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The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
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In article , says... On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 16:19:12 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... The only thing R&T didn't like about it was the door handles! How about the problem with lack of "refueling stations"? Ant the fact that it takes over an hour to "refuel" (every 150-180 miles) The 450 mile trip from DC to Boston required 2 recharges, starting with a full charge. No onboard nuclear fueled steam turbine to generate 'lectricity? That's technology and they don't like technology. Rub two sticks together to start a fire is about as technical as they want to get it seems. There is nothing wrong with new technology. The questions arise out of forcing the new technology on to the people before it is ready. Solar panels only work when the sun is shining. Wind turbines only work when the wind is blosing. Coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear work 24 hours a day. A battery is an energy storage device. |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
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In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 13 May 2013 05:20:04 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:41:24 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/cwydck5 More proof that Consumer Reports is a useless rag. Bert, check out the last few issues of Road and Track. They love the Tesla. For 90 grand, it ought to be pretty nice. There are many, many $90k cars out there that don't have the technical advances, reliability, etc. of cars a LOT cheaper. "it showed us that the silent, electron-powered future could actually work-and quickly, at that." The only thing R&T didn't like about it was the door handles! How about the problem with lack of "refueling stations"? They probably said the same thing to Henry Ford. Look, we get it, FOXites are afraid of technology. The issues is speed and efficiency. I can pull into a gasoline station and fill up my tank in a matter of minutes and be on my way. If I have to pull into a electric charging station I am going to be sitting around for a long time waiting for my electrons to be transferred into my battery. Therein lies the problem, speed and effiency of refueling. This problem existed 115 years ago and it still exists now. Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these electric cars come from hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each night and plugs their cars into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current electrical grid have the ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their electric applicances the demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want a charging station in your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations have a habit of bursting into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning gasoline and diesel in cars and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating station. Remember when the wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless. I will keep my gasoline powered vehicles for quite some time due to the fact that I can continue to live my life without scheduling things around auto charging schedules. If I need gasoline I can get the next time I am driving and it will take less than 10 minutes and I am good for another week or two. |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
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says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Mon, 13 May 2013 05:20:04 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:41:24 AM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://tinyurl.com/cwydck5 More proof that Consumer Reports is a useless rag. Bert, check out the last few issues of Road and Track. They love the Tesla. For 90 grand, it ought to be pretty nice. There are many, many $90k cars out there that don't have the technical advances, reliability, etc. of cars a LOT cheaper. "it showed us that the silent, electron-powered future could actually work-and quickly, at that." The only thing R&T didn't like about it was the door handles! How about the problem with lack of "refueling stations"? They probably said the same thing to Henry Ford. Look, we get it, FOXites are afraid of technology. The issues is speed and efficiency. I can pull into a gasoline station and fill up my tank in a matter of minutes and be on my way. If I have to pull into a electric charging station I am going to be sitting around for a long time waiting for my electrons to be transferred into my battery. Therein lies the problem, speed and effiency of refueling. This problem existed 115 years ago and it still exists now. Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these electric cars come from hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each night and plugs their cars into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current electrical grid have the ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their electric applicances the demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want a charging station in your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations have a habit of bursting into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning gasoline and diesel in cars and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating station. Remember when the wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless. I will keep my gasoline powered vehicles for quite some time due to the fact that I can continue to live my life without scheduling things around auto charging schedules. If I need gasoline I can get the next time I am driving and it will take less than 10 minutes and I am good for another week or two. Of course..... As I said..... |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
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The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote: Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these electric cars come from hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each night and plugs their cars into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current electrical grid have the ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their electric applicances the demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want a charging station in your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations have a habit of bursting into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning gasoline and diesel in cars and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating station. Remember when the wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless. These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore. Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could easily flip that. You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that money. As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle. The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every vehicle passing an intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and the weight of the vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel taxes will have to be repealed. They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a year ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info wouldn't get out btw.. LOL! |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote: Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these electric cars come from hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each night and plugs their cars into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current electrical grid have the ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their electric applicances the demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want a charging station in your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations have a habit of bursting into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning gasoline and diesel in cars and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating station. Remember when the wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless. These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore. Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could easily flip that. You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that money. As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle. The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every vehicle passing an intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and the weight of the vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel taxes will have to be repealed. They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a year ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info wouldn't get out btw.. LOL! Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike. |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote: Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these electric cars come from hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each night and plugs their cars into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current electrical grid have the ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their electric applicances the demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want a charging station in your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations have a habit of bursting into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning gasoline and diesel in cars and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating station. Remember when the wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless. These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore. Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could easily flip that. You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that money. As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle. The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every vehicle passing an intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and the weight of the vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel taxes will have to be repealed. They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a year ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info wouldn't get out btw.. LOL! Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike. Yuk, yuk... you add so much.. |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
On 5/20/13 5:11 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/20/2013 3:49 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/20/13 3:38 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/20/2013 3:11 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:04:56 -0400, BAR wrote: Also the whole issue of where does the electricy to refuel these electric cars come from hasn't been addressed. When everyone pulls into their garage each night and plugs their cars into the in-house there will be a surge in demand. Does the current electrical grid have the ability to service this demand? With everyone turning on their electric applicances the demand for electricty will be even greater. Also, do you really want a charging station in your garage attached to your house? I don't the charging stations have a habit of bursting into flames igniting the house on fire. If you are not burning gasoline and diesel in cars and trucks then it will need to be burned at the power generating station. Remember when the wind stops and the sun goes down wind and solar are useless. These are problems electric car fans seem to ignore. Right now the nights are when power is cheap because that is a low demand time but a significant number of cars hitting the grid could easily flip that. You also have the road tax issue. They will need to replace that money. As long as these are fairly rare, it is a good thing for the rich people who can afford to buy one of these toys but that would change quickly if it became a more commonly owned vehicle. The only solution is to use the EZ-Pass system to record every vehicle passing an intersection and charge them a road tax based upon their milage and the weight of the vehicle. This will require that the current gasoline and diesel fuel taxes will have to be repealed. They will not be repealed, they will just be added on to... They are already testing systems like that, I "cited" that for loogie over a year ago... It was iirc, in Oregon... Testing a system which would tax motorists based on a GPS in the cars black box... Swore your info wouldn't get out btw.. LOL! Perhaps the fee will double if you are towing a dirtbike. Yuk, yuk... you add so much.. Shouldn't matter to you...according to one of your posts here, your team is the champion and therefore your sponsors should be paying your way, right? |
The right wing anti-technology types won't like this!!!
"BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... In article , says... On 5/18/13 6:04 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 16:19:12 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... The only thing R&T didn't like about it was the door handles! How about the problem with lack of "refueling stations"? Ant the fact that it takes over an hour to "refuel" (every 150-180 miles) The 450 mile trip from DC to Boston required 2 recharges, starting with a full charge. No onboard nuclear fueled steam turbine to generate 'lectricity? That's technology and they don't like technology. Rub two sticks together to start a fire is about as technical as they want to get it seems. There is nothing wrong with new technology. The questions arise out of forcing the new technology on to the people before it is ready. Solar panels only work when the sun is shining. Wind turbines only work when the wind is blosing. Coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear work 24 hours a day. A battery is an energy storage device. ------------------------------------ Exactly. It took some other form of energy to create the charge in the battery. Hocus Pocus. |
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