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On 3/19/13 11:26 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. Yeah, right.... What would *you* do if someone who looked like you broke into your house late a night? |
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says... On 3/19/2013 10:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/19/2013 8:48 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/19/2013 5:03 AM, jps wrote: My bet is that the shooter didn't wait to find out intent. Yes, we wouldn't expect anything less of you.. You forgot to call him the N word, racist. You forgot to mock my girls and their education... kevin... I'm not kevin, dip****, BUT, I've never mocked your girls or their education, you liar. What I HAVE done is mock your LIES about your girls and their education. If you think otherwise, please show the group, liar. It is what it is kevin, you are pathetic... Well, it IS what it is, which is nothing but your insane babbling. You can't show me one instance where I've mocked your girls and their education, you lied yet again. You are a liar, a racist, and a vulgar, low class person who comes here and says nasty things about other's wives and children, makes racial slurs and then turns around and whines about being 'bullied'.... and you call someone else pathetic. |
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On 3/19/13 11:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/19/2013 10:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/19/2013 8:48 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/19/2013 5:03 AM, jps wrote: My bet is that the shooter didn't wait to find out intent. Yes, we wouldn't expect anything less of you.. You forgot to call him the N word, racist. You forgot to mock my girls and their education... kevin... I'm not kevin, dip****, BUT, I've never mocked your girls or their education, you liar. What I HAVE done is mock your LIES about your girls and their education. If you think otherwise, please show the group, liar. It is what it is kevin, you are pathetic... Well, it IS what it is, which is nothing but your insane babbling. You can't show me one instance where I've mocked your girls and their education, you lied yet again. You are a liar, a racist, and a vulgar, low class person who comes here and says nasty things about other's wives and children, makes racial slurs and then turns around and whines about being 'bullied'.... and you call someone else pathetic. But, but, but...he's being *blackmailed* :) |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrotei
If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. I doubt you're in any shape to do that, delusional one. |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. .....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/19/13 11:26 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. Yeah, right.... What would *you* do if someone who looked like you broke into your house late a night? I guess I would hope he likes dogs:) |
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On 3/19/2013 11:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrotei If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. I doubt you're in any shape to do that, delusional one. Harry would be the most likely here to shoot someone based on what he has said here over the years. He is just itchin' to shoot a human target... |
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On 3/19/2013 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Well, if you are lucky enough to be upstairs with your family you yell down the stairs. "we up here are armed, the police have been called, if you come up the stairs, you will be shot"... Then if they come up the stairs still, you defend your family. You have to use reasonable force. Like the cops say, "we treat you the way you ask to be treated". The time the guy tried to walk into my house at about 1am I had a baseball bat. I crossed it up in two hands and slammed him up under the rib cage when he reached for what I thought might be a weapon in his coat pocket. He flew off the porch and was still laying there when the cops came, I think I broke his ribs. Either way, if he had gotten back up I would have held it like a baseball bat and swung for the fence, but "he didn't ask for that"... |
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On 3/19/13 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. If my alarm is going off, then most of the lights in the house are no "on." If the intruder is "walking up the staircase," then he already knows, drunk or not, that he's not at home. I am not, after all, a gun-crazy right-winger. |
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On 3/19/13 1:05 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:59 AM, Meyer wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrotei If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. I doubt you're in any shape to do that, delusional one. Harry would be the most likely here to shoot someone based on what he has said here over the years. He is just itchin' to shoot a human target... Well, actually, no. But a house invader like you wouldn't fare well. |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:12:45 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/19/13 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. If my alarm is going off, then most of the lights in the house are no "on." If the intruder is "walking up the staircase," then he already knows, drunk or not, that he's not at home. I am not, after all, a gun-crazy right-winger. Perhaps he had the type alarm I do - makes a horrendous noise and calls the company. Doesn't turn on a single light in the house. I was telling you what was in the news. "The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. Caleb didn’t stop, and the home-owner fired again, striking and killing the teen, the official said." So obviously the teen 'already knew, drunk or not, that he wasn't at home.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?tid=ts_carousel It's hard to believe you didn't cut'n'paste this story yourself. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/19/13 1:25 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:12:45 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. If my alarm is going off, then most of the lights in the house are no "on." If the intruder is "walking up the staircase," then he already knows, drunk or not, that he's not at home. I am not, after all, a gun-crazy right-winger. Perhaps he had the type alarm I do - makes a horrendous noise and calls the company. Doesn't turn on a single light in the house. I was telling you what was in the news. "The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. Caleb didn’t stop, and the home-owner fired again, striking and killing the teen, the official said." So obviously the teen 'already knew, drunk or not, that he wasn't at home.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?tid=ts_carousel It's hard to believe you didn't cut'n'paste this story yourself. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not nearly as interested in crime news as you are. Probably because I don't live in an area surrounded by Central and South American gangs, as you do. |
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On Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:34:55 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/19/2013 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: L'il Snottie dreaming up fantastic adventures again? Knew a local guy like that.. he could convince strangers of almost anything while we stood bacn and were amused. He had a great story of how he saved the life of another buddy of ours (bull****) and how he did overseas during the VietNam war. Of course, he was a hero.. ~~Snerk~~ On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Well, if you are lucky enough to be upstairs with your family you yell down the stairs. "we up here are armed, the police have been called, if you come up the stairs, you will be shot"... Then if they come up the stairs still, you defend your family. You have to use reasonable force. Like the cops say, "we treat you the way you ask to be treated". The time the guy tried to walk into my house at about 1am I had a baseball bat. I crossed it up in two hands and slammed him up under the rib cage when he reached for what I thought might be a weapon in his coat pocket. He flew off the porch and was still laying there when the cops came, I think I broke his ribs. Either way, if he had gotten back up I would have held it like a baseball bat and swung for the fence, but "he didn't ask for that"... Yeah, sure....... You wouldn't lie, would you? |
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On 3/19/2013 1:25 PM, J Herring wrote:
I was telling you what was in the news. "The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. Caleb didn’t stop, and the home-owner fired again, striking and killing the teen, the official said." So obviously the teen 'already knew, drunk or not, that he wasn't at home.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?tid=ts_carousel It's hard to believe you didn't cut'n'paste this story yourself. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. So the whole point is that this guy probably saved his families lives with the gun... no wonder JPS is so against the guy. What a bunch of bull****. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:18:38 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/18/2013 10:00 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:57:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/18/13 9:28 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. My take away from Zimmerman is even if you are right and the shooting is justified, it still may cost you $300,000 to stay out of jail. My takeaway is that if you are part of some sort of neighborhood watch, and you aren't supposed to be "watching" with a gun, well, you shouldn't be. My takeaway is that if Zimmerman didn't have his gun handy, he wouldn't have so aggressively pursued the kid and escalated a situation into a homicide. Well, he might have stabbed him... repeatedly. Or he would be dead as Martin said he was going to do.... So, now you're claiming that Martin was stalking Zimmer**** and not the other way around?? |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:26:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/19/13 1:25 PM, J Herring wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:12:45 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. If my alarm is going off, then most of the lights in the house are no "on." If the intruder is "walking up the staircase," then he already knows, drunk or not, that he's not at home. I am not, after all, a gun-crazy right-winger. Perhaps he had the type alarm I do - makes a horrendous noise and calls the company. Doesn't turn on a single light in the house. I was telling you what was in the news. "The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. Caleb didn’t stop, and the home-owner fired again, striking and killing the teen, the official said." So obviously the teen 'already knew, drunk or not, that he wasn't at home.' http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?tid=ts_carousel It's hard to believe you didn't cut'n'paste this story yourself. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. I'm not nearly as interested in crime news as you are. Probably because I don't live in an area surrounded by Central and South American gangs, as you do. LOL! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/19/2013 11:11 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:02:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. And, a warning shot was fired. I hope the ceiling didn't suffer too much. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. In some states, warning shots aren't allowed. If you are going to shoot, shoot to stop the threat. harry interpets that to mean shoot to kill. |
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It's obvious that harry doesn't want to help you. Some friend eh? On 3/19/2013 1:42 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:34:55 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/19/2013 12:14 PM, J Herring wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:19:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: L'il Snottie dreaming up fantastic adventures again? Knew a local guy like that.. he could convince strangers of almost anything while we stood bacn and were amused. He had a great story of how he saved the life of another buddy of ours (bull****) and how he did overseas during the VietNam war. Of course, he was a hero.. ~~Snerk~~ On 3/19/13 11:16 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:02 AM, Meyer wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:21:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:32:45 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:09:56 -0700, jps wrote: According to the Post, law enforcement sources believed that the teen may have entered the home through a rear window and was not armed. === Entering someone else's through a rear window? Give me a break. Would you have offered him tea and cookies? Imagine what a schmuck you'd feel like if you didn't give the kid 10 seconds to explain himself and found that you'd just shot your neighbor's kid who was too drunk to know the difference between houses. You want to carry that kind of weight around for the rest of your life, like your compatriots here? Ya'll put up a brave face but I have to wonder how many nights you'd sit awake wondering how that kid's father and mother feel. The callous responses here are astounding. Christians, no doubt. ------------------------------------- Castle laws may give you legal authority but I'd have to be more convinced that the intruder was an immediate threat to me or my wife before I'd open fire. Shooting someone is pretty serious stuff. Depending on his motives, you might not have much time to make up your mind. But according to harry, it's a no brainer. According to everything harry has said over the years, the kid would have been dead at his home too... I don't shoot in the dark, d.f. If an obviously drunk kid broke in and he wasn't wielding any sort of weapon, I'd simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Now, if the intruder were a short little greasy **** adult male who broke in and he looked like you, I'd assume it was a home invasion and act accordingly. It's dark. Your alarm is going off because someone broke in. He's walking up the staircase. You don't know it's a kid, and you don't know he's drunk, and you don't know if he does or doesn't have a weapon. You yell and fire a warning shot. The guy keeps coming. ....and now you simply get him down on the floor and call the police. Right. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. Well, if you are lucky enough to be upstairs with your family you yell down the stairs. "we up here are armed, the police have been called, if you come up the stairs, you will be shot"... Then if they come up the stairs still, you defend your family. You have to use reasonable force. Like the cops say, "we treat you the way you ask to be treated". The time the guy tried to walk into my house at about 1am I had a baseball bat. I crossed it up in two hands and slammed him up under the rib cage when he reached for what I thought might be a weapon in his coat pocket. He flew off the porch and was still laying there when the cops came, I think I broke his ribs. Either way, if he had gotten back up I would have held it like a baseball bat and swung for the fence, but "he didn't ask for that"... Yeah, sure....... You wouldn't lie, would you? |
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On 3/19/2013 1:12 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
If my alarm is going off, then most of the lights in the house are no "on." If the intruder is "walking up the staircase," then he already knows, drunk or not, that he's not at home. I am not, after all, a gun-crazy right-winger. You are a gun-crazy left winger. How do you make your lights no"on"? |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:57:50 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: On 3/19/2013 5:05 AM, jps wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:22:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:09:56 PM UTC-4, jps wrote: Looks like this drunk teen tried to get in a house just two doors from his own. His reward? Shot to death by "a helper, someone who spends spare time volunteering to help others." The kid wasn't armed, was drunk and a neighbor from two doors down. This is what Merika has come to... At 2:30 a.m., how is a homeowner supposed to know that an intruder is unarmed, and when the intruder is six feet tall, what difference does that make? The kid lived "just two doors down," in a flop house with transient residents the rest of the neighbors wouldn't recognize either. Here's what happens to homeowners who live in liberal paradises where they're not able to own guns for self-defense. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...l?tid=obinsite When the burglar alarm is ringing, a large male is coming up the stairs, and you're not Chuck Norris, my advice to you is: pull the trigger. Stop blaming America for the actions of irresponsible people -- in this case, the intoxicated teen, his friends, and his parents. Merika, where we shoot first and ask questions later. Nobody said that... you are still nothing but a liar. Now tell us why your guns were taken away? Did you have an incident? Well, I'm not a liar but I do assume that whatever mental illness you have is forcing you to project your own habits onto others. I sold the one gun I ever owned more than 30 years ago. Who took your guns away, your mom? |
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says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:18:38 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/18/2013 10:00 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:57:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/18/13 9:28 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:23:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. You don't know that at all... But do make it up as you go along, just like the Zimmerman case... Or Sharpton/Brawley.. My take away from Zimmerman is even if you are right and the shooting is justified, it still may cost you $300,000 to stay out of jail. My takeaway is that if you are part of some sort of neighborhood watch, and you aren't supposed to be "watching" with a gun, well, you shouldn't be. My takeaway is that if Zimmerman didn't have his gun handy, he wouldn't have so aggressively pursued the kid and escalated a situation into a homicide. Well, he might have stabbed him... repeatedly. Or he would be dead as Martin said he was going to do.... So, now you're claiming that Martin was stalking Zimmer**** and not the other way around?? Sure, FOX said so. |
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... So only a gun would have saved his family? What an idiot. I can save my family with a simple thing found in about any hardware store, something a cop told me about a LONG time ago. Wasp spray. Better than mace or pepper spray for at home use because it shoots about 20 feet. But then the Christian way is to kill the person, got it. ---------------------------------------------- If you ever actually used it against a person, you might find yourself in a shaky legal position. There's much controversy about "arming" yourself with a can of wasp or bee killer because, as it states on the label, it is a federal offense to use it in a manner or purpose for which it is not intended. That includes spraying it at or on a human being. You might save yourself or your family but find yourself being sued by the intruder or brought up on federal charges .... and it might stick. Pepper spray and mace are products specifically designed for personal self defense. In my state you must have a permit to purchase and own them. It's perfectly legal within the castle laws to use them, if necessary. It's not that clear regarding wasp spray. |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:57:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... So only a gun would have saved his family? What an idiot. I can save my family with a simple thing found in about any hardware store, something a cop told me about a LONG time ago. Wasp spray. Better than mace or pepper spray for at home use because it shoots about 20 feet. But then the Christian way is to kill the person, got it. ---------------------------------------------- If you ever actually used it against a person, you might find yourself in a shaky legal position. There's much controversy about "arming" yourself with a can of wasp or bee killer because, as it states on the label, it is a federal offense to use it in a manner or purpose for which it is not intended. That includes spraying it at or on a human being. That would be easy... all you have to do is claim you saw a wasp. Oh really? A white guy isn't a wasp? Well, it's hard to tell. You might save yourself or your family but find yourself being sued by the intruder or brought up on federal charges .... and it might stick. Federal charges? Seriously? I can just imagine the judge getting a good laugh at that one... so, you think this is the best use of the court? Guess what? He WAS a wasp! Pepper spray and mace are products specifically designed for personal self defense. In my state you must have a permit to purchase and own them. It's perfectly legal within the castle laws to use them, if necessary. It's not that clear regarding wasp spray. |
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"Urin Asshole" wrote in message ... Federal charges? Seriously? I can just imagine the judge getting a good laugh at that one... so, you think this is the best use of the court? Guess what? He WAS a wasp! ----------------------------------------- just sayin' ..... http://tinyurl.com/czk3g5t |
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:15:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . Federal charges? Seriously? I can just imagine the judge getting a good laugh at that one... so, you think this is the best use of the court? Guess what? He WAS a wasp! ----------------------------------------- just sayin' ..... http://tinyurl.com/czk3g5t Not saying much. How many huffers have been arrested on Federal charges? Give us a break! |
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jps wrote:
drunk teen What's wrong with this picture? -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ I have a very firm grasp on reality. I can reach out and strangle it any time! |
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says... On 3/18/2013 7:20 PM, jps wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:40:23 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:15 -0700, jps wrote: Climbing in a stranger's window in the middle of the night is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing. He might have about 10 seconds to explain himself but it would not take much belligerence to shorten that window. Good answer. In 10 seconds you'd probably find he's drunk and in the wrong house. Fortunately I have a big yellow dog that handles most of that 10 second interchange. That takes me off of the hair trigger status and gives me time to assess the situation. I really do not want to shoot a neighbor's kid, even if he was a burglar but if I felt my family was threatened, bang bang. I assume that JPS has never had to deal with a belligerent drunk. My prior work used to put me in touch with them frequently. And no one said the kid was beligerent. He was doing what 1000 kids did this past weekend after too much to drink, they were trying to sneak into their own houses undetected. Unfortunately this kid wasn't busted by his parents but an overeager asshole who shot before he could properly assess the situation. In my entire teen-aged years I never once crawled through the window of the wrong house while I was drunk or sober. If you had the experience with belligerent dunks you say you had you would know that a drunk can go from docile to raging in the blink of an eye. Are you willing to bet that that doesn't happen in your house in the middle of the night? And now he'll live with the image of having killed someone's child who meant no harm to him. The kid was just trying to go home. He will also live with the fact that the situation could have gotten worse if the drunk had decided to fight him. When it comes to you breaking into my house and me, I am going to do what I need to do to ensure me and my family survive. Sickening and there are plenty of idiots in this group calloused enough to find justification. This country is ****ing nuts. When someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night what are you supposed to do? Make them a cup of coffee and get them a piece of pie and ask them what their intentions are? I do hope you educate your kids about the perils of breaking and entering in the nighttime. |
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