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iBoaterer[_3_] May 8th 13 08:00 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
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On Wed, 8 May 2013 13:22:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

So you think someone should take a potentially deadly beating and not
be able to defend himself?


You have NO idea whether that is what happened or not. You are going to
say what FOX tells you to say, that Zimmerman was a darling, great
citizen and that Martin no business being there, despite the truth.



Have you read the police report?

It is a public record


Yes, I have. And in it the police make no mention of a "deadly beating".
There is a LOT of hearsay in it from Zimmerman, though. And I guess, if
you take a KNOWN liar's word just because FOX tells you to, that's your
downfall.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 8th 13 08:02 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:45:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 5/8/13 12:38 PM,
wrote:


So you think someone should take a potentially deadly beating and not
be able to defend himself?

Instead you live in a "retreat" state where you could be charged for
shooting an intruder in your own home if there was any possibility
that you might have been able to escape.
Before you opine, know that a friend of mine did 7 years in the
Maryland prison system for killing an intruder ... because he had an
opportunity to run out the door.


I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he
ran to his truck and got his pistol.


It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to
it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is
out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself)


The police didn't see it, how could THEY make judgment? The girlfriend
said that the kid simply asked why Zimmerman was following him.
Zimmerman gave a lot of hearsay, but then he's a known liar.

Eisboch[_8_] May 8th 13 08:59 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:12:30 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 7 May 2013 14:49:31 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

How did
Zimmerman know about his past, unless Zimmerman knew who he was?

====

He didn't need to know. Anyone walking aimlessly through a
neighborhood and looking into cars is immediately suspect. That
is
usually criminal behavior and it's easy to spot.


So, everyone should shoot and kill anybody walking (NOT aimlessly)
through a neighborhood turning his head toward cars (allegedly).
Got it.


===

That's nonsense of course but you seem to have your mind made up
already, so what's the point of discussing it? Most importantly,
the
courts will ultimately decide regardless of our opinions.


That's what happened!

-------------------------------------------------------

If you are an eye witness to this I'd suggest you immediately contact
the attorneys involved and offer your testimony.
If you are not an eye witness, then your assumptions are pure
speculation.




[email protected] May 8th 13 09:03 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:59:05 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...



In article ,

says...



On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:12:30 -0400, iBoaterer


wrote:




In article ,


says...




On Tue, 7 May 2013 14:49:31 -0400, iBoaterer


wrote:




How did


Zimmerman know about his past, unless Zimmerman knew who he was?




====




He didn't need to know. Anyone walking aimlessly through a


neighborhood and looking into cars is immediately suspect. That


is


usually criminal behavior and it's easy to spot.




So, everyone should shoot and kill anybody walking (NOT aimlessly)


through a neighborhood turning his head toward cars (allegedly).


Got it.




===




That's nonsense of course but you seem to have your mind made up


already, so what's the point of discussing it? Most importantly,


the


courts will ultimately decide regardless of our opinions.




That's what happened!



-------------------------------------------------------



If you are an eye witness to this I'd suggest you immediately contact

the attorneys involved and offer your testimony.

If you are not an eye witness, then your assumptions are pure

speculation.


As are yours.

[email protected] May 8th 13 09:05 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:59:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:


The autopsy showed Martin had banged up fists and no other injuries
but a bullet hole in his chest. We have seen the pictures of
Zimmerman's face and the back of his head. I suppose you and Sharpton
can explain that another way but it sure sounds like a beating to me.


Zimmerman was using his face to bang up Martin's knuckles.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 8th 13 09:13 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:12:30 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 7 May 2013 14:49:31 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

How did
Zimmerman know about his past, unless Zimmerman knew who he was?

====

He didn't need to know. Anyone walking aimlessly through a
neighborhood and looking into cars is immediately suspect. That
is
usually criminal behavior and it's easy to spot.

So, everyone should shoot and kill anybody walking (NOT aimlessly)
through a neighborhood turning his head toward cars (allegedly).
Got it.


===

That's nonsense of course but you seem to have your mind made up
already, so what's the point of discussing it? Most importantly,
the
courts will ultimately decide regardless of our opinions.


That's what happened!

-------------------------------------------------------

If you are an eye witness to this I'd suggest you immediately contact
the attorneys involved and offer your testimony.
If you are not an eye witness, then your assumptions are pure
speculation.


That's my point exactly! I'm no more a witness to it than Greg, BAR or
FOX news!

iBoaterer[_3_] May 8th 13 09:14 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:17:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 5/8/13 2:15 PM,
wrote:

It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to
it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is
out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself)



Fights can be initiated with words.


Not legally, particularly where you live.

If we are to believe the statement from the girl friend who was on the
phone at the time, the words were
"Why are you following me" (martin)
"What are you doing here" (Unknown person, to her, presumably
Zimmerman)
and the fight started.

Again, this was a representative of the HOA asking a stranger what he
was doing on private property. He could have, as easily, been a guy
from Wackenhut. I imagine Martin would have hit him too.

Would you ask someone what they were doing in your driveway if they
were looking into your car? Would you defend yourself if they knocked
you to the ground, broke your nose and banged your head on the
concrete? Evidence of those injuries is undisputed, the cops have
pictures.


If a man comes chases me because I'm walking at night and accosts me, he
certainly would be in for a fight!

iBoaterer[_3_] May 8th 13 09:15 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 May 2013 15:02:23 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:45:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he
ran to his truck and got his pistol.

It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to
it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is
out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself)


The police didn't see it, how could THEY make judgment? The girlfriend
said that the kid simply asked why Zimmerman was following him.
Zimmerman gave a lot of hearsay, but then he's a known liar.


If you keep going with the girl friends's story, Zimmerman asked "What
are you doing here" and the fight started.
Presumably Martin's answer to that question was a punch in the face.

The autopsy showed Martin had banged up fists and no other injuries
but a bullet hole in his chest. We have seen the pictures of
Zimmerman's face and the back of his head. I suppose you and Sharpton
can explain that another way but it sure sounds like a beating to me.


So, I guess that if a stranger comes running up to you in the middle of
the night, you'd just let him do whatever he wants to you? Hell yes, he
was fighting for his life, a thug had accosted him with a gun.

Eisboch[_8_] May 8th 13 09:43 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 


wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:59:05 PM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...



In article ,

says...



On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:12:30 -0400, iBoaterer


wrote:




In article ,


says...




On Tue, 7 May 2013 14:49:31 -0400, iBoaterer


wrote:




How did


Zimmerman know about his past, unless Zimmerman knew who he
was?




====




He didn't need to know. Anyone walking aimlessly through a


neighborhood and looking into cars is immediately suspect.
That


is


usually criminal behavior and it's easy to spot.




So, everyone should shoot and kill anybody walking (NOT
aimlessly)


through a neighborhood turning his head toward cars (allegedly).


Got it.




===




That's nonsense of course but you seem to have your mind made up


already, so what's the point of discussing it? Most importantly,


the


courts will ultimately decide regardless of our opinions.




That's what happened!



-------------------------------------------------------



If you are an eye witness to this I'd suggest you immediately
contact

the attorneys involved and offer your testimony.

If you are not an eye witness, then your assumptions are pure

speculation.


As are yours.

-----------------------------------

Mine? I haven't offered an opinion or assumption one way or the
other.



Hank©[_2_] May 8th 13 10:04 PM

For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
 
On 5/8/2013 3:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:17:28 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 5/8/13 2:15 PM,
wrote:

It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to
it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is
out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself)



Fights can be initiated with words.


Not legally, particularly where you live.

If we are to believe the statement from the girl friend who was on the
phone at the time, the words were
"Why are you following me" (martin)
"What are you doing here" (Unknown person, to her, presumably
Zimmerman)
and the fight started.

Again, this was a representative of the HOA asking a stranger what he
was doing on private property. He could have, as easily, been a guy
from Wackenhut. I imagine Martin would have hit him too.

Would you ask someone what they were doing in your driveway if they
were looking into your car? Would you defend yourself if they knocked
you to the ground, broke your nose and banged your head on the
concrete? Evidence of those injuries is undisputed, the cops have
pictures.


Why do you bother going back and forth with Krause. You have logic and
facts supporting your side of the argument. Krause has nothing. You win.


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