Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

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There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

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There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

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The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

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In my field we used to write technical proposals and manuals in
longhand on pads of paper. We'd cover the generic sections using the
original "cut and paste", meaning we physically cut sections out of
previously written documents and scotch tape them into the new one.
From there, the document went to the secretary who typed it all out on
an IBM Selectric typewriter.

As we started to use computers and word processing programs, the
requirement for the typist obviously went away.

The engineering department typically consisted of degreed engineers
doing the calcs and writing the specifications. Draftsmen sat at
drafting tables with T squares and French curves, producing the
fabrication drawings.

As CAD programs came into play, the need for a separate drafting
department diminished and in many cases has all but disappeared.
Engineers can easily produce their own drawings ..... faster and with
fewer errors. So, again, jobs were eliminated.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

====

There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

Horse****. What "engineer's union" are you talking about? What "$100 CAD
program" can analyze and economize a structure? How does this $100 CAD
program analyze case by case seismic design? How does it analyze
concrete floor loading and design? How does it analyze dynamic loads
from equipment and or rack storage? How does it analyze site specific
soil properties? In short, please show me this program, I'd love to have
it, I'll be a millionaire in a week!!

On 3/18/13 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

====

There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

Horse****. What "engineer's union" are you talking about? What "$100 CAD
program" can analyze and economize a structure? How does this $100 CAD
program analyze case by case seismic design? How does it analyze
concrete floor loading and design? How does it analyze dynamic loads
from equipment and or rack storage? How does it analyze site specific
soil properties? In short, please show me this program, I'd love to have
it, I'll be a millionaire in a week!!


I think he is talking about EE's and circuit board design.

On 3/18/2013 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

====

There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

Horse****. What "engineer's union" are you talking about? What "$100 CAD
program" can analyze and economize a structure? How does this $100 CAD
program analyze case by case seismic design? How does it analyze
concrete floor loading and design? How does it analyze dynamic loads
from equipment and or rack storage? How does it analyze site specific
soil properties? In short, please show me this program, I'd love to have
it, I'll be a millionaire in a week!!


Nope, you're certainly not kevin Anyway, the program might not be
100 bucks, but if that program costs 10 grand and it could make you a
millionaire in a week, what are you waiting for?

In article ,
says...

On 3/18/2013 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

====

There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

Horse****. What "engineer's union" are you talking about? What "$100 CAD
program" can analyze and economize a structure? How does this $100 CAD
program analyze case by case seismic design? How does it analyze
concrete floor loading and design? How does it analyze dynamic loads
from equipment and or rack storage? How does it analyze site specific
soil properties? In short, please show me this program, I'd love to have
it, I'll be a millionaire in a week!!


Nope, you're certainly not kevin Anyway, the program might not be
100 bucks, but if that program costs 10 grand and it could make you a
millionaire in a week, what are you waiting for?

I'm waiting for you to tell me just what program that is.......

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:45:07 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

====

There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest
brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he
first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract,
multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots!

The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college
graduate" job the hardest.
If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs
would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying
for the "stamp" anyway.

Education is typically broad based, so specialization is the boogey
man. Don't specialize.

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:20:06 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:



Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point
dip****.

====

There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre
tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for
life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks?

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

How about when the tough get educated, the tough can adapt.