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Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." The kid wasn't armed, was drunk and a neighbor from two doors down. This is what Merika has come to... "A teenager who was shot and killed in Sterling, Virginia over the weekend may have accidentally entered the wrong home after a night of drinking. Law enforcement officials told The Washington Post that the drunk teen had been dropped off by friends at a house just two doors down from where he lived. Both houses were two story, red brick homes and on the same side of the street. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office refused to release the names of anyone involved, and only described the shooting as an unknown intruder being killed by a homeowner. According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. Real estate records indicated that the shooting occurred in the home of Donald West Wilder II. Neighbor Joanna Roman described him as “a great neighbor, a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others.” On Monday, the sheriff’s office confirmed to WUSA that the male teen had been a student at Park View High School student. A school official told WRC that grief counselors would be available to students on Monday. “This is freaking us out when we see a lot of cop cars and media are here,” the school official said. A 22-year-old Columbian immigrant was shot and killed earlier this year when he arrived to pick up a friend at the wrong home because of faulty GPS directions." |
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Breaking and entering in the nighttime is punishable by death. Harry
will tell you that. On 3/18/2013 12:09 PM, jps wrote: Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." The kid wasn't armed, was drunk and a neighbor from two doors down. This is what Merika has come to... "A teenager who was shot and killed in Sterling, Virginia over the weekend may have accidentally entered the wrong home after a night of drinking. Law enforcement officials told The Washington Post that the drunk teen had been dropped off by friends at a house just two doors down from where he lived. Both houses were two story, red brick homes and on the same side of the street. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office refused to release the names of anyone involved, and only described the shooting as an unknown intruder being killed by a homeowner. According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. Real estate records indicated that the shooting occurred in the home of Donald West Wilder II. Neighbor Joanna Roman described him as “a great neighbor, a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others.” On Monday, the sheriff’s office confirmed to WUSA that the male teen had been a student at Park View High School student. A school official told WRC that grief counselors would be available to students on Monday. “This is freaking us out when we see a lot of cop cars and media are here,” the school official said. A 22-year-old Columbian immigrant was shot and killed earlier this year when he arrived to pick up a friend at the wrong home because of faulty GPS directions." |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote:
Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." The kid wasn't armed, was drunk and a neighbor from two doors down. This is what Merika has come to... "A teenager who was shot and killed in Sterling, Virginia over the weekend may have accidentally entered the wrong home after a night of drinking. Law enforcement officials told The Washington Post that the drunk teen had been dropped off by friends at a house just two doors down from where he lived. Both houses were two story, red brick homes and on the same side of the street. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office refused to release the names of anyone involved, and only described the shooting as an unknown intruder being killed by a homeowner. According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. Real estate records indicated that the shooting occurred in the home of Donald West Wilder II. Neighbor Joanna Roman described him as “a great neighbor, a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others.” On Monday, the sheriff’s office confirmed to WUSA that the male teen had been a student at Park View High School student. A school official told WRC that grief counselors would be available to students on Monday. “This is freaking us out when we see a lot of cop cars and media are here,” the school official said. A 22-year-old Columbian immigrant was shot and killed earlier this year when he arrived to pick up a friend at the wrong home because of faulty GPS directions." Where is that? If an individual climbed through a rear window of my house in the middle of the night, there's a damn good chance said individual would get shot. Ask your buddy, FOAD, how he'd have handled the situation. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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No ****.
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:17:08 -0400, Meyer wrote: Breaking and entering in the nighttime is punishable by death. Harry will tell you that. On 3/18/2013 12:09 PM, jps wrote: Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." The kid wasn't armed, was drunk and a neighbor from two doors down. This is what Merika has come to... "A teenager who was shot and killed in Sterling, Virginia over the weekend may have accidentally entered the wrong home after a night of drinking. Law enforcement officials told The Washington Post that the drunk teen had been dropped off by friends at a house just two doors down from where he lived. Both houses were two story, red brick homes and on the same side of the street. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office refused to release the names of anyone involved, and only described the shooting as an unknown intruder being killed by a homeowner. According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. Real estate records indicated that the shooting occurred in the home of Donald West Wilder II. Neighbor Joanna Roman described him as “a great neighbor, a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others.” On Monday, the sheriff’s office confirmed to WUSA that the male teen had been a student at Park View High School student. A school official told WRC that grief counselors would be available to students on Monday. “This is freaking us out when we see a lot of cop cars and media are here,” the school official said. A 22-year-old Columbian immigrant was shot and killed earlier this year when he arrived to pick up a friend at the wrong home because of faulty GPS directions." Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote:
According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:36:25 -0400, J Herring
wrote: Ask your buddy, FOAD, how he'd have handled the situation. ==== Harry would have broken his legs with a truck. Personally I think it's better to save the tax payer's money and eliminate repeat offences. There's also less risk of having your insurance rates go up. |
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On 3/18/13 12:36 PM, J Herring wrote:
If an individual climbed through a rear window of my house in the middle of the night, there's a damn good chance said individual would get shot. Ask your buddy, FOAD, how he'd have handled the situation. Salmonbait -- I'd shoot the sucker. Period. Once someone breaks in, he's a home invader as far as I am concerned. In the good old days, I rammed a home burglar with a pickup truck. At the time I had no firearm and I wasn't in the house. The guy must be out by now. He drew a 20-year sentence, but I'm sure he didn't serve all of it. Big-time burglar and drug dealer. |
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On 3/18/2013 12:09 PM, jps wrote:
Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." They better hurry up and ban all alcohol! |
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On 3/18/2013 12:36 PM, J Herring wrote:
harry won't say ****.. No ****. On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:17:08 -0400, Meyer wrote: Breaking and entering in the nighttime is punishable by death. Harry will tell you that. On 3/18/2013 12:09 PM, jps wrote: Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." The kid wasn't armed, was drunk and a neighbor from two doors down. This is what Merika has come to... "A teenager who was shot and killed in Sterling, Virginia over the weekend may have accidentally entered the wrong home after a night of drinking. Law enforcement officials told The Washington Post that the drunk teen had been dropped off by friends at a house just two doors down from where he lived. Both houses were two story, red brick homes and on the same side of the street. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office refused to release the names of anyone involved, and only described the shooting as an unknown intruder being killed by a homeowner. According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. Real estate records indicated that the shooting occurred in the home of Donald West Wilder II. Neighbor Joanna Roman described him as “a great neighbor, a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others.” On Monday, the sheriff’s office confirmed to WUSA that the male teen had been a student at Park View High School student. A school official told WRC that grief counselors would be available to students on Monday. “This is freaking us out when we see a lot of cop cars and media are here,” the school official said. A 22-year-old Columbian immigrant was shot and killed earlier this year when he arrived to pick up a friend at the wrong home because of faulty GPS directions." Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. |
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On 3/18/2013 2:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:43:55 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/18/2013 2:13 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? In some of these cookie cutter neighborhoods I might almost believe you could walk in the wrong front door but if you are walking around the house looking for a window you can get in, I have to believe it would occur to you at some point that it wasn't your house. I can see it happening to a drunken person... Tough to know what "markers" led the kid to the wrong house or which direction he came from, how he enters his "cookie cutter" window when he's drunk and gets to the right house, the lighting, etc.... Sub development with cookie cutter houses. I happens to people coming home from work who aren't drunk. Well then we need to ban stupidity, as well as booze.. |
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On 3/18/2013 2:49 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself Oh brother, did you and harry talk about the "ten seconds" talking point before hand? Cause 10 seconds is a lot of ****ing time even if nobody has a weapon... Why not make it two? How about 45? Learn to exchange ideas, then someone might take you seriously instead of just laughing at you here... |
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On Monday, 18 March 2013 13:09:56 UTC-3, jps wrote:
Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." snip.... Man, good thing we're not so gun crazy up here. I remember a group of us staying in a cabin over on Prince Edward Island one year way back before I got married. We arrived back from a nightclub and I walked into a darkened cabin, almost jumping into the bed before noticing it was occupied. The guy and his girlfriend jumped up and started yelling.. so I stumbled out and made my way back to our cabin one or two units down. |
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In article ,
says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. Remember that gun nuts are frequently shooting and killing kin. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...eports-father- accidentally-shoots-kills-10-month-old-son-in-front-of-family?lite I didn't bother chasing links. Just typed accident shot son in google. So it's no surprise this kid got killed. What's really funny is except for Eisboch, apparently none of the jokers here have been "out of it" drunk, or seen an "out of it" drunk. Makes you wonder about their life experience, morality, and judgment. |
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On 3/18/13 3:21 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depends on who is breaking in. If it is a 50+ year old little **** with an ugly puss and an attitude breaking in, it is probably PsychoSnotty, a guy who would be up to no good, according to all the threats he has made here. He's not a kid and he wouldn't be a wayward drunk in our neighborhood. |
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On 3/18/13 4:36 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. Remember that gun nuts are frequently shooting and killing kin. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...eports-father- accidentally-shoots-kills-10-month-old-son-in-front-of-family?lite I didn't bother chasing links. Just typed accident shot son in google. So it's no surprise this kid got killed. What's really funny is except for Eisboch, apparently none of the jokers here have been "out of it" drunk, or seen an "out of it" drunk. Makes you wonder about their life experience, morality, and judgment. Neither my wife nor I drink, and we know how to get into the house if we've forgotten or lost our keys. Therefore, someone forcing his way in late at night is...a home invader. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:24:43 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/18/2013 2:49 PM, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself Oh brother, did you and harry talk about the "ten seconds" talking point before hand? Cause 10 seconds is a lot of ****ing time even if nobody has a weapon... Why not make it two? How about 45? Learn to exchange ideas, then someone might take you seriously instead of just laughing at you here... God you are a sad sack of ****. Even when someone is being civil with you, you cannot help but spew your stupid bile. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:36:11 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. Remember that gun nuts are frequently shooting and killing kin. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...eports-father- accidentally-shoots-kills-10-month-old-son-in-front-of-family?lite I didn't bother chasing links. Just typed accident shot son in google. So it's no surprise this kid got killed. What's really funny is except for Eisboch, apparently none of the jokers here have been "out of it" drunk, or seen an "out of it" drunk. Makes you wonder about their life experience, morality, and judgment. Well, to his credit, Greg seems to have a reasonable approach. |
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On 3/18/2013 6:40 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. I wonder if he would consider the safety of his girls while he deliberated with himself on the home invaders fate? What might the home invader do with the extra time awarded him? |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:02:42 -0700, jps wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:36:11 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. Remember that gun nuts are frequently shooting and killing kin. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...eports-father- accidentally-shoots-kills-10-month-old-son-in-front-of-family?lite I didn't bother chasing links. Just typed accident shot son in google. So it's no surprise this kid got killed. What's really funny is except for Eisboch, apparently none of the jokers here have been "out of it" drunk, or seen an "out of it" drunk. Makes you wonder about their life experience, morality, and judgment. Well, to his credit, Greg seems to have a reasonable approach. ==== Sorry you didn't like my offer of tea and cookies. At our house we make it a point to leave no doors or windows unlocked at night. Anyone entering has already forced their way in, and in my mind, that is justification enough to open fire. State law agrees with that position. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. My prior work used to put me in touch with them frequently. And no one said the kid was beligerent. He was doing what 1000 kids did this past weekend after too much to drink, they were trying to sneak into their own houses undetected. Unfortunately this kid wasn't busted by his parents but an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. And now he'll live with the image of having killed someone's child who meant no harm to him. The kid was just trying to go home. Sickening and there are plenty of idiots in this group calloused enough to find justification. This country is ****ing nuts. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. He met you? |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:12:33 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:02:42 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:36:11 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. Remember that gun nuts are frequently shooting and killing kin. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...eports-father- accidentally-shoots-kills-10-month-old-son-in-front-of-family?lite I didn't bother chasing links. Just typed accident shot son in google. So it's no surprise this kid got killed. What's really funny is except for Eisboch, apparently none of the jokers here have been "out of it" drunk, or seen an "out of it" drunk. Makes you wonder about their life experience, morality, and judgment. Well, to his credit, Greg seems to have a reasonable approach. ==== Sorry you didn't like my offer of tea and cookies. At our house we make it a point to leave no doors or windows unlocked at night. Anyone entering has already forced their way in, and in my mind, that is justification enough to open fire. State law agrees with that position. Well then, I'm glad you didn't accidently kill one of your kids for being stupid. |
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On 3/18/2013 7:20 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. My prior work used to put me in touch with them frequently. And no one said the kid was beligerent. He was doing what 1000 kids did this past weekend after too much to drink, they were trying to sneak into their own houses undetected. Unfortunately this kid wasn't busted by his parents but an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. And now he'll live with the image of having killed someone's child who meant no harm to him. The kid was just trying to go home. Sickening and there are plenty of idiots in this group calloused enough to find justification. This country is ****ing nuts. I do hope you educate your kids about the perils of breaking and entering in the nighttime. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:53:52 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 3/18/2013 7:20 PM, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. My prior work used to put me in touch with them frequently. And no one said the kid was beligerent. He was doing what 1000 kids did this past weekend after too much to drink, they were trying to sneak into their own houses undetected. Unfortunately this kid wasn't busted by his parents but an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. And now he'll live with the image of having killed someone's child who meant no harm to him. The kid was just trying to go home. Sickening and there are plenty of idiots in this group calloused enough to find justification. This country is ****ing nuts. I do hope you educate your kids about the perils of breaking and entering in the nighttime. No one was breaking and entering. Went through an open window into what he thought was his own house. The guy who shot him looks to be a loon. I understand how you might easily relate to him. Perhaps you should reach out to your fellow loon in his hour of need. |
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an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly
assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:21:05 -0700, jps wrote:
==== Sorry you didn't like my offer of tea and cookies. At our house we make it a point to leave no doors or windows unlocked at night. Anyone entering has already forced their way in, and in my mind, that is justification enough to open fire. State law agrees with that position. Well then, I'm glad you didn't accidently kill one of your kids for being stupid. === Don't know about your kids but mine are smart enough to not try and force their way into a house. |
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On 3/18/2013 9:12 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:53:52 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/18/2013 7:20 PM, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. My prior work used to put me in touch with them frequently. And no one said the kid was beligerent. He was doing what 1000 kids did this past weekend after too much to drink, they were trying to sneak into their own houses undetected. Unfortunately this kid wasn't busted by his parents but an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. And now he'll live with the image of having killed someone's child who meant no harm to him. The kid was just trying to go home. Sickening and there are plenty of idiots in this group calloused enough to find justification. This country is ****ing nuts. I do hope you educate your kids about the perils of breaking and entering in the nighttime. No one was breaking and entering. Went through an open window into what he thought was his own house. The guy who shot him looks to be a loon. I understand how you might easily relate to him. Perhaps you should reach out to your fellow loon in his hour of need. Sorry, I don't probe the sordid details of these incidents of yours. Be sure to educate your children about the perils of leaving windows open at night. Maybe you could get Harry to come over and educate you and the kids about how to deal with things that go bump in the night. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. Your hero Mr. Zimmerman, possibly a racist, definitely a killer of young black kids. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:57:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/18/13 9:28 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. My take away from Zimmerman is even if you are right and the shooting is justified, it still may cost you $300,000 to stay out of jail. My takeaway is that if you are part of some sort of neighborhood watch, and you aren't supposed to be "watching" with a gun, well, you shouldn't be. My takeaway is that if Zimmerman didn't have his gun handy, he wouldn't have so aggressively pursued the kid and escalated a situation into a homicide. Well, he might have stabbed him... repeatedly. |
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On 3/18/2013 9:57 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/18/13 9:28 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. My take away from Zimmerman is even if you are right and the shooting is justified, it still may cost you $300,000 to stay out of jail. My takeaway is that if you are part of some sort of neighborhood watch, and you aren't supposed to be "watching" with a gun, well, you shouldn't be. My takeaway is that if Zimmerman didn't have his gun handy, he wouldn't have so aggressively pursued the kid and escalated a situation into a homicide. It's not clear who escalated the situation. Zimmerman might have been beaten to death. |
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On 3/18/2013 10:00 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:57:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/18/13 9:28 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. My take away from Zimmerman is even if you are right and the shooting is justified, it still may cost you $300,000 to stay out of jail. My takeaway is that if you are part of some sort of neighborhood watch, and you aren't supposed to be "watching" with a gun, well, you shouldn't be. My takeaway is that if Zimmerman didn't have his gun handy, he wouldn't have so aggressively pursued the kid and escalated a situation into a homicide. Well, he might have stabbed him... repeatedly. Or he would be dead as Martin said he was going to do.... |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:52:41 -0400, Meyer wrote:
On 3/18/2013 9:12 PM, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:53:52 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 3/18/2013 7:20 PM, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. My prior work used to put me in touch with them frequently. And no one said the kid was beligerent. He was doing what 1000 kids did this past weekend after too much to drink, they were trying to sneak into their own houses undetected. Unfortunately this kid wasn't busted by his parents but an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. And now he'll live with the image of having killed someone's child who meant no harm to him. The kid was just trying to go home. Sickening and there are plenty of idiots in this group calloused enough to find justification. This country is ****ing nuts. I do hope you educate your kids about the perils of breaking and entering in the nighttime. No one was breaking and entering. Went through an open window into what he thought was his own house. The guy who shot him looks to be a loon. I understand how you might easily relate to him. Perhaps you should reach out to your fellow loon in his hour of need. Sorry, I don't probe the sordid details of these incidents of yours. Be sure to educate your children about the perils of leaving windows open at night. Maybe you could get Harry to come over and educate you and the kids about how to deal with things that go bump in the night. You competing for the scummy asshole award with the snot nosed freak? |
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