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Why we can't have good things
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Why we can't have good things
On 4/5/2013 11:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/5/13 11:08 AM, J Herring wrote: On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:55:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/5/13 10:50 AM, J Herring wrote: On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:21:09 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 4/5/2013 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/5/13 7:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... The "religious right" probably is the single greatest cause of agnosticism. You said that without thinking, didn't you? And I doubt if Jeremiah and his crowd are 'religious right'! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Two followup comments that make no sense...from two rightwing posters who make no sense. Figures. Your 'special circumstances' make sense? Do you believe Jeremiah was 'religious right'. Only with his last name. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. My posit: "The "religious right" probably is the single greatest cause of agnosticism." Whatever you and manure-breath from Florida are raving about has nothing to do with my posit. How can anyone with a brain take your stupid "posit" seriously? |
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 04:36:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29*am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... I'm glad that's all it was! |
Why we can't have good things
On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:02:44 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 4/5/2013 7:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... Well, they are just doing it because you came back for a few hours:) LOL! While you were gone they were on to whatever troll was relevant at the time. It's clear they are democrats and have no tolerance for anybody different. Why do you think the party in general works so hard to keep the poor down? Maybe somebody should have shoved the crucifix up your ass further and said cough. |
Why we can't have good things
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:21:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message om... On 4/5/13 8:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/5/2013 7:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... Well, they are just doing it because you came back for a few hours:) LOL! While you were gone they were on to whatever troll was relevant at the time. It's clear they are democrats and have no tolerance for anybody different. Why do you think the party in general works so hard to keep the poor down? Most of us lefties who are not "religious" have absolutely no objections to those who are religious and are courteous enough to not try to shove their religious beliefs in our faces. Certainly Tim is religious and certainly it is fine with me if he wants to discuss his beliefs here. It is only offensive when the religious try to directly or indirectly force those beliefs on those who believe differently or not at all. Here's an example. Several times a year, members of the community of the religious ring our doorbell. Most of the time, the callers simply ask if we'd like to come to their church services or events. Sometimes they will leave behind a flyer or brochure. We have no objection to that. But once or twice a year, we're called upon by proselytizers, pushy representatives of the religious who apparently are looking for converts. "Have you found Jesus?" "Don't you want to?" "We have a minister who is very good at speaking to non-believers." And much ore and far worse. The anti-abortionists are particularly disgusting. The latter are also the same people who try to use the legislative processes to force their beliefs onto the general public. Screw that and them. --------------------------------------------------- I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in many different states and countries, including two years in your general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The "conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since. I guess you have. We get the ****ing jesus freaks all the time. I finally put a sign on the door that says no soliciting, including for religion, and that helped, but some of those morons can't read I guess. Oh, we did have some neighbors in Florida who tried to encourage us to attend their church but after a polite but firm refusal of interest by us, it never happened again. During the guitar shop adventure I've met many people who perform at their church services. Some are "worship leaders". In fact my buddy who took over the shop is very religious and often plays at his church. Not once in the almost 5 years that I've known him has he ever tried to influence me with any of his beliefs and we've had many discussions about religion and faith in general. I have visited his church from time to time however, mainly because they have a killer 10,000 watt sound system that was installed by one of the church members who is also an acoustic engineer. The music played through the system sounds incredibly good and the engineer has helped me with some of the acoustic treatments for the new performance venue I am involved with. For the record, I don't give a **** what someone believes inside their head. I do give a **** when they open their mouth and I have to listen to it. |
Why we can't have good things
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:50:16 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message om... On 4/5/13 9:21 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/5/13 8:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/5/2013 7:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... Well, they are just doing it because you came back for a few hours:) LOL! While you were gone they were on to whatever troll was relevant at the time. It's clear they are democrats and have no tolerance for anybody different. Why do you think the party in general works so hard to keep the poor down? Most of us lefties who are not "religious" have absolutely no objections to those who are religious and are courteous enough to not try to shove their religious beliefs in our faces. Certainly Tim is religious and certainly it is fine with me if he wants to discuss his beliefs here. It is only offensive when the religious try to directly or indirectly force those beliefs on those who believe differently or not at all. Here's an example. Several times a year, members of the community of the religious ring our doorbell. Most of the time, the callers simply ask if we'd like to come to their church services or events. Sometimes they will leave behind a flyer or brochure. We have no objection to that. But once or twice a year, we're called upon by proselytizers, pushy representatives of the religious who apparently are looking for converts. "Have you found Jesus?" "Don't you want to?" "We have a minister who is very good at speaking to non-believers." And much ore and far worse. The anti-abortionists are particularly disgusting. The latter are also the same people who try to use the legislative processes to force their beliefs onto the general public. Screw that and them. --------------------------------------------------- I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in many different states and countries, including two years in your general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The "conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since. Oh, we did have some neighbors in Florida who tried to encourage us to attend their church but after a polite but firm refusal of interest by us, it never happened again. During the guitar shop adventure I've met many people who perform at their church services. Some are "worship leaders". In fact my buddy who took over the shop is very religious and often plays at his church. Not once in the almost 5 years that I've known him has he ever tried to influence me with any of his beliefs and we've had many discussions about religion and faith in general. I have visited his church from time to time however, mainly because they have a killer 10,000 watt sound system that was installed by one of the church members who is also an acoustic engineer. The music played through the system sounds incredibly good and the engineer has helped me with some of the acoustic treatments for the new performance venue I am involved with. We live in an area that is far more "rural" than "cosmopolitan" Annapolis, even though the latter is only about 25 miles away. There are lots of churches down here. We probably get between six and nine home visits a year by "the church ladies," and, as I said, most of them are not offensive in any way. It's funny, but when I was growing up in New Haven and attending Sheridan Junior High, we'd end up playing basketball or kickball afterschool many afternoons in the recreation yard of the catholic church in the parish. It was pretty safe: the nuns kept an eye on everything and every so often several of the priests would come out to shoot some hoops. There never were any "religious" discussions initiated by the clergy there. I am sure, though, that if one of the kids wanted to discuss "faith issues," a nun or priest would have been glad to accommodate. Nowadays, too much of religion is "in your face." --------------------------------------------------- I guess it depends on how sensitive you are to it. I never feel any direct "in my face" religious influence by others. Our next door neighbors of 13 years are Baptists and she is an ordained minister at their church. He is an engineer at the Pilgram nuclear power plant. We see them often and there has never been an attempt by either of them to try to influence us with their beliefs nor by us in ours. I have a preacher down the street. Nice guy. He probably got the message when he came over to ask us about garbage pickup. Never said a word about religion. Also, he drinks wine. |
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:18:19 -0400, Hank©
wrote: On 4/5/2013 9:50 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/5/13 9:21 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/5/13 8:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/5/2013 7:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... Well, they are just doing it because you came back for a few hours:) LOL! While you were gone they were on to whatever troll was relevant at the time. It's clear they are democrats and have no tolerance for anybody different. Why do you think the party in general works so hard to keep the poor down? Most of us lefties who are not "religious" have absolutely no objections to those who are religious and are courteous enough to not try to shove their religious beliefs in our faces. Certainly Tim is religious and certainly it is fine with me if he wants to discuss his beliefs here. It is only offensive when the religious try to directly or indirectly force those beliefs on those who believe differently or not at all. Here's an example. Several times a year, members of the community of the religious ring our doorbell. Most of the time, the callers simply ask if we'd like to come to their church services or events. Sometimes they will leave behind a flyer or brochure. We have no objection to that. But once or twice a year, we're called upon by proselytizers, pushy representatives of the religious who apparently are looking for converts. "Have you found Jesus?" "Don't you want to?" "We have a minister who is very good at speaking to non-believers." And much ore and far worse. The anti-abortionists are particularly disgusting. The latter are also the same people who try to use the legislative processes to force their beliefs onto the general public. Screw that and them. --------------------------------------------------- I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in many different states and countries, including two years in your general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The "conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since. Oh, we did have some neighbors in Florida who tried to encourage us to attend their church but after a polite but firm refusal of interest by us, it never happened again. During the guitar shop adventure I've met many people who perform at their church services. Some are "worship leaders". In fact my buddy who took over the shop is very religious and often plays at his church. Not once in the almost 5 years that I've known him has he ever tried to influence me with any of his beliefs and we've had many discussions about religion and faith in general. I have visited his church from time to time however, mainly because they have a killer 10,000 watt sound system that was installed by one of the church members who is also an acoustic engineer. The music played through the system sounds incredibly good and the engineer has helped me with some of the acoustic treatments for the new performance venue I am involved with. We live in an area that is far more "rural" than "cosmopolitan" Annapolis, even though the latter is only about 25 miles away. There are lots of churches down here. We probably get between six and nine home visits a year by "the church ladies," and, as I said, most of them are not offensive in any way. It's funny, but when I was growing up in New Haven and attending Sheridan Junior High, we'd end up playing basketball or kickball afterschool many afternoons in the recreation yard of the catholic church in the parish. It was pretty safe: the nuns kept an eye on everything and every so often several of the priests would come out to shoot some hoops. There never were any "religious" discussions initiated by the clergy there. I am sure, though, that if one of the kids wanted to discuss "faith issues," a nun or priest would have been glad to accommodate. Nowadays, too much of religion is "in your face." --------------------------------------------------- I guess it depends on how sensitive you are to it. I never feel any direct "in my face" religious influence by others. Our next door neighbors of 13 years are Baptists and she is an ordained minister at their church. He is an engineer at the Pilgram nuclear power plant. We see them often and there has never been an attempt by either of them to try to influence us with their beliefs nor by us in ours. Mention religion and Harry goes off half cocked with the safety off. But you seem to like it when someone talks about cock. |
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On 4/5/13 1:42 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:18:19 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 4/5/2013 9:50 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/5/13 9:21 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/5/13 8:02 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/5/2013 7:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... Well, they are just doing it because you came back for a few hours:) LOL! While you were gone they were on to whatever troll was relevant at the time. It's clear they are democrats and have no tolerance for anybody different. Why do you think the party in general works so hard to keep the poor down? Most of us lefties who are not "religious" have absolutely no objections to those who are religious and are courteous enough to not try to shove their religious beliefs in our faces. Certainly Tim is religious and certainly it is fine with me if he wants to discuss his beliefs here. It is only offensive when the religious try to directly or indirectly force those beliefs on those who believe differently or not at all. Here's an example. Several times a year, members of the community of the religious ring our doorbell. Most of the time, the callers simply ask if we'd like to come to their church services or events. Sometimes they will leave behind a flyer or brochure. We have no objection to that. But once or twice a year, we're called upon by proselytizers, pushy representatives of the religious who apparently are looking for converts. "Have you found Jesus?" "Don't you want to?" "We have a minister who is very good at speaking to non-believers." And much ore and far worse. The anti-abortionists are particularly disgusting. The latter are also the same people who try to use the legislative processes to force their beliefs onto the general public. Screw that and them. --------------------------------------------------- I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in many different states and countries, including two years in your general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The "conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since. Oh, we did have some neighbors in Florida who tried to encourage us to attend their church but after a polite but firm refusal of interest by us, it never happened again. During the guitar shop adventure I've met many people who perform at their church services. Some are "worship leaders". In fact my buddy who took over the shop is very religious and often plays at his church. Not once in the almost 5 years that I've known him has he ever tried to influence me with any of his beliefs and we've had many discussions about religion and faith in general. I have visited his church from time to time however, mainly because they have a killer 10,000 watt sound system that was installed by one of the church members who is also an acoustic engineer. The music played through the system sounds incredibly good and the engineer has helped me with some of the acoustic treatments for the new performance venue I am involved with. We live in an area that is far more "rural" than "cosmopolitan" Annapolis, even though the latter is only about 25 miles away. There are lots of churches down here. We probably get between six and nine home visits a year by "the church ladies," and, as I said, most of them are not offensive in any way. It's funny, but when I was growing up in New Haven and attending Sheridan Junior High, we'd end up playing basketball or kickball afterschool many afternoons in the recreation yard of the catholic church in the parish. It was pretty safe: the nuns kept an eye on everything and every so often several of the priests would come out to shoot some hoops. There never were any "religious" discussions initiated by the clergy there. I am sure, though, that if one of the kids wanted to discuss "faith issues," a nun or priest would have been glad to accommodate. Nowadays, too much of religion is "in your face." --------------------------------------------------- I guess it depends on how sensitive you are to it. I never feel any direct "in my face" religious influence by others. Our next door neighbors of 13 years are Baptists and she is an ordained minister at their church. He is an engineer at the Pilgram nuclear power plant. We see them often and there has never been an attempt by either of them to try to influence us with their beliefs nor by us in ours. Mention religion and Harry goes off half cocked with the safety off. But you seem to like it when someone talks about cock. Probably misses those gang showers when he was a deck paint chipper in the navy. |
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:38:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. ----------------------------------------------------------------- You *do* realize (don't you?) that your attitude and feelings about what other people believe in represents a somewhat extreme "religion" unto itself. Yes I do. But you realize that Tim was the one who started the BS about how Jesus has my number, right? But, that's your right. I look at it this way: The norms, values and the laws that emerge in different societies really have their roots in religion. You are not born with a distinction of right or wrong. Those are values that you acquire from your parents. schools and those who directly influence you during your programming years. But where did they get the roadmap? From their parents, schools and quite often church organizations. If you could keep tracing it back, where did the basic values originate from? I disagree with the original premise. I believe that religion has it's root as genetics and evolution, even demonstrated back in the hunter/gatherer ear. Communities for mutual benefit formed way before religion, way before language. Even animals demostrate compassion and similar. Religion is an artifact of evolution. True, the Bible is often misconstrued by those who try to interpret it and made worse by some zealots who feel it's their duty to educate everyone else with their interpretation. But the fundamentals are there from which the norms and values of our society are based and they aren't particular to any one religion. Same for the Koran and other major religion based "roadmaps". It is mostly misconstrued. A while back I happened to be reading something written by a lifelong atheist. I became interested because his skepticism about many of our religion based beliefs mirrored mine. Like him, I tend to need "proof" of things that I don't understand before I can accept them. In his case though, it became an obsession and he studied the origins of religion in vain, including the Christian Bible, seeking the proof he needed. Never found it. However, what he found was that many of the popular beliefs and conceptions held by believers didn't exist in the Bible either. I don't remember all the specific details, but I recall this: Due to our limited ability to comprehend the concept of a "God", the unknown or even the origin of the universe, we tend to put human terms on things. "God" is perceived by many as some dude sitting up in a place called heaven .... up in the sky ..... looking down on us and watching everything we do. But nowhere in the Bible does it come close to describing such a thing. The Bible describes "God" as a spirit .... not a super human. It's a feeling, not an entity and is expressed by faith. Well, ya see, that's the problem with trying to "prove" something. Science isn't like that. It's about producing verifiable evidence that always has an element of revision. Science says that while it's possible that god exists, the chances are very, very small. Your mileage may vary. Not if you're a good driver. |
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:03:05 -0500, amdx wrote:
On 4/1/2013 12:42 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:37:20 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:45:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:17:23 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:34:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the government to borrow more money and raise taxes more. There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it is unclear how they will ever pay it back. Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right. http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how. If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate? . I would not willingly put money in a Ponzi scheme in the first place. That's not even close to what I asked. If you are asking whether I will cash my SS checks, yes I will but I do wonder how they are actually getting the money. Unfortunately a lot of it is simply created out of thin air and I know that is the road to runaway inflation. Still not what I asked. The question was meaningless in this context. SS was never a loan or an investment. It was simply taxation into a pay as you go program with the government spending the surplus as ordinary revenue. After 1968 that was made clear when SS was put on budget. Now that program is not collecting enough to pay as they go and the government does not seem to have the will to tax at a rate to maintain the program. We borrow 40% of the shortfall right now. (or simply print money) They are not making the money to pay me back at all. They are simply passing debt on to my kids. It has a trust fund, and it's 100% solvent for 25 years. After that, 95%. A small fix, not the voucher system Ryan the Moron aka Ayn Rand wants. Yes, that trust fund is part of the 17 trillion in US debt. That means it has been spent. Our younger taxpayers will need to earn it again to pay for those in retirement. That means it will get earned twice and spent twice. Mikek Whew... looks like you're starting to have some brain foam. Take a ****in chill pill. I don't give a **** how stupid you are. You don't have to keep demonstrating it. I get it. |
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On Friday, April 5, 2013 9:21:59 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote:
I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in many different states and countries, including two years in your general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The "conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since. Those are my experiences as well. I've lived all my life in the "Bible Belt" in rural, "semi-rural" and urban settings, and can count on one hand the times that someone has actually come to my door or approached me promoting any religion. Almost every time it's happened they've been Mormons, and they are polite and leave after I tell them I'm not interested. Maybe some people just attract this type of thing? They look for those that need it most, you know... :-) |
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 15:55:47 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:31:58 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:58:47 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:44:34 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:03:28 -0400, wrote: Ok Mr. ****head. Is that your name? It's certainly your bull****. I think enough about my opinions that I sign them with my real name. Feel free to invite all the crazies to your house. I think enough about my and my family's well being to be a bit more prudent. Cowardly punk hiding in your basement spewing bull**** anonymously. That is why we don't really take you seriously. Yet you seem to. I wonder what that says about some guy who pretends to actually think but is in reality no better than the overtly racist, ignorant ****s that frequent this newsgroup. You're not much of a man, and apparently have no regard for your "cherished" family. My wife can kick your ass and I don't take you seriously in any way. What's your point? How many guys' asses has she kicked? Do you get a thrill out of it? Has she kicked yours? Is that how you know? You seem confident that no crazy person who doesn't like what you say won't just show up. Good for you. I prefer to use common sense and not publish my home address. |
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On 4/5/2013 8:29 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... My daughter is away at college. We went to parents weekend, tour the campus and go to a football game. My daughter invited us to tail-gate with the CSC (Catholic Student Center). Father Rob was telling us about the CSC and he made a point to ask us if we had seen the chapel and to tell us about the work they want to do in their chapel. Freaking Catholics, it doesn't matter where you go there is always a building fund. You know what they say about idle hands. The padres are just keeping the union bricklayers off the streets and out of mischief. |
Why we can't have good things
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 20:38:17 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:38:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: On Apr 5, 1:29 am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. ----------------------------------------------------------------- You *do* realize (don't you?) that your attitude and feelings about what other people believe in represents a somewhat extreme "religion" unto itself. Yes I do. But you realize that Tim was the one who started the BS about how Jesus has my number, right? If Jesus is just a fantasy and some old dead dude why do you get so animated about what Tim says? Great question! The answer is that the jesus bull**** is responsible for some seriously ****ed up ****. The people who claim to believe that jesus is god, don't actually do anything related to what he preached. Let's assume for a moment that he was at minimum a guy with some great ideas about how to treat people. If that's true, who today actually follows those principles? Hardly anyone. Certainly nobody in the public arena. Those people are a bunch of lunatics that don't even begin to understand the lessons jesus was teaching. You certainly don't and you've demonstrated that over and over. But, that's your right. I look at it this way: The norms, values and the laws that emerge in different societies really have their roots in religion. You are not born with a distinction of right or wrong. Those are values that you acquire from your parents. schools and those who directly influence you during your programming years. But where did they get the roadmap? From their parents, schools and quite often church organizations. If you could keep tracing it back, where did the basic values originate from? I disagree with the original premise. I believe that religion has it's root as genetics and evolution, even demonstrated back in the hunter/gatherer ear. Communities for mutual benefit formed way before religion, way before language. Even animals demostrate compassion and similar. Religion is an artifact of evolution. So you are an adherent of Intelligent Design, you just That bull****? No thanks. There was no god plan involved, and anyone familiar with how the universe works, even our crude understanding, knows better. True, the Bible is often misconstrued by those who try to interpret it and made worse by some zealots who feel it's their duty to educate everyone else with their interpretation. But the fundamentals are there from which the norms and values of our society are based and they aren't particular to any one religion. Same for the Koran and other major religion based "roadmaps". It is mostly misconstrued. A while back I happened to be reading something written by a lifelong atheist. I became interested because his skepticism about many of our religion based beliefs mirrored mine. Like him, I tend to need "proof" of things that I don't understand before I can accept them. In his case though, it became an obsession and he studied the origins of religion in vain, including the Christian Bible, seeking the proof he needed. Never found it. However, what he found was that many of the popular beliefs and conceptions held by believers didn't exist in the Bible either. I don't remember all the specific details, but I recall this: Due to our limited ability to comprehend the concept of a "God", the unknown or even the origin of the universe, we tend to put human terms on things. "God" is perceived by many as some dude sitting up in a place called heaven .... up in the sky ..... looking down on us and watching everything we do. But nowhere in the Bible does it come close to describing such a thing. The Bible describes "God" as a spirit .... not a super human. It's a feeling, not an entity and is expressed by faith. Well, ya see, that's the problem with trying to "prove" something. Science isn't like that. It's about producing verifiable evidence that always has an element of revision. Science says that while it's possible that god exists, the chances are very, very small. Why are scientists looking for the God particle and what created the God particle? Good ****ing grief. There is no "god particle". That's a made up name and has nothing to do with god. It's about how the universe holds itself together. Do yourself a favor and at least attempt a google search before you start down a road stupid and blindfolded. Your mileage may vary. Not if you're a good driver. |
Why we can't have good things
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 20:29:56 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Apr 5, 1:29*am, Urin Asshole wrote: And, **** Jesus while I'm at it. Or, rather **** what all the ****ing churches suppose Jesus was all about and DON'T promote. I have no use for dead people that other people fantasize about. It's really quite sick in the head. If anyone actually believes in a fantasy god and/or fantasy hell and thinks that "worship" or "faith" is going to fix them or anything, they are way more ****ed up and frankly more stupid that the lowliest creature. LOL! Somebody stick a crucifix in your face... My daughter is away at college. We went to parents weekend, tour the campus and go to a football game. My daughter invited us to tail-gate with the CSC (Catholic Student Center). Father Rob was telling us about the CSC and he made a point to ask us if we had seen the chapel and to tell us about the work they want to do in their chapel. Freaking Catholics, it doesn't matter where you go there is always a building fund. Maybe she'll smarten up and stay away when she graduates. |
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On 4/6/13 9:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Friday, April 5, 2013 9:21:59 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: I guess we must have led a very sheltered life despite having lived in many different states and countries, including two years in your general area (Annapolis, MD). In nearly 45 years we were only approached once by pushy, religious representatives trying to recruit or convert and that was in Zion, IL, back in 1972. The "conversation" lasted about 10 seconds and has never happened since. Those are my experiences as well. I've lived all my life in the "Bible Belt" in rural, "semi-rural" and urban settings, and can count on one hand the times that someone has actually come to my door or approached me promoting any religion. Almost every time it's happened they've been Mormons, and they are polite and leave after I tell them I'm not interested. Maybe some people just attract this type of thing? They look for those that need it most, you know... :-) Well, around here everyone must need it then, because we have people come door to door EVERY door, wanting to minister to you I'd say average every other weekend. We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. |
Why we can't have good things
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. --------------------------------------- Merrily we troll along .... troll along ..... troll along .... |
Why we can't have good things
On 4/6/13 10:44 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. --------------------------------------- Merrily we troll along .... troll along ..... troll along .... Saying that I don't mind the occasional callers trying to drum up Sunday business is trolling? |
Why we can't have good things
On 4/6/2013 10:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. You only open the door and say "Hi" to black people? Isn't that just a tad bit racist? |
Why we can't have good things
On 4/6/2013 10:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/6/13 10:44 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. --------------------------------------- Merrily we troll along .... troll along ..... troll along .... Saying that I don't mind the occasional callers trying to drum up Sunday business is trolling? Well, you did throw in the *black* qualifier a couple of times, Mr. Harry Krause the racist. |
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Why we can't have good things
On 4/4/2013 11:58 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:44:34 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:03:28 -0400, wrote: Ok Mr. ****head. Is that your name? It's certainly your bull****. I think enough about my opinions that I sign them with my real name. Feel free to invite all the crazies to your house. I think enough about my and my family's well being to be a bit more prudent. Cowardly punk hiding in your basement spewing bull**** anonymously. That is why we don't really take you seriously. Could we just start with his screen name. |
Why we can't have good things
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:32:09 -0500, amdx
wrote: On 4/4/2013 9:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:42:41 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Anecdotes don't "prove" much of anything Julie's flaw is she is using the current tax going forward. There is NO baby boomer who paid more than $104,000 between 1966 and 1996 (both employer and employee contribution) I have my SSA statement in my hand and I paid the max every one of those years. Prior to 96 the cap was $4800 and the tax rate was lower so those will be very small numbers. I agree a Gen Xer probably won't get back all he paid in and may not really get much of anything. Sorry. Don't point out Julie Morse's flaw. Urin Asshole is invested in what she wrote as the gospel and will not entertain any evidence that she could be wrong. Also did you find any way to contact her? I want her to set the record straight, but find no email or any way to subscribe to the webpage. SS payments are progressive, meaning the more you pay in the longer it takes to get it back, and the less you pay in the the shorter your payback time. Mikek PS Urin, please don't recycle the tired old names you've been calling me, be a little creative. :-) Ok. Go **** yourself. Do you feel better now? SS benefits are based on your highest earning 35 years. You don't know anything about how SS works. Yeah, if you pay in more it takes longer to get it all back. No ****. "Social Security was designed to redistribute income from those with higher lifetime earnings to those with lower lifetime earnings. The reason is obvious: the system was created to ensure an adequate retirement income for the elderly. Less obvious is how Social Security's many provisions interact to achieve redistribution. This Straight Talk summarizes the most comprehensive study of those interactions to date, concluding that less-educated, lower-income, and nonwhite groups benefit little or not at all from redistribution in the old age and survivors insurance (OASI) part of Social Security. However, there is substantial redistribution to women, who historically have had lower lifetime earnings than men. A succeeding Straight Talk will examine how the addition of disability insurance restores some progressivity.1 The Social Security program redistributes income in five major ways: 1.From richer workers to poorer workers through a progressive benefit formula that provides higher returns to the first dollars of worker earnings and lower returns to the last dollars;2 2.From shorter-lived groups (such as men and the less educated) to longer-lived groups (such as women and the better educated) through annuities whose lifetime value depends upon life expectancy; 3.From singles to married couples (and from higher earners to lower earners within couples) through spousal and survivors' benefits, paid as a pure transfer without any additional contributions required; 4.From the healthy to the disabled through disability benefits; and 5.From later generations to earlier generations, since earlier generations paid in at lower tax rates than later generations, yet receive benefits related to their prior earnings (rather than, as in private insurance, their actual contributions)." |
Why we can't have good things
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:33:21 -0500, amdx
wrote: Show yourself... please not in public. That's a metaphor. A metaphor or your way to dodge the question. Whatever. Fart some more in public if you think it makes you look smarter. |
Why we can't have good things
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:37:41 -0500, amdx
wrote: On 4/4/2013 11:58 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:44:34 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:03:28 -0400, wrote: Ok Mr. ****head. Is that your name? It's certainly your bull****. I think enough about my opinions that I sign them with my real name. Feel free to invite all the crazies to your house. I think enough about my and my family's well being to be a bit more prudent. Cowardly punk hiding in your basement spewing bull**** anonymously. That is why we don't really take you seriously. Could we just start with his screen name. Yeah, AMDX... what does that stand for... Am Mostly Dense eXactly. |
Why we can't have good things
On 4/6/2013 6:21 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:32:09 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/4/2013 9:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:42:41 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Anecdotes don't "prove" much of anything Julie's flaw is she is using the current tax going forward. There is NO baby boomer who paid more than $104,000 between 1966 and 1996 (both employer and employee contribution) I have my SSA statement in my hand and I paid the max every one of those years. Prior to 96 the cap was $4800 and the tax rate was lower so those will be very small numbers. I agree a Gen Xer probably won't get back all he paid in and may not really get much of anything. Sorry. Don't point out Julie Morse's flaw. Urin Asshole is invested in what she wrote as the gospel and will not entertain any evidence that she could be wrong. Also did you find any way to contact her? I want her to set the record straight, but find no email or any way to subscribe to the webpage. SS payments are progressive, meaning the more you pay in the longer it takes to get it back, and the less you pay in the the shorter your payback time. Mikek PS Urin, please don't recycle the tired old names you've been calling me, be a little creative. :-) Ok. Go **** yourself. Do you feel better now? SS benefits are based on your highest earning 35 years. You don't know anything about how SS works. Yeah, if you pay in more it takes longer to get it all back. No ****. You say I don't know anything about how SS works, and then go on with a long winded explanation to say SS is progressive. Odd, you agree with me but still make it an argument. Have a happy* day, Mikek * or spew anger all day if you want. |
Why we can't have good things
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:27:06 -0500, amdx
wrote: On 4/6/2013 6:21 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:32:09 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/4/2013 9:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:42:41 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Anecdotes don't "prove" much of anything Julie's flaw is she is using the current tax going forward. There is NO baby boomer who paid more than $104,000 between 1966 and 1996 (both employer and employee contribution) I have my SSA statement in my hand and I paid the max every one of those years. Prior to 96 the cap was $4800 and the tax rate was lower so those will be very small numbers. I agree a Gen Xer probably won't get back all he paid in and may not really get much of anything. Sorry. Don't point out Julie Morse's flaw. Urin Asshole is invested in what she wrote as the gospel and will not entertain any evidence that she could be wrong. Also did you find any way to contact her? I want her to set the record straight, but find no email or any way to subscribe to the webpage. SS payments are progressive, meaning the more you pay in the longer it takes to get it back, and the less you pay in the the shorter your payback time. Mikek PS Urin, please don't recycle the tired old names you've been calling me, be a little creative. :-) Ok. Go **** yourself. Do you feel better now? SS benefits are based on your highest earning 35 years. You don't know anything about how SS works. Yeah, if you pay in more it takes longer to get it all back. No ****. You say I don't know anything about how SS works, and then go on with a long winded explanation to say SS is progressive. Odd, you agree with me but still make it an argument. Have a happy* day, Mikek * or spew anger all day if you want. Long winded???? Compared to your bull**** number crunching that went on for 10 paragraphs? Stop being deliberately stupid. You don't need to go beyond natively stupid. |
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 01:53:34 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:44:12 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: My wife can kick your ass and I don't take you seriously in any way. What's your point? How many guys' asses has she kicked? More than a few. Is she pretending to be a guy now? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 11:29:58 -0400, Hank© wrote:
On 4/6/2013 10:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/6/13 10:44 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. --------------------------------------- Merrily we troll along .... troll along ..... troll along .... Saying that I don't mind the occasional callers trying to drum up Sunday business is trolling? Well, you did throw in the *black* qualifier a couple of times, Mr. Harry Krause the racist. No, no. He can say whatever he wants. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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On 4/7/2013 12:39 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:27:06 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/6/2013 6:21 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:32:09 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/4/2013 9:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:42:41 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Anecdotes don't "prove" much of anything Julie's flaw is she is using the current tax going forward. There is NO baby boomer who paid more than $104,000 between 1966 and 1996 (both employer and employee contribution) I have my SSA statement in my hand and I paid the max every one of those years. Prior to 96 the cap was $4800 and the tax rate was lower so those will be very small numbers. I agree a Gen Xer probably won't get back all he paid in and may not really get much of anything. Sorry. Don't point out Julie Morse's flaw. Urin Asshole is invested in what she wrote as the gospel and will not entertain any evidence that she could be wrong. Also did you find any way to contact her? I want her to set the record straight, but find no email or any way to subscribe to the webpage. SS payments are progressive, meaning the more you pay in the longer it takes to get it back, and the less you pay in the the shorter your payback time. Mikek PS Urin, please don't recycle the tired old names you've been calling me, be a little creative. :-) Ok. Go **** yourself. Do you feel better now? SS benefits are based on your highest earning 35 years. You don't know anything about how SS works. Yeah, if you pay in more it takes longer to get it all back. No ****. You say I don't know anything about how SS works, and then go on with a long winded explanation to say SS is progressive. Odd, you agree with me but still make it an argument. Have a happy* day, Mikek * or spew anger all day if you want. Long winded???? Compared to your bull**** number crunching that went on for 10 paragraphs? Oh, sorry if I offended you. Mikek |
Why we can't have good things
On 4/6/2013 6:23 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:37:41 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/4/2013 11:58 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:44:34 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:03:28 -0400, wrote: Ok Mr. ****head. Is that your name? It's certainly your bull****. I think enough about my opinions that I sign them with my real name. Feel free to invite all the crazies to your house. I think enough about my and my family's well being to be a bit more prudent. Cowardly punk hiding in your basement spewing bull**** anonymously. That is why we don't really take you seriously. Could we just start with his screen name. Yeah, AMDX... what does that stand for... Am Mostly Dense eXactly. Sorry, buy that's not really very clever, I wouldn't mention it but you were trying to be. Mikek trying |
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On 4/7/13 2:05 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 01:53:34 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:44:12 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: My wife can kick your ass and I don't take you seriously in any way. What's your point? How many guys' asses has she kicked? More than a few. Is she pretending to be a guy now? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Are you? |
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On 4/7/13 2:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 11:29:58 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 4/6/2013 10:48 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/6/13 10:44 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... We used to see the active proselytizers at the front door several times a month when we lived in the south, but not so much here. If the doorbell rings during the day, the odds are the callers are from a local church whose members are out trying to drum up business for Sunday. I don't mind that. If the "door cam" tells me they're black, I'll usually answer and open the door and say hello, because I know a few of the black ministers down here and it is likely the callers are from one of those churches. --------------------------------------- Merrily we troll along .... troll along ..... troll along .... Saying that I don't mind the occasional callers trying to drum up Sunday business is trolling? Well, you did throw in the *black* qualifier a couple of times, Mr. Harry Krause the racist. No, no. He can say whatever he wants. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. In my experience, the black church people who knock on doors here aren't looking for converts, but the white church people are. I find proselytizers disgusting. |
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On 4/7/2013 4:01 PM, amdx wrote:
Could we just start with his screen name. Yeah, AMDX... what does that stand for... Am Mostly Dense eXactly. Sorry, buy that's not really very clever, I wouldn't mention it but you were trying to be. Mikek kevin has never been that sharp anyway... he draws what they tell him to draw, using the constraints of what they have told him to use... It's like putting together a model car, you just take the pieces and put them in place... |
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On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:18:23 -0500, amdx wrote:
On 4/7/2013 12:39 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:27:06 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/6/2013 6:21 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:32:09 -0500, amdx wrote: On 4/4/2013 9:14 PM, wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:42:41 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Anecdotes don't "prove" much of anything Julie's flaw is she is using the current tax going forward. There is NO baby boomer who paid more than $104,000 between 1966 and 1996 (both employer and employee contribution) I have my SSA statement in my hand and I paid the max every one of those years. Prior to 96 the cap was $4800 and the tax rate was lower so those will be very small numbers. I agree a Gen Xer probably won't get back all he paid in and may not really get much of anything. Sorry. Don't point out Julie Morse's flaw. Urin Asshole is invested in what she wrote as the gospel and will not entertain any evidence that she could be wrong. Also did you find any way to contact her? I want her to set the record straight, but find no email or any way to subscribe to the webpage. SS payments are progressive, meaning the more you pay in the longer it takes to get it back, and the less you pay in the the shorter your payback time. Mikek PS Urin, please don't recycle the tired old names you've been calling me, be a little creative. :-) Ok. Go **** yourself. Do you feel better now? SS benefits are based on your highest earning 35 years. You don't know anything about how SS works. Yeah, if you pay in more it takes longer to get it all back. No ****. You say I don't know anything about how SS works, and then go on with a long winded explanation to say SS is progressive. Odd, you agree with me but still make it an argument. Have a happy* day, Mikek * or spew anger all day if you want. Long winded???? Compared to your bull**** number crunching that went on for 10 paragraphs? Oh, sorry if I offended you. Mikek So, you're just ****ing stupid. That's not offensive. That's sad. |
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