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J Herring April 3rd 13 07:19 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:46:51 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:34 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.


Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait


It was explained to me that the reason a Ruger KP90 does not have a
safety is it is for cops transitioning from a revolver. Where the
safety would be, it has a decocker.

I usually train from the decocked position to be used to the double
action trigger pull.


The P250 is a double action only pistol, so it's easy to train on double action with it!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 07:23 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?

Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?

Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.

J Herring April 3rd 13 07:24 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?


If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?

Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?

Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


J Herring April 3rd 13 07:25 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:55:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:53 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:05:17 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:22:35 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/29/2013 11:54 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Why we can't have good things… (continued)

http://tinyurl.com/ckot44q




Half of Christians Think Jesus Will Return Within 40 Years
Christian views in America on the return of Christ.

You can be a good conservative without being a Christian.

You might note this NPR article, Christians are about equally split
between liberal and conservative.

Why we can't have good things?

We can have good things! Most do.

What good things are you missing? This is a serious question.

If you're not lazy or a dimwit, it's not all that difficult to
have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek

The good thing ESAD is missing is friendship. He spends his life putting down others. He needs to
get out on the golf course, which is where I'd be if it weren't for the damn dentist!!


Salmonbait


You've got plenty of bat**** crazy friends. You should be really
happy!


Crazy and trashy.


Call them names...but they're friends. I'm sure you and Urine are quite the good buddies, along with
Donnie, of course!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 07:26 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 2:25 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:55:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



The good thing ESAD is missing is friendship. He spends his life putting down others. He needs to
get out on the golf course, which is where I'd be if it weren't for the damn dentist!!


Salmonbait

You've got plenty of bat**** crazy friends. You should be really
happy!


Crazy and trashy.


Call them names...but they're friends. I'm sure you and Urine are quite the good buddies, along with
Donnie, of course!


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



My guess is that Tim is the only worthwhile, decent friend you have
here, and Tim certain is a decent guy. Your "friends" PsychoSnotty, BAR,
FlaJim/Mired, et cetera, are conservatrash worth avoiding, just like you.

Don's a really decent, caring guying. No wonder you don't like him.



J Herring April 3rd 13 07:28 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?

Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?

Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.


They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 07:32 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 2:28 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.


They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Yeah, sure. I'm sure the conservatrash believes you.

J Herring April 3rd 13 07:38 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:32:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:28 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.


They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Yeah, sure. I'm sure the conservatrash believes you.


Prove me wrong! Should be easy for one with your knowledge and abilities.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 07:48 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 2:38 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:32:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:28 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.

They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Yeah, sure. I'm sure the conservatrash believes you.


Prove me wrong! Should be easy for one with your knowledge and abilities.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I am just not that interested in you or your idiotic nonsense, herring.



J Herring April 3rd 13 08:22 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:48:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:38 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:32:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:28 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.

They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Yeah, sure. I'm sure the conservatrash believes you.


Prove me wrong! Should be easy for one with your knowledge and abilities.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I am just not that interested in you or your idiotic nonsense, herring.


Yet you respond to every post. EASD, you're transparent as hell, and know about as much as Donnie
about handguns.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 08:30 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 3:22 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:48:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:38 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:32:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:28 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.

They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Yeah, sure. I'm sure the conservatrash believes you.

Prove me wrong! Should be easy for one with your knowledge and abilities.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I am just not that interested in you or your idiotic nonsense, herring.


Yet you respond to every post. EASD, you're transparent as hell, and know about as much as Donnie
about handguns.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Hehehe. Keep on dreaming, fishbait.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 3rd 13 08:31 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.


Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait


Shoot yourself, please.

iBoaterer[_3_] April 3rd 13 08:32 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
In article ,
says...

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.


Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?


Man, he's gone as bat**** insane as Scotty!!!

iBoaterer[_3_] April 3rd 13 08:33 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?

Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?

Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait


You ARE Scotty, you can wiggle and lie your way out just like him!

HankŠ[_2_] April 3rd 13 09:14 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/2013 2:32 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/3/13 2:28 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:23:16 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable,
computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats,
clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes,
VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas,
wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health
insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable
radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table
saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump,
water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are
you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my
revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy
yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I
posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that,
after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just
why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Already told you, Herring. Not interested in playing your moronic game.

And all your responses immediately above are bull****.


They may, to you ESAD, be bull****, but they are *true*. That's the
big difference.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Yeah, sure. I'm sure the conservatrash believes you.


As a former high ranking military man he is certainly more believable
than say a civilian who spent his time in Vietnam under a general.

HankŠ[_2_] April 3rd 13 09:31 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/2013 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?

Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?

Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.

amdx[_2_] April 3rd 13 09:53 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/2013 11:59 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 4/3/13 12:22 PM, amdx wrote:
On 3/29/2013 11:54 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Why we can't have good things? (continued)

http://tinyurl.com/ckot44q




Half of Christians Think Jesus Will Return Within 40 Years
Christian views in America on the return of Christ.

You can be a good conservative without being a Christian.

You might note this NPR article, Christians are about equally split
between liberal and conservative.

Why we can't have good things?

We can have good things! Most do.

What good things are you missing? This is a serious question.

If you're not lazy or a dimwit, it's not all that difficult to
have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.


You have to remember, the conservative's idea of "good things" are all
things that money can buy, and especially when the money comes from
political action groups.

Not at all,
What is he missing?
Does he lack love?
Is his health bad?
Is he hungry?
Does he not have freedom of religion?
Can he travel freely?
Is he homeless?
We have the right to pursue happiness not the guarantee of happiness.
I want to know, What is he missing?
Mikek



amdx[_2_] April 3rd 13 10:05 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 3/29/2013 7:15 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:16:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:


What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.


The don't have to "pay it back". It's a trust fund. Do you need me to
tell you to look it up?


How far do you have to go back to actually see the federal government
paying down a dime of the debt?
(hint: new cars had tail fins)

Which has nothing to do with anything.

Medicare is in worse shape, but not catastrophically so... and again,
it will be decades before it becomes so. A fix is indicated, but not
on the backs of middle and lower income.

There are not enough rich people to save these programs, who do you
think will have to pay?

You're just being deliberately dense. The worst thing we can right now
is make middle and lower income families pay more. When the economy
recovers, then the middle income families will be able to afford to
help a bit more.


If you took every dime from the Forbes 400, it would run SS for about
175 days.
The middle class is going to have to pay more, at least the Clinton
tax rates and maybe even the Reagan tax rates.


Which has nothing to do with anything. Feel free to hide under your
house if you're that afraid.


http://www.nasi.org/learn/medicare/financial-problems

$32 billion out of whack 3 years ago ... What I said.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3130421

Do you really think medical care will ever cost less?

Don't know. I do know that the rate of increase can be slowed. It
doesn't need to exceed inflation the way it does.

But you know, right?


I can look at the trends.


Feel free. The US has been solvent and paid it's debts since the
1700s.

Well fine, let's see us pay off the 17 trillion debt.
If our debt was called today, we would be insolvent.
The problem for our debtees, is we are to big to force us
into insolvency.
Mikek

amdx[_2_] April 3rd 13 10:13 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 3/30/2013 8:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:


What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.


If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they
made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate?
.


They (the US gov) is not paying it back. We 51% hardworking tax paying
Americans are paying the interest on the debt, at the same time we are
paying money and providing services to the 30% that can't take care of
themselves. That's not legitimate, everyone that votes should have skin
in the game. You should not be able to vote my money into your pocket.
Mikek



amdx[_2_] April 3rd 13 10:18 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 3/30/2013 4:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:17:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:34:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.

If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they
made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate?
.

I would not willingly put money in a Ponzi scheme in the first place.


That's not even close to what I asked.


If you are asking whether I will cash my SS checks, yes I will but I
do wonder how they are actually getting the money. Unfortunately a lot
of it is simply created out of thin air and I know that is the road to
runaway inflation.

Most of the poor and the middle class will get more back from SS then
they paid in. Myself, should get it all back in about 7* years, the next
14 are on your kids back.

*does not factor in inflation.

J Herring April 3rd 13 10:39 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ wrote:

On 4/3/2013 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?

Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?

Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb safety is unused, and therefore
useless.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 10:48 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 5:39 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ wrote:

On 4/3/2013 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb safety is unused, and therefore
useless.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


No, John, it is not unused, nor am I in a corner. If you bothered to try
to understand what you read, you'd realize I offered up *one* way to use
the thumb safety on a pistol. There are others. But I told you I'd offer
one way. And that's all you got, and all you are getting, no matter how
many times you and your buddy FlaJim/Meyer/Hank fluff each other.

Eisboch[_8_] April 3rd 13 11:06 PM

Why we can't have good things
 


"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ
wrote:



I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right
or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

----------------------------------------

John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do
not have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used
much in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few
times I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty
and the thumb safety is "on". People will disagree, but I feel it is
safer that way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the
time it would take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be
a matter of a second or two.




J Herring April 3rd 13 11:12 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:48:46 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 5:39 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ wrote:

On 4/3/2013 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable, computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats, clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes, VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas, wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump, water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that, after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb safety is unused, and therefore
useless.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


No, John, it is not unused, nor am I in a corner. If you bothered to try
to understand what you read, you'd realize I offered up *one* way to use
the thumb safety on a pistol. There are others. But I told you I'd offer
one way. And that's all you got, and all you are getting, no matter how
many times you and your buddy FlaJim/Meyer/Hank fluff each other.


Go back and read your own essay, ESAD. You presented the way you use your safety.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 3rd 13 11:19 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 6:06 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ wrote:



I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

----------------------------------------

John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do not
have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used much
in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few times
I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty and the
thumb safety is "on". People will disagree, but I feel it is safer that
way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the time it would
take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be a matter of a
second or two.




I've carried outside of the house with a round in the pipe and the
safety on. I've only done that a few times under special circumstances.
When I do carry, typically, I have a mag inserted but I haven't yet
racked the slide, so there's no need to use the safety. I have a belt
carry holster so when I do carry, I have to wear a jacket to keep the
firearm covered. It's a custom molded holster, and while it holds the
weapon snugly, the trigger guard is completely free of the holster. It's
not an expensive holster. I think it was about $75.

Urin Asshole April 4th 13 12:03 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:18:05 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/30/2013 4:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:17:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:34:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.

If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they
made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate?
.

I would not willingly put money in a Ponzi scheme in the first place.

That's not even close to what I asked.


If you are asking whether I will cash my SS checks, yes I will but I
do wonder how they are actually getting the money. Unfortunately a lot
of it is simply created out of thin air and I know that is the road to
runaway inflation.

Most of the poor and the middle class will get more back from SS then
they paid in. Myself, should get it all back in about 7* years, the next
14 are on your kids back.

*does not factor in inflation.


Complete bull****. Stop listening to fox.

http://open.salon.com/blog/sickofstu..._you_t o_know

Urin Asshole April 4th 13 12:04 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:13:03 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/30/2013 8:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.


If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they
made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate?
.


They (the US gov) is not paying it back. We 51% hardworking tax paying
Americans are paying the interest on the debt, at the same time we are
paying money and providing services to the 30% that can't take care of
themselves. That's not legitimate, everyone that votes should have skin
in the game. You should not be able to vote my money into your pocket.
Mikek


You ****head. Those who can't pay CAN'T PAY. The skin they have in the
game IS THEIR SKIN.

Urin Asshole April 4th 13 12:08 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:05:29 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/29/2013 7:15 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:16:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.


The don't have to "pay it back". It's a trust fund. Do you need me to
tell you to look it up?


How far do you have to go back to actually see the federal government
paying down a dime of the debt?
(hint: new cars had tail fins)

Which has nothing to do with anything.

Medicare is in worse shape, but not catastrophically so... and again,
it will be decades before it becomes so. A fix is indicated, but not
on the backs of middle and lower income.

There are not enough rich people to save these programs, who do you
think will have to pay?

You're just being deliberately dense. The worst thing we can right now
is make middle and lower income families pay more. When the economy
recovers, then the middle income families will be able to afford to
help a bit more.

If you took every dime from the Forbes 400, it would run SS for about
175 days.
The middle class is going to have to pay more, at least the Clinton
tax rates and maybe even the Reagan tax rates.


Which has nothing to do with anything. Feel free to hide under your
house if you're that afraid.


http://www.nasi.org/learn/medicare/financial-problems

$32 billion out of whack 3 years ago ... What I said.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3130421

Do you really think medical care will ever cost less?

Don't know. I do know that the rate of increase can be slowed. It
doesn't need to exceed inflation the way it does.

But you know, right?

I can look at the trends.


Feel free. The US has been solvent and paid it's debts since the
1700s.

Well fine, let's see us pay off the 17 trillion debt.
If our debt was called today, we would be insolvent.
The problem for our debtees, is we are to big to force us
into insolvency.
Mikek


You ****ing moron. Most of the "debt" is held by Americans.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...it-isnt-china/

Jesus you people are ignorant. Even fox gets it right.

Eisboch[_8_] April 4th 13 12:13 AM

Why we can't have good things
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 4/3/13 6:06 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ
wrote:



I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right
or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

----------------------------------------

John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding
that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do
not
have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used
much
in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with
a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few
times
I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty and
the
thumb safety is "on". People will disagree, but I feel it is safer
that
way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the time it
would
take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be a matter of
a
second or two.




I've carried outside of the house with a round in the pipe and the
safety on. I've only done that a few times under special
circumstances.
When I do carry, typically, I have a mag inserted but I haven't yet
racked the slide, so there's no need to use the safety. I have a belt
carry holster so when I do carry, I have to wear a jacket to keep the
firearm covered. It's a custom molded holster, and while it holds the
weapon snugly, the trigger guard is completely free of the holster.
It's
not an expensive holster. I think it was about $75.

------------------------------------------

Yup, your method is a very common one. I elect to also use the thumb
safety just for an extra measure. Makes me think about what I am
doing.
For example, the S&W BG 380 "Bodyguard" is made such that you cannot
rack the slide with the thumb safety on. So, to use it you must flip
the safety off, rack the slide and it's ready to fire. The Walther
on the other hand *can* be racked with the safety (or decocker) "on",
but you still have to flip the safety/decocker to "off" for the
trigger to fire the gun. It's really what you get used to doing.

I tried several belt holsters for both. I have a nice leather one
for the Walther but since I got the Bodyguard, it feels like a lead
weight.
I have two for the Bodyguard. One is a belt type, but the one I like
the best is a simple De Santis pocket holster. The Bodyguard is so
small and light it can be comfortably carried in your pants pocket or
an inside pocket of your jacket.




F.O.A.D. April 4th 13 12:25 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 7:13 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 4/3/13 6:06 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ
wrote:



I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

----------------------------------------

John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do not
have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used much
in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few times
I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty and the
thumb safety is "on". People will disagree, but I feel it is safer that
way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the time it would
take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be a matter of a
second or two.




I've carried outside of the house with a round in the pipe and the
safety on. I've only done that a few times under special circumstances.
When I do carry, typically, I have a mag inserted but I haven't yet
racked the slide, so there's no need to use the safety. I have a belt
carry holster so when I do carry, I have to wear a jacket to keep the
firearm covered. It's a custom molded holster, and while it holds the
weapon snugly, the trigger guard is completely free of the holster. It's
not an expensive holster. I think it was about $75.

------------------------------------------

Yup, your method is a very common one. I elect to also use the thumb
safety just for an extra measure. Makes me think about what I am doing.
For example, the S&W BG 380 "Bodyguard" is made such that you cannot
rack the slide with the thumb safety on. So, to use it you must flip
the safety off, rack the slide and it's ready to fire. The Walther on
the other hand *can* be racked with the safety (or decocker) "on", but
you still have to flip the safety/decocker to "off" for the trigger to
fire the gun. It's really what you get used to doing.

I tried several belt holsters for both. I have a nice leather one for
the Walther but since I got the Bodyguard, it feels like a lead weight.
I have two for the Bodyguard. One is a belt type, but the one I like
the best is a simple De Santis pocket holster. The Bodyguard is so
small and light it can be comfortably carried in your pants pocket or an
inside pocket of your jacket.




I'm pretty sure I can't turn the thumb safety on on my CZ unless the
hammer is in the firing position but on my Ruger Mark III, I can flip
the safety on or off no matter what. I'll have to check that, though.

Eisboch[_8_] April 4th 13 12:45 AM

Why we can't have good things
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I'm pretty sure I can't turn the thumb safety on on my CZ unless the
hammer is in the firing position but on my Ruger Mark III, I can flip
the safety on or off no matter what. I'll have to check that, though.

--------------------------------------------------

Sounds like the CZ is a decocker only. Makes sense.

When I took the safety course we used the instructor provided Glock
9mm and his Ruger Mark II .22LR.
I like them both but sure enough, neither one (the newer Ruger Mark
III or the Glock) are MA compliant.



F.O.A.D. April 4th 13 12:48 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/13 7:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I'm pretty sure I can't turn the thumb safety on on my CZ unless the
hammer is in the firing position but on my Ruger Mark III, I can flip
the safety on or off no matter what. I'll have to check that, though.

--------------------------------------------------

Sounds like the CZ is a decocker only. Makes sense.

When I took the safety course we used the instructor provided Glock 9mm
and his Ruger Mark II .22LR.
I like them both but sure enough, neither one (the newer Ruger Mark III
or the Glock) are MA compliant.



No, you cannot operate the trigger or the hammer when the thumb safety
is on.



HankŠ[_2_] April 4th 13 12:53 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/2013 5:48 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/3/13 5:39 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ
wrote:

On 4/3/2013 2:24 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:47:13 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:42 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 4/3/13 1:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:34:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:


have a home, plenty of food, a car or three, 3 TVs, cable,
computer,
internet, air conditioning, washer dryer, bicycles, boats,
clothes,
shoes, hand tools, fishing poles, cupboard full of dishes,
VCRs, hobby
materials, electronic test equipment, electricity, stove,
storage shed/work shop, furniture, freezer, money for gas,
wifi radio,
communication receiver, fax machine, cordless phone, health
insurance,
HSA SEP, riding mower, push mower, electric gokart, portable
radio,
books, binoculars, sewing machines, storage cabinets, table
saw, jig
saw, band saw, greenhouse, irrigation system, water pump,
water/sewer,
living close to local consumer services.


Please add to the list and tell me what good things are
you missing.


Mikek



The phrase typically does not refer to those sorts of things.

Does it refer to safeties on handguns? You know, neither of my
revolvers, one of which is the
"Highway Patrolman" has a safety. They must be 'bad' guns, huh?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy
yet? Or
whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40? Or
whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?

If I were in your shoes I'd be doing the same thing.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I learned this trick from you:

Have you figured out the difference between polymer and alloy yet?
Absolutely! That was a rhetorical question for Tim.

Or whether you should winterize your outboard's innards with WD 40?
Absolutely! That was a comment made by a Dutch mechanic which I
posted for comments. Got 'em too!

Or whether you should use two cycle oil in your four stroke outboard?
That was never an issue. One of our other readers questioned that,
after misreading a post.

Now, see how easy that was? Perhaps you'd care to expound on just
why you put the safety on after
loading a round on the range. Do you stand around and bull****?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


No, John, it is not unused, nor am I in a corner. If you bothered to try
to understand what you read, you'd realize I offered up *one* way to use
the thumb safety on a pistol. There are others. But I told you I'd offer
one way. And that's all you got, and all you are getting, no matter how
many times you and your buddy FlaJim/Meyer/Hank fluff each other.


That's enough. Now that we have you side stepping and qualifying your
statements with here to fore unmentioned differences in weapons that
might alter conditions and readiness. But the valid question that John
asked of you remains unanswered.
You are just a windbag and a poser Krause.


HankŠ[_2_] April 4th 13 12:58 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/2013 6:19 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/3/13 6:06 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ
wrote:



I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

----------------------------------------

John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do not
have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used much
in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few times
I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty and the
thumb safety is "on". People will disagree, but I feel it is safer that
way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the time it would
take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be a matter of a
second or two.




I've carried outside of the house with a round in the pipe and the
safety on. I've only done that a few times under special circumstances.
When I do carry, typically, I have a mag inserted but I haven't yet
racked the slide, so there's no need to use the safety. I have a belt
carry holster so when I do carry, I have to wear a jacket to keep the
firearm covered. It's a custom molded holster, and while it holds the
weapon snugly, the trigger guard is completely free of the holster. It's
not an expensive holster. I think it was about $75.


Scary Bananas Krausie baby. One of the obvious reasons to holser a
weapon is to protect the trigger guard from obstacles like fingers and such.

Urin Asshole April 4th 13 03:17 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:48:10 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:52:45 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:43:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:06:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:39:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:58:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 23:51:08 -0400,
wrote:


It is running a $85 billion dollar deficit and no plan to fix it,. How
is that not an immediate problem?


$85B? Why does that number sound familiar? I know, I know. It's the
big oil subsidy. Eliminate that, and we're good to go. What's more
important, big oil getting money it doesn't need or people getting
their Social Security? Hmmmm....

Cite that.

I lied. $52B in direct subsidized costs, plus $1.6T in related costs
of the fossil fuel industry.
http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/

... or $10B

"In the United States, credible estimates of annual fossil fuel
subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually,"

Nice cherry picking tho.



So the range, without underlying infrastructre and related cost, per
year is, let's say in the middle... $32B. That of course, won't help
the Social Security situation if it were funneled to it. Is that what
you're claiming? Nice try.


When you read what they are trying to include in the "oil subsidy"
like keeping the shipping lanes are open you understand we would be
spending that money anyway.
The real subsidies are going to wind and solar and they are direct
payments or tax credits


So, you're claiming that all the big oil subsidies and all the
infrastructure that supports that is somehow equal to the paltry sums
that are used to subsidize wind/solar, two technologies that don't
pollute nearly as much and are completely renewable. Good god you're
so amazingly either right wing crazy or deliberately stupid just so
you can "win" the argument in your little brain (because you can't
"win" the argument with anyone who spends more than five minutes
looking up the actual facts).

Wayne B April 4th 13 03:28 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:06:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The few
times I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty


===

Unless you are doing law enforcement work I think that's a good
strategy. I'd argue that without a round in the chamber, you don't
even need the safety.

amdx April 4th 13 03:33 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/3/2013 6:03 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:18:05 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/30/2013 4:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:17:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:34:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.

If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they
made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate?
.

I would not willingly put money in a Ponzi scheme in the first place.

That's not even close to what I asked.

If you are asking whether I will cash my SS checks, yes I will but I
do wonder how they are actually getting the money. Unfortunately a lot
of it is simply created out of thin air and I know that is the road to
runaway inflation.

Most of the poor and the middle class will get more back from SS then
they paid in. Myself, should get it all back in about 7* years, the next
14 are on your kids back.

*does not factor in inflation.


Complete bull****. Stop listening to fox.

http://open.salon.com/blog/sickofstu..._you_t o_know

Reread the article with this in mind, "will get more back from SS then
THEY paid in" You will then find what I said is true.
Also, I've been paying for about 40 years, I didn't make anywhere near
$50.000 for many of those years and I'll get 30% more than the article
states. If you started today, made $50,000 every year for 45 years, your
check would be way more than $1200 a month. The numbers are just plain
wrong.
Mikek

Urin Asshole April 4th 13 05:51 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 21:33:02 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 4/3/2013 6:03 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:18:05 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 3/30/2013 4:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:17:23 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:34:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:16:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:45:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

What "facts"? The whole program is based on the ability of the
government to borrow more money and raise taxes more.
There is no "trust funds" they spent every dime of that money and it
is unclear how they will ever pay it back.

Feel free to dispute the facts. That don't make you right.

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html

That demonstrates that the federal government spent all of the surplus
and they promise to pay it back but they have not said how.

If you loan someone or some entity money, do you really care how they
made the money to pay you back as long as it's legitimate?
.

I would not willingly put money in a Ponzi scheme in the first place.

That's not even close to what I asked.

If you are asking whether I will cash my SS checks, yes I will but I
do wonder how they are actually getting the money. Unfortunately a lot
of it is simply created out of thin air and I know that is the road to
runaway inflation.

Most of the poor and the middle class will get more back from SS then
they paid in. Myself, should get it all back in about 7* years, the next
14 are on your kids back.

*does not factor in inflation.


Complete bull****. Stop listening to fox.

http://open.salon.com/blog/sickofstu..._you_t o_know

Reread the article with this in mind, "will get more back from SS then
THEY paid in" You will then find what I said is true.
Also, I've been paying for about 40 years, I didn't make anywhere near
$50.000 for many of those years and I'll get 30% more than the article
states. If you started today, made $50,000 every year for 45 years, your
check would be way more than $1200 a month. The numbers are just plain
wrong.
Mikek


You are a ****ing idiot. It's quite clear that you have no interest in
actual facts. Feel free to live in your fox-induced illusion.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute April 4th 13 11:23 AM

Why we can't have good things
 
On 4/4/2013 2:00 AM, wrote:


So, you're claiming that all the big oil subsidies and all the
infrastructure that supports that is somehow equal to the paltry sums
that are used to subsidize wind/solar, two technologies that don't
pollute nearly as much and are completely renewable.


Complete bull****... Solar pollutes way more than fraking. Look at
China, near the manufacturing plants.


J Herring April 4th 13 01:11 PM

Why we can't have good things
 
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:06:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"J Herring" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0400, HankŠ
wrote:



I'd keep pressing him until he gives you a thoughtful answer, right
or
wrong.


He backed himself into a corner. He'd have to admit that his thumb
safety is unused, and therefore
useless.

----------------------------------------

John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under the understanding that
you do all your live round gun handling at a shooting range. You do
not have a permit for concealed carry. Is that correct?


Not all my shooting is at a shooting range. I do have a permit for concealed carry.

The reason I ask is because I think it depends on what you are doing
with regard to a safety. At the range a thumb safety isn't used
much in the normal protocol of shooting but if you carry, it may be.


If I carried with a round in the chamber it would be because I was in a situation where I thought I
needed to do so...say walking the streets of Chicago at 2 o'clock AM or strolling the back roads of
Prince Georges County, MD, at the same time. If I had to draw the weapon, my finger would not be in
the trigger guard until I was ready to pull the trigger. I would not use a holster with the
flexibility to shoot the pistol, nor would I keep Sharpies, or other similar objects, in the
holster.

Some people carry with the safety off. Some with it on. Some with a
round in the chamber, some with the chamber empty. Me? The few
times I carry, I have a full clip inserted, but the chamber is empty
and the thumb safety is "on".


That's good. But, if there is no round in the chamber then there is really no need to have the
safety on. A little extra precaution never hurt, however.

People will disagree, but I feel it is
safer that way, for me and for others. If I ever had to use it, the
time it would take to snap the safety off and rack the slide would be
a matter of a second or two.


If I ever had to use the P250, it would, as you say, take only a second or two to rack the slide.

My comments to Harry were based on his essay safeties and conditions. I won't regurgitate.


Salmonbait

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