"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:31:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:55:23 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:54:24 -0400, wrote:

Bull****. Just about every study available shows that a college
edu
makes a huge salary difference. Maybe you were able to do fine
without
one, but that's not the norm any more. You think factory workers
are
the future? Jesus H. Christ that's a narrow view.

What happens to that statistic when you take out the hedge fund
managers, doctors and lawyers?
What is the average salary for the regular BA who struggled with
college, maybe taking 5 or even 6 years to complete his degree with
very little job skill to show for it?


Huh? You think that'll skew it enough to make much difference? Go
for
it. Job skill and general education have only something to do with
each other, as you've already pointed out. So basically you're full
of
****. What's wrong with a general education?????

There is nothing wrong with a general education but you have to
consider what you are learning and how it will actually help you
getting a job.
A far more meaningful statistic would be what is the difference
between a non-professional college degree and a trade school.

So, learning how to think critically... like getting a liberal arts
education is pretty worthless. I get it.

Well, what's the difference? You could use Germany as an example, but
they're a bunch of socialists.

http://academic.cuesta.edu/intlang/g...education.html

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Germany had mandatory active duty military service until 2011 when it
was ended in favor of a smaller, all volunteer force.
It wasn't a draft. Every able bodied male served. I believe the
requirement was for 2 years and had been in effect since the 1950's.

Several Germans attended some of the same classes I took while in the
Navy.

"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:31:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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Huh? You think that'll skew it enough to make much difference? Go for
it. Job skill and general education have only something to do with
each other, as you've already pointed out. So basically you're full
of
****. What's wrong with a general education?????

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Your models are very outdated. The worst degree to get now-a-days in
terms of jobs is a liberal arts degree.


Bull****. Try hiring someone who doesn't know how to look at a report
and figure out what's going on. Or create one that can be read by
someone.

The worst degree to get is none. Just about every undergrad degree
program requires some pretty substantial "liberal arts" background to
graduate. You're argument is that if it isn't engineering or
programming, then you shouldn't go to school. That's total bull****
and wrong on the face of it.

Oh, sorry for using bull****. I thought this was a boating group, but
it seems like there are a bunch of ****ing pansies who can't stand the
****ing word.

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I'll repeat my statement. Read it slowly and with feeling:

"The worst degree to get now-a-days in *terms of jobs* is a liberal
arts degree."

Don't believe it? Look it up.

On 3/18/13 7:40 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:36:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree
into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get
even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree.

The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot
of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our
daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in
that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't
much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real
estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at
Hodges University.

Not much money in the prison system????? What???? On what planet?


Institutions such as hospitals and prisons in Florida pay poorly.

On 3/18/13 7:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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Military tuition. Hmmm.. sounds socialist to me. Of course, we could
reeinstitute the draft. That'll motivate the kids. Sheesh.

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It was a benefit ... not unlike civilian companies that offer tuition
assistance for employees. It still exists except the program has been
halted due to the sequester. Education benefits under the GI Bill (or
whatever it's modern counterpart is called) is still in force when you
leave the military but the tuition assistance for school while on active
duty has been stopped .... hopefully temporarily.

We had a friend who got his doctorate as a classmate of my wife's a
couple of years ago...he was a military social working, treating front
line troops. Got sent to Afghanistan and died when an IED blew up the
truck in which he was riding. Really great guy. Military paid for his
doctorate and the university helped him complete the requirements within
the time limits the military allocated for him.

It's a good deal that the military educates its troops...helps them be
better, smarter soldiers and surely helps them transition to civilian
life when they leave the service.

On Monday, March 18, 2013 1:54:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:25:10 -0700, Urin Asshole

You think factory workers are
the future? Jesus H. Christ that's a narrow view.



What happens to that statistic when you take out the hedge fund
managers, doctors and lawyers?
What is the average salary for the regular BA who struggled with
college, maybe taking 5 or even 6 years to complete his degree with
very little job skill to show for it?

Besides, aren't the usual liberal jerks in here constantly whining about the middle class going away (the FACTORY WORKERS) and now one of them is putting them down? They can't seem to get their stories straight.

On 3/18/2013 6:21 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:44:54 -0500, amdx wrote:


What's ****ing stupid ****.

You are so angry your sentence isn't making sense.
Calm down.
Have a happy day, Mikek :-)


Only to ****ing stupid ****s like you.


Have you been angry all day?
Mikek

On 3/18/2013 12:26 AM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:15:08 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 3/14/2013 9:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:35:51 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:09:12 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

Those "lifetime earnings" stats don't account for kids who paid up for
college but didn't succeed. They end up dropping out before they
finish, or finish and end up working at Starbucks.

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Not everyone who drops out of college ends up in a dead end job.
Take a look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs for two notable examples.
There are lots more.

That's true, but those who don't go are much more likely to earn many
thousands less over their lifetime. More true now than ever. Even four
years is just the minimum now.

Unless you start a business.
Mikek

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

All this name calling, does it help your self esteem?
Mikek

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:27:01 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

Yeah, it's all about the money, then when a new techology comes
around, you can kiss that job goodbye.

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This is not a new thing. Talk to the buggy whip manufacturers, wagon
wheel makers, blacksmiths, vacuum tube makers, Kodak film developers,
etc.

The time are always a-changein.

Exactly, continuing education is a MUST in most professions. In a lot of
professions, it's the law.

Just because you have a job in a specific field doesn't mean that you
will be able to stay in the field your entire career.

I agree completely. So, no point in have a broad education. Might as
well focus on one thing.

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:20:06 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:



Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

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There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

How about when the tough get educated, the tough can adapt.

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:45:07 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

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There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

Education is typically broad based, so specialization is the boogey
man. Don't specialize.