On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:46:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:29:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Some things happen, some don't. In your brain, government is bad, so
I
guess you don't mind the superhighways and only drive on surface
streets. Oh yeah, they're funded by the government in part also.

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And the government is funded by ........?

The people of course. According to the right, the government is evil
and should be drowned in a tub? So, assuming you're not insane, what's
your point with the comment?

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Not insane that I know of. But I have a feeling that if I hang
around here much longer, I'll be well on my way.
Carry on.


Ok.. well, just wondering you were trying to make a point...

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:53:35 -0400, wrote:

There is more new technology being developed in oil and gas than
electric cars. That is how we are getting production from "dead" wells
and sources of oil that were not viable 20 years ago.

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According to my sources we are well on our way (no pun intended) to
becoming the Saudia Arabia of natural gas. As a low cost producer
with almost unlimited supplies, it is going to have a profound impact
on everything from transportation to "on shoring" of new manufacturing
facilities.

On Apr 4, 9:02*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:53:35 -0400, wrote:
There is more new technology being developed in oil and gas than
electric cars. That is how we are getting production from "dead" wells
and sources of oil that were not viable 20 years ago.

====

According to my sources we are well on our way (no pun intended) to
becoming the Saudia Arabia of natural gas. * As a low cost producer
with almost unlimited supplies, it is going to have a profound impact
on everything from transportation to "on shoring" of new manufacturing
facilities.

I'm all for it! A local School District was the first in Illinois to
buy a propane-fueled school bus. They're planning on ordering more.
The transportation supervisor says it's more economical to run than
the diesels they have, and easier to maintain as well.

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:02:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:53:35 -0400, wrote:

There is more new technology being developed in oil and gas than
electric cars. That is how we are getting production from "dead" wells
and sources of oil that were not viable 20 years ago.

====

According to my sources we are well on our way (no pun intended) to
becoming the Saudia Arabia of natural gas. As a low cost producer
with almost unlimited supplies, it is going to have a profound impact
on everything from transportation to "on shoring" of new manufacturing
facilities.

That's true. I have some issues with fracking, but it might be a
problem that can be solved.

Yet another reason not to have another oil pipeline.

In article , says...

On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:29:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:06:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:55:50 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax
money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already
building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms
without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help
in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing
copper
paths.

Well, gee.. ya think? THe open question... what a load of ****.

I suppose that is true if you think nothing ever happens in this
country without massive amounts of government corporate welfare.


Some things happen, some don't. In your brain, government is bad, so I
guess you don't mind the superhighways and only drive on surface
streets. Oh yeah, they're funded by the government in part also.

----------------------------------

And the government is funded by ........?

The people of course. According to the right, the government is evil
and should be drowned in a tub? So, assuming you're not insane, what's
your point with the comment?

Vesting power in people whose continued existence is keeping that power is inherently evil.

On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 20:08:24 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:29:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:06:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:55:50 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax
money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already
building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms
without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help
in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing
copper
paths.

Well, gee.. ya think? THe open question... what a load of ****.

I suppose that is true if you think nothing ever happens in this
country without massive amounts of government corporate welfare.


Some things happen, some don't. In your brain, government is bad, so I
guess you don't mind the superhighways and only drive on surface
streets. Oh yeah, they're funded by the government in part also.

----------------------------------

And the government is funded by ........?

The people of course. According to the right, the government is evil
and should be drowned in a tub? So, assuming you're not insane, what's
your point with the comment?

Vesting power in people whose continued existence is keeping that power is inherently evil.

So you don't believe in our representative democracy. I suggest North
Korea. Let us know how that turns out.

On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 01:09:40 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:09:32 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

So you don't believe in our representative democracy.

Do you think the politicians represent you? How much did you give them
last cycle?

The one's I voted for, mostly yes. They won also. Maybe you need
different ones.

In article , says...

On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..

We used small microwave equipment to connumincate between buildings on our campus in the late
80's and early 90's. We could run a T1 thorugh our own equipment. We extended phone, via
internal PBX, and TCP/IP between buildings.

In article ,
says...

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:52:56 AM UTC-4, wrote:

Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.

The company I work for has done business with all of the Class I railroads in the US, some for over 30 years. Way back when, they owned and operated their own microwave backbones that spanned their entire rail networks, some covering 10+ states. With the advent of fiber, they all made deals with the telecoms to allow fiber to be installed in their track right-of-ways. Some negotiated for a certain amount of bandwidth, some for dark fiber. Of course, those microwave
backbones are mostly just memories now.

I have a friend whose job was to wait until train derailments and then go out and fix the
fiber cables.

In article , says...

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:12:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/4/13 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:28:56 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely that Gore was
a driving force behind the internet.

LOL! Right...

You really should actually investigate a subject before making stupid
comments. But then again, you are insane and stupid.

Gore certainly WAS a driving force behind the internet. Too bad O'Reilly
won't tell you the truth, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore...ion_technology


Gore was instrumental in passing a law that threw a lot of tax money
at the backbone infrastructure that the telcoms were already building.
You can easily argue that this was the kick start for broadband and
"fast" internet we are now used to,
The open question is how long it would have taken the telcoms without
this infusion of tax money and whether there was some federal help in
getting easements, although most of the fiber followed existing copper
paths.
IBM and Comsat were part of that enterprise and we were hearing about
it in the TP community before the first foot of fiber was laid. At
that time, your best chance for real broadband was leasing space on TV
cable hard line but that was short hops and fairly limited capacity.
The first time I saw that setup was in Dallas where the education
center was on the other side of Rt 124 from the main Dallas office and
there was no easy way to get across that road. The cable company
offered us what would be called a T1 these days a whole lot cheaper
than the RBOC. I am not sure they even had it available in that area
at the time..


No offense intended, but could you fellas find some new topics over
which you can split hairs for a few millions posts? This one is boring,
and, as I age, I get bored more easily.

Thanks...

Part of your audience.

How about sharing some of your 'special circumstances' for carrying with a round in the chamber.
That would be exciting, I'm sure.

It makes his Virginia carry permit a little stiffer in his pocket.

And, don't read the posts if you find them boring. Do you really believe your cut'n'pastes are
exciting?