought the Highlander rated at 5000 lbs. ;-)


What are you saying? I would never overload a tow, that's why we are
asking and why we just spent two hours at a trailer retailer.... You are
the one who suggested you really didn't care much about the ratings...
not me.

On 6/1/13 12:59 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:34 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:17 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
So a friend has a 36 foot fifth wheel camper. The thing is huge, my wife
loves it... the guy is offering it to us for a nominal number, probably
get it for about 15 hundred. It's relatively newer looking, everything
works, clean inside with one roof leak. New bearings, tires, etc.

But it's 36 frekin' feet! That of course means another vehicle, probably
a big diesel with dual rears??? The reason I put those three question
marks is I don't know what it means...

So, what do I need to tow something like that and my other question is
if I went with something 10 feet shorter (a 25-6 footer), would I be
able to downsize the tow vehicle enough to make a difference in initial
cost and gas mileage or with a 26 would I pretty much need the same
vehicle...

The end game here is getting the wife to go with us to races, and this
is the first camper she ever got in that she actually liked.. said she
would def go camping with us if we were in that...

We are looking at other campers today but for 1500, I don't think I am
gonna' find anything like it..

So my questions are all about trucks. Remember, this one is a fifth
wheel, so what do I need? What are my options.. Thanks.

Pay close attention to the roof leak. What caused it? What will it take
to repair it$$$$$. Will it fit wherever you want to take it? For
instance, don't plan on sandwiching it into Donnie's driveway. ;-)
Vehicle weight will determine what you need to pull and stop it.
$1500 sounds too good to be true.


The 1500 is reasonable when you consider who the guy is and how we are
connected to him... It's a decent trailer that is still in service by a
family but they have several others... so they are gonna' "sponsor" us a
camper basically...

I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at
a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

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Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very
small 5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer
is going to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light
duty truck.

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

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Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck.


Sometimes trailer brakes go hooky falooky on you.

On 6/1/2013 3:05 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't think a truck that size has the brakes to successfully control
and stop a 36' trailer.

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Don't think that's the issue so much. The trailer should have brakes
designed to handle it's weight.
The problem is the light duty nature of the truck in terms of engine,
transmission, frame, suspension, etc. To the best of my knowledge a
F-150 or the 1500 series from GM or Dodge are recommended for very small
5th wheel trailers and that's a stretch for them. A 36 footer is going
to weigh in at 12,000 lbs or more. Way too much for a light duty truck.



Yeah, we looked at a few trailers today. The truck is rated 5000 and the
17 foot Cub we looked at today comes in at 3400... The 23 foot Jayco
Ultralight was real sweet but would butt right up against the limits at
4400 pounds and even used was pretty expensive. We are considering the
17 footer used, it has everything I need. Two seperate bedrooms for me
and Jess. Bath, shower, toilet. Propane stove, fridge, heat.... weighs
in at 3200 ponds.

On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at
a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I
wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight
and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated
to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it.

On 6/1/2013 2:26 PM, thumper wrote:
On 6/1/2013 9:59 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

I have been talking to some truck guys around here and we are looking at
a 1500 Silverado four door with a 5.3...

I tow my 4500 lb boat with a 5.3L Suburban and while it does fine I
wouldn't want much more weight behind me. What is the trailer weight
and what kind of brakes does it have? Check what the vehicle is rated
to tow and leave some margin. Consider all the crap you load into it.

Probably close to 15,000 lbs.