On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:29:01 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:05:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional
sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a
significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for
being a professor.

I bet that is true.
They buy what they sell.



Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.

Sometimes it is justified.

And mostly it isn't. It's just an anti-education view point.

The local college was looking for someone to manage the dorm expansion
project. They rejected my wife and another experienced construction
manager in favor of a guy with a masters degree in construction
management (and zero experience). Now the project is running almost a
year behind schedule and the cost overruns are piling up.

They hired what they sold, not what they needed.

Thus the ancedote is the general case. Which it isn't. Of course, it
always comes down to "I know because it happened to me" bull****.
That's what it is.. bull****.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:07:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/20/13 10:01 AM, wrote:
On 20 Mar 2013 13:34:06 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:05:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional
sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a
significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for
being a professor.

I bet that is true.
They buy what they sell.



Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.

Sometimes it is justified.
The local college was looking for someone to manage the dorm expansion
project. They rejected my wife and another experienced construction
manager in favor of a guy with a masters degree in construction
management (and zero experience). Now the project is running almost a
year behind schedule and the cost overruns are piling up.

They hired what they sold, not what they needed.

That could have happened for reasons that have nothing to do with the
construction manager.

That is why you hire a construction manager, to be sure those things
don't happen.


That's silly and you know it. All sorts of unexpected **** can happen on
commercial construction sites, and many times for inexplicable
challenges that are not easily resolved by a CM or anyone else.

Don't you get it?? This is his thing. He cites some bull****, and
people take it seriously, as though he has all the facts. He doesn't.
In fact, it's very hard to have all the facts. That's why we have
organizations like the NTSB who show up after a plane crash. It takes
months to sort things out. But Gretwell sees all and knows all.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:51:36 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:07:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/20/13 10:01 AM, wrote:
. Now the project is running almost a
year behind schedule and the cost overruns are piling up.

They hired what they sold, not what they needed.

That could have happened for reasons that have nothing to do with the
construction manager.

That is why you hire a construction manager, to be sure those things
don't happen.


That's silly and you know it. All sorts of unexpected **** can happen on
commercial construction sites, and many times for inexplicable
challenges that are not easily resolved by a CM or anyone else.

Experience with local contractors and conditions is more valuable than
anything you get from a book. There as also simply the experience you
get from actually managing people.

Anything? Really? Anything? Care to change that? There are lots and
lots of really ****ty managers.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:15:15 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:18:09 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

Well, then I guess you'll need something else first. Maybe work for 20
years as an auto-mechanic for someone else, so you can save up to buy
a liquor store. What a fantastic life.

===

It's the great American way: work hard, save money, invest in the
future. You have a problem with that? Too bad you didn't inherit
any money from wealthy ancestors. That's the only easy way that has
withstood the test of time.

It's part of the American way, but not the only part. That's blind
absolutism at its finest.

How about getting a first class education, and using that education to
invent something or learn the theories behind how things work. Or be
able to see a problem that isn't obvious because you studied it in
school as a case study.

Yes, it's too bad, but education has withstood the test of time also.
If it was all about working hard, we'd be living in a much reduced
time.

It's not all about making money besides. How about being happy and
engaged in your community. Not that Biden is the best example, but he
was the poorest or nearly the poorest sentator. Not bad for someone
who was highly educated and not in it for the money.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:10:33 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:03:08 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:


But Gretwell sees all and knows all.

As opposed to Mr U. Asshole who doesn't seem to have seen or know of
much of anything. Maybe when you get out of school and actually do
something you will have some stories.

That's right. When you don't like what I have to say, such as
anecdotes are pretty worthless as far as facts go, you claim I don't
know much, all the while claiming bull**** as fact.

I don't need to have "stories" to understand facts and know bs when I
see it. I have plenty of stories. So what? They don't add much value
to a discussion like what you were attempting poorly to contribute to.
They're a data point among thousands of data points. Basically
meaningless, but your game it give them more meaning than they're
actually worth.

But, you're right. They're stories. Mostly made up as far as I can
tell, so that means they don't actually qualify as data points.

F.O.A.D. wrote:


Indeed. If you had applied yourself, you might have become a wealthy
end table for someone's can of beer placed on your flat little head.


I'm amazed when the resident tax cheat posts attack like this about
people he doesn't even know.

On 3/21/13 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:38:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/21/13 11:30 AM, wrote:

OK liquor store, that license will cost at least $250,000 in Florida
and I imagine any other place that limits the number of licenses.

Huh?

http://tinyurl.com/c73fdqr

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.



Ahh, the "private" market. $$$ uber alles, eh?

More like the government restraining trade by limiting the number of
licenses. Any time you limit supply, you drive up the price.
I bet that when those laws were originally passed, the licenses were
doled out to political cronies and people who paid the public
officials directly.
Maryland has a quota system too. (one license per every 1000 people in
the census by county). That is a fairly generous number of licenses
but I bet some counties still have licenses that will sell for 100
grand.



Well, opinions differ as to how many liquor stores are needed in a given
area.

Starting at the county line and just counting the liquor stores along
Route 4 down past Prince Frederick, I know there are at least 15,
because every time I'm on that road, and that's pretty much every day, I
see them. Several of them are "drive through" liquor stores.

Hell, we have at least four times as many churches in the area as liquor
stores, and at least twice as many banks.

I don't see reasonable limits on the number of liquor stores as
"restraining trade." There's about 80,000 people living in this county.
We sure as hell don't "need" 80 liquor stores.

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says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

Just like that CAD program that does all of the engineering for a
complex project, this is a tall tale.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:47:25 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:21:53 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:00:33 -0400, wrote:

I said liquor store owner dip****. I also said auto mechanic. How does
that require lots of upfront cash? If you're going to make **** up, at
least try and sound intelligent doing it. You're amusing on some
stupid level, sort of like the town drunk.

OK liquor store, that license will cost at least $250,000 in Florida
and I imagine any other place that limits the number of licenses.

I looked and in California they can range up to $400,000-$500,000 in
some counties for a off premises liquor license.

No doubt, but I thought anyone could save that much if they work hard
without a college degree for 20 years?

Some do. The real question is if you really want to put all of it into
a license before you even start sticking a store. Most small
businesses fail because they are undercapitalized and can't live
through a tough stretch.

Or the person could attend some college and figure out what small
business is most likely to be viable for whatever money he's got and
work toward that goal. Oh wait, that involved an education. ****.
That's no good.

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:57:10 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:38:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/21/13 11:30 AM, wrote:

OK liquor store, that license will cost at least $250,000 in Florida
and I imagine any other place that limits the number of licenses.

Huh?

http://tinyurl.com/c73fdqr

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.



Ahh, the "private" market. $$$ uber alles, eh?

More like the government restraining trade by limiting the number of
licenses. Any time you limit supply, you drive up the price.
I bet that when those laws were originally passed, the licenses were
doled out to political cronies and people who paid the public
officials directly.
Maryland has a quota system too. (one license per every 1000 people in
the census by county). That is a fairly generous number of licenses
but I bet some counties still have licenses that will sell for 100
grand.

Oh come on. You just said it cost $500K, then when the facts are
shown, you claim that you have to operate first to sell for a profit.
Now you're claiming it's the governments fault for not allowing just
anyone to open a liquor store. Just what we need, more ****ing liquor
stores. There aren't enough, apparently?