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JustWaitAFrekinMinute May 20th 13 11:19 PM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
On 5/20/2013 5:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these
electric cars come from
hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each
night and plugs their cars
into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current
electrical grid have the
ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their
electric applicances the
demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want
a charging station in
your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations
have a habit of bursting
into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning
gasoline and diesel in cars
and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating
station. Remember when the
wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless.

These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore.
Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low
demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could
easily flip that.
You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that
money.

As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich
people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change
quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle.

The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every vehicle
passing an
intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and
the weight of the
vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel
taxes will have to be
repealed.


They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are
already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a
year
ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax
motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info
wouldn't get out btw.. LOL!

Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike.


Yuk, yuk... you add so much..


Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your team
is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way,
right?


Yeah, sure... if you say so...

F.O.A.D. May 21st 13 12:36 AM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
On 5/20/13 6:19 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 5:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these
electric cars come from
hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each
night and plugs their cars
into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current
electrical grid have the
ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their
electric applicances the
demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really
want
a charging station in
your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations
have a habit of bursting
into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning
gasoline and diesel in cars
and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating
station. Remember when the
wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless.

These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore.
Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low
demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could
easily flip that.
You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that
money.

As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich
people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change
quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle.

The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every
vehicle
passing an
intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and
the weight of the
vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel
taxes will have to be
repealed.


They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are
already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a
year
ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax
motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info
wouldn't get out btw.. LOL!

Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike.

Yuk, yuk... you add so much..


Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your team
is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way,
right?


Yeah, sure... if you say so...

You claimed a champion.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute May 21st 13 12:39 AM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
On 5/20/2013 7:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 6:19 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 5:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these
electric cars come from
hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each
night and plugs their cars
into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the
current
electrical grid have the
ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their
electric applicances the
demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really
want
a charging station in
your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations
have a habit of bursting
into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning
gasoline and diesel in cars
and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating
station. Remember when the
wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless.

These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore.
Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low
demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could
easily flip that.
You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that
money.

As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich
people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would
change
quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle.

The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every
vehicle
passing an
intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and
the weight of the
vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel
taxes will have to be
repealed.


They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are
already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a
year
ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax
motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info
wouldn't get out btw.. LOL!

Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike.

Yuk, yuk... you add so much..

Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your team
is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way,
right?


Yeah, sure... if you say so...

You claimed a champion.


Not quite, but I don't have time to play with you or your dirty friends...

F.O.A.D. May 21st 13 12:46 AM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
On 5/20/13 7:39 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 7:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 6:19 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 5:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these
electric cars come from
hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each
night and plugs their cars
into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the
current
electrical grid have the
ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their
electric applicances the
demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really
want
a charging station in
your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations
have a habit of bursting
into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning
gasoline and diesel in cars
and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating
station. Remember when the
wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless.

These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore.
Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low
demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid
could
easily flip that.
You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that
money.

As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich
people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would
change
quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle.

The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every
vehicle
passing an
intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and
the weight of the
vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel
fuel
taxes will have to be
repealed.


They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are
already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a
year
ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax
motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info
wouldn't get out btw.. LOL!

Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike.

Yuk, yuk... you add so much..

Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your
team
is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way,
right?

Yeah, sure... if you say so...

You claimed a champion.


Not quite, but I don't have time to play with you or your dirty friends...



No, not quite. You did.

True North[_2_] May 21st 13 03:23 AM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
Natural born liar at work again?

iBoaterer[_3_] May 21st 13 01:56 PM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these
electric cars come from
hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each
night and plugs their cars
into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current
electrical grid have the
ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their
electric applicances the
demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want
a charging station in
your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations
have a habit of bursting
into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning
gasoline and diesel in cars
and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating
station. Remember when the
wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless.

These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore.
Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low
demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could
easily flip that.
You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that
money.

As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich
people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change
quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle.

The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every vehicle
passing an
intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and
the weight of the
vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel
taxes will have to be
repealed.


They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are
already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a year
ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax
motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info
wouldn't get out btw.. LOL!

Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike.


Yuk, yuk... you add so much..


Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your team
is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way,
right?


Uh, Harry, I did a little checking through some friends that are in the
sport, they did some checking, it's pure horse****!!!!

iBoaterer[_3_] May 21st 13 01:57 PM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On 5/20/2013 7:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 6:19 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 5:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote:

Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these
electric cars come from
hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each
night and plugs their cars
into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the
current
electrical grid have the
ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their
electric applicances the
demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really
want
a charging station in
your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations
have a habit of bursting
into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning
gasoline and diesel in cars
and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating
station. Remember when the
wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless.

These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore.
Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low
demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could
easily flip that.
You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that
money.

As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich
people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would
change
quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle.

The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every
vehicle
passing an
intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and
the weight of the
vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel
taxes will have to be
repealed.


They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are
already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a
year
ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax
motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info
wouldn't get out btw.. LOL!

Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike.

Yuk, yuk... you add so much..

Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your team
is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way,
right?

Yeah, sure... if you say so...

You claimed a champion.


Not quite, but I don't have time to play with you or your dirty friends...


Are you saying that you didn't say she was a champion? You DID, and
furthermore upon doing some checking, it's a lie.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 21st 13 02:00 PM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
In article ,
says...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

In article ,
says...

In article ,

says...

On 5/18/13 6:04 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2013 16:19:12 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article
,
says...


The only thing R&T didn't like about it was the door handles!

How about the problem with lack of "refueling stations"?

Ant the fact that it takes over an hour to "refuel" (every
150-180
miles)
The 450 mile trip from DC to Boston required 2 recharges,
starting
with a full charge.



No onboard nuclear fueled steam turbine to generate 'lectricity?


That's technology and they don't like technology. Rub two sticks
together to start a fire is about as technical as they want to get
it
seems.


There is nothing wrong with new technology. The questions arise out of
forcing the new
technology on to the people before it is ready. Solar panels only work
when the sun is
shining. Wind turbines only work when the wind is blosing. Coal,
natural gas, oil and nuclear
work 24 hours a day.

A battery is an energy storage device.

------------------------------------

Exactly. It took some other form of energy to create the charge in
the battery. Hocus Pocus.


Yeah, don't those fools who use flashlights know that they aren't going
to work? And that car battery that starts the car, who would be so
foolish as to depend on that?

Boating All Out May 21st 13 02:51 PM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..


A battery is an energy storage device.

------------------------------------

Exactly. It took some other form of energy to create the charge in
the battery. Hocus Pocus.


Yeah, don't those fools who use flashlights know that they aren't going
to work? And that car battery that starts the car, who would be so
foolish as to depend on that?


The ignorance is kind of funny. No concept of the advantage of electric
power plant efficiency vs internal combustion engine efficiency.
Basically just knees jerking all over the place.
Expect that from BAR, but somewhat surprised that Richard wasn't more
thoughtful before saying what he did.
Kool-Aid has strange effects.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 21st 13 05:53 PM

The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 21 May 2013 09:00:43 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Exactly. It took some other form of energy to create the charge in
the battery. Hocus Pocus.


Yeah, don't those fools who use flashlights know that they aren't going
to work? And that car battery that starts the car, who would be so
foolish as to depend on that?


In the case of an electric car in the north east and central US, it is
a coal powered car. How environmentally friendly is that?


There's also natural gas, and nuclear, but when converted to clean coal
technology (there's that awful word again) it's quite environmentally
friendly, especially when they do away with strip mining to get to it
and make them tunnel.


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