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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. |
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... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented, you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong. That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the once a decade lottery. Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state. Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you talk in generalities with no justification. It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs. The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity. Try making some sense next time. ========================== Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100 grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000 more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200 to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else. At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued. Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease. |
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On 3/22/13 10:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. I bet that is true. They buy what they sell. Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. ----------------- No, distain for some of the Schooling rules. Talking with the Dean of Engineering at Santa Clara Univ. during the 90's she said if you want to teach in the university, get a PhD. If you want to be an engineer get a masters. Education these days uses college to limit entrance, to keep prices up. Why does a 3rd grade teacher need a masters plus a year of basically unpaid student teaching? A whole generation of people were taught by people with a bachelors degree, and that generation seemed to do better than what we have now. Sent man to the moon, and built a great infrastructure in the USA. I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters. And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got into the system without an apprenticeship. You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field, among many other things. I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. "Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power." The liberal and union mantra. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. |
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says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:32:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Again, CITE? Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a mere $175k. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/ One county makes up the whole state???? From YOUR cite: In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license cost |
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says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. "Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power." The liberal and union mantra. Salmonbait What liberal are you quoting? |
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... In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. ----------------- unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are thinking about education. What do you say about the lack of support or changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting from ignorance. http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/ http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago |
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says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. ----------------- unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are thinking about education. There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow category. What do you say about the lack of support or changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting from ignorance. http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/ http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being narrow minded. |
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... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. ----------------- unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are thinking about education. There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow category. What do you say about the lack of support or changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting from ignorance. http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/ http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being narrow minded. -------------------- Sure there a few that rise above the life in the inner city. Damn few. When you have a 36% graduation rate, very few are going to be employable except by drug dealers. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:07:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also. Salmonbait If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare or let them starve to death? What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids. ------------------------------ What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing. They should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can. Huh? They barely have enough food, and welfare doesn't guarantee housing. Yeah, scratching around for baby formula and going from shelter to shelter in the winter gives people lots of time on their hands. No doubt you've never received anything from the government. You built your own roads, you police your neighborhood, you put out your own fires, you check your food for toxins, you make sure the planes don't fly into each other, you don't give a **** if a product is dangerous, because you check that yourself, you certainly don't get anything for your taxes (oh wait, you don't pay taxes, so never mind), you didn't benefit enormously from public education, you don't get medicare or social security. Basically, you're a fungus. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. Maybe they think that they have no chance, so why bother. Yes, keep them uneducated, isn't that the right-wing motto? |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:57:24 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. "Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power." The liberal and union mantra. Salmonbait What liberal are you quoting? Herman Goring. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:27:03 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented, you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong. That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the once a decade lottery. Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state. Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you talk in generalities with no justification. It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs. The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity. Try making some sense next time. ========================== Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100 grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000 more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200 to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else. At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued. Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease. Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. I love you're quoting something from 45 years ago... like that has any relevence. It's like saying the real cost of getting a license plate sticker includes the price of the car. Complete bs. You and Gretwel should get a room. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:56:43 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:32:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Again, CITE? Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a mere $175k. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/ One county makes up the whole state???? From YOUR cite: In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license cost Well, that's his ticket. It's all "personal" experience and ancedote. Not actual facts. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:50:08 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:09 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:24:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:07:15 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:23:07 -0400, wrote: Investors on startups are not really that easy to find for a person who has never done anything.. You only hear about the people who find one, The rest are still starving in their garage. So, you can't find an investor? You know this? I thought liquor licenses were valuable? You're telling me an investor wouldn't devote some time to make sure it was run correctly??? Good grief. That assumes the investor knows anything about running a store, picking the right location, hiring the right people and if that was true, why does he need YOU? Yeah, because investors don't know anything nor care where they put there money? Because you got da license dummy. I thought you said they were hard to get? I said they were expensive to get. An investor is not going to give you that kind of money if you can't convince him you have a chance of operating the business. Never heard of hands on investors? Wow. I thought you were a smart guy. |
Brewing economic scandal
"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:07:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also. Salmonbait If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare or let them starve to death? What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids. ------------------------------ What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing. They should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can. Huh? They barely have enough food, and welfare doesn't guarantee housing. Yeah, scratching around for baby formula and going from shelter to shelter in the winter gives people lots of time on their hands. No doubt you've never received anything from the government. You built your own roads, you police your neighborhood, you put out your own fires, you check your food for toxins, you make sure the planes don't fly into each other, you don't give a **** if a product is dangerous, because you check that yourself, you certainly don't get anything for your taxes (oh wait, you don't pay taxes, so never mind), you didn't benefit enormously from public education, you don't get medicare or social security. Basically, you're a fungus. ----------------------- Sure I got public education and drive on the roads. Also pay a lot of taxes. When working 60 hours a week etc. Both as an engineer in the Silicon valley and running a construction equipment leasing company on the side. You have never dealt with the welfare poor from what I see. They knew all the angles. We would hire welfare people to clean up the storage yard at times. Now these are 4 or 5th generation welfare recipients. Some would state they would work for free for us for the day if we gave them a check for say $350 and they would sign it back to us. Gave them enough income to go back on unemployment for 6 months. We never did, as against my principals. I know about government oversight. part of my career was embedded software in biomedical devices, dealing with the FDA. And welfare in California is pretty good. Equivalent to about $18k a year. And if it is so bad, why do we have so many repeat families on welfare? I was a working student! Paid my way through university while working full time. No student loans. As to student loans, heard on the radio about a month ago, that most people leave college owing less than $25,000. Very small percentage with $100k+ loans. Maybe they should have work studied more. And I get Social Security. Will be 70 is a couple weeks. But, I still do not understand where SS became the national retirement system I and my employers paid in about $400k to my account. Medicare a bunch also. There is no upper limit on Medicare earnings. |
Brewing economic scandal
"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:27:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented, you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong. That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the once a decade lottery. Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state. Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you talk in generalities with no justification. It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs. The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity. Try making some sense next time. ========================== Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100 grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000 more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200 to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else. At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued. Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease. Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. I love you're quoting something from 45 years ago... like that has any relevence. It's like saying the real cost of getting a license plate sticker includes the price of the car. Complete bs. You and Gretwel should get a room. ------------------------ Well ****head, how do you get a license when the state is not selling them, and only a few get raffled off every 10 years? You pay the going rate which is not the state price, it is the private sale rate! |
Brewing economic scandal
In article ,
says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. ----------------- unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are thinking about education. There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow category. What do you say about the lack of support or changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting from ignorance. http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/ http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being narrow minded. -------------------- Sure there a few that rise above the life in the inner city. Damn few. When you have a 36% graduation rate, very few are going to be employable except by drug dealers. Actually, high school graduation rates aren't all that telling of the college entrance rate. |
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J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/22/13 12:05 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters. And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got into the system without an apprenticeship. You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field, among many other things. I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields. On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s). Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit. We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school (IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career teachers so they brought real life experience to the class. The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor. Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." We had three Ph.D's in our public high school, teaching physics, history and one other area, Russian, maybe, and a lot of student teachers from schools of education at Southern Connecticut State College (now University) and Yale, both in New Haven. Sadly, a few years after I graduated from my high school, there was some minor racial unrest in parts of New Haven, and that precipitated a serious amount of unnecessary white flight to the farther out suburbs. The Bobby Seale trial a couple of years later didn't help, either. I've been pleased in my recent trips to New Haven to see a revival in many areas, though the crime rate is still too high. Now we know why you're so perfect...all those Ph.D.'s in your high school. Wow. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. A teacher like you would have been fired the first week. |
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On 22 Mar 2013 20:00:43 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:
J Herring wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/22/13 12:05 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters. And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got into the system without an apprenticeship. You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field, among many other things. I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields. On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s). Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit. We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school (IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career teachers so they brought real life experience to the class. The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor. Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." We had three Ph.D's in our public high school, teaching physics, history and one other area, Russian, maybe, and a lot of student teachers from schools of education at Southern Connecticut State College (now University) and Yale, both in New Haven. Sadly, a few years after I graduated from my high school, there was some minor racial unrest in parts of New Haven, and that precipitated a serious amount of unnecessary white flight to the farther out suburbs. The Bobby Seale trial a couple of years later didn't help, either. I've been pleased in my recent trips to New Haven to see a revival in many areas, though the crime rate is still too high. Now we know why you're so perfect...all those Ph.D.'s in your high school. Wow. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. A teacher like you would have been fired the first week. It's for sure I'd not have been qualified to teach you. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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On 3/22/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 22 Mar 2013 20:00:43 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/22/13 12:05 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters. And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got into the system without an apprenticeship. You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field, among many other things. I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields. On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s). Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit. We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school (IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career teachers so they brought real life experience to the class. The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor. Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." We had three Ph.D's in our public high school, teaching physics, history and one other area, Russian, maybe, and a lot of student teachers from schools of education at Southern Connecticut State College (now University) and Yale, both in New Haven. Sadly, a few years after I graduated from my high school, there was some minor racial unrest in parts of New Haven, and that precipitated a serious amount of unnecessary white flight to the farther out suburbs. The Bobby Seale trial a couple of years later didn't help, either. I've been pleased in my recent trips to New Haven to see a revival in many areas, though the crime rate is still too high. Now we know why you're so perfect...all those Ph.D.'s in your high school. Wow. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. A teacher like you would have been fired the first week. It's for sure I'd not have been qualified to teach you. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. No, I wasn't in the "slow kids" divisions. |
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. ----------------- unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are thinking about education. There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow category. What do you say about the lack of support or changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting from ignorance. http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/ http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being narrow minded. -------------------- Sure there a few that rise above the life in the inner city. Damn few. When you have a 36% graduation rate, very few are going to be employable except by drug dealers. Actually, high school graduation rates aren't all that telling of the college entrance rate. -------------------------------- I said nothing about college entrance. How many of those 65% drop outs could even finish the entrance exams? Either they could not read or write most of the tests. When we got rid of the shop classes etc. in the schools we were destined to have large dropout rate. 60% of the high school students should not go to college. They have either the lack of brains or the lack of gumption. We need the occupational classes for those people so they have an idea of what is available outside school for employment. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:08:49 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/22/13 5:04 PM, J Herring wrote: On 22 Mar 2013 20:00:43 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/22/13 12:05 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters. And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got into the system without an apprenticeship. You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field, among many other things. I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields. On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s). Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit. We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school (IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career teachers so they brought real life experience to the class. The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor. Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." We had three Ph.D's in our public high school, teaching physics, history and one other area, Russian, maybe, and a lot of student teachers from schools of education at Southern Connecticut State College (now University) and Yale, both in New Haven. Sadly, a few years after I graduated from my high school, there was some minor racial unrest in parts of New Haven, and that precipitated a serious amount of unnecessary white flight to the farther out suburbs. The Bobby Seale trial a couple of years later didn't help, either. I've been pleased in my recent trips to New Haven to see a revival in many areas, though the crime rate is still too high. Now we know why you're so perfect...all those Ph.D.'s in your high school. Wow. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. A teacher like you would have been fired the first week. It's for sure I'd not have been qualified to teach you. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. No, I wasn't in the "slow kids" divisions. That's what I'm sayin'. I'm sure you were AP from about 2d grade on...in everything! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:27:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented, you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong. That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the once a decade lottery. Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state. Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you talk in generalities with no justification. It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs. The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity. Try making some sense next time. ========================== Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100 grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000 more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200 to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else. At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued. Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease. Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. I love you're quoting something from 45 years ago... like that has any relevence. It's like saying the real cost of getting a license plate sticker includes the price of the car. Complete bs. You and Gretwel should get a room. Well that's pure horse**** that he wrote anyway. In CA every grocery store sells liquor. No need for liquor stores. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. -------------------------------- What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education. http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5 What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control. You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one narrow minded category. ----------------- unfortunately that is what the African-Americans in the inner city are thinking about education. There are many, many stories of inter-city AA's picking themselves up and making something of themselves. Again, the trouble I'm having is with you and other's narrow mindedness. You lump everyone into a narrow category. What do you say about the lack of support or changing the graduation rate. Seems as if the powers that be in Chicago are still the same powers that be for a lot of years. They seem to be profiting from ignorance. http://thegrio.com/2010/08/17/grim-g...ap-in-schools/ http://blackboysreport.org/state-reports/chicago I say it sucks, but it still has nothing to do with you and others being narrow minded. -------------------- Sure there a few that rise above the life in the inner city. Damn few. When you have a 36% graduation rate, very few are going to be employable except by drug dealers. Actually, high school graduation rates aren't all that telling of the college entrance rate. -------------------------------- I said nothing about college entrance. How many of those 65% drop outs could even finish the entrance exams? Either they could not read or write most of the tests. When we got rid of the shop classes etc. in the schools we were destined to have large dropout rate. 60% of the high school students should not go to college. They have either the lack of brains or the lack of gumption. We need the occupational classes for those people so they have an idea of what is available outside school for employment. Who said this: "How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level." |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/23/13 9:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:27:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented, you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong. That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the once a decade lottery. Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state. Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you talk in generalities with no justification. It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs. The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity. Try making some sense next time. ========================== Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100 grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000 more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200 to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else. At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued. Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease. Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. I love you're quoting something from 45 years ago... like that has any relevence. It's like saying the real cost of getting a license plate sticker includes the price of the car. Complete bs. You and Gretwel should get a room. Well that's pure horse**** that he wrote anyway. In CA every grocery store sells liquor. No need for liquor stores. Unless you want some sort of booze the grocery store doesn't sell. |
Brewing economic scandal
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Brewing economic scandal
On 3/23/13 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:16:16 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:48:33 -0400, wrote: $175,000 is not four figures So, the state fees are $175K? Citation please. The state fees are $10,750, still not four figures but the state does not have any licenses to sell unless they raise the quota (every 10 years) so you are in the private market, buying at whatever price the market will bear. It was $175,000 in Collier right in the middle of the recession. I bet you can't get one for that now. Taxi medallions are handled the same way in many cities. Owners of them resell them to the highest bidder. |
Brewing economic scandal
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Brewing economic scandal
On 3/23/2013 11:27 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/23/13 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the worst examples of vertical integration in the world. You mean, like being a physician? We're friends with two of my wife's professors from grad school, two aging ladies in their 80s now who have done more and seen more than you or I have. For 40 years, they've run a series of orphanages in China and other countries in that area of the world, mostly for "unwanted" girl babies and toddlers, and those operations required frequent trips abroad and sometimes nasty confrontations with the various governments, including that of Red China. They recently retired as Professors Emeritus. Oh, they're nuns. How do your real life experiences compare? Another of my friends, a fellow who sadly recently died, was on the faculty of a major university in the MidWest and also was deeply involved in Polish efforts to remove the communist government there, and in similar anti-dictatorship movements in other parts of the country, such as El Salvador. He was shot several times and imprisoned twice aboard. How do your real life experiences compare to my university buddy? You're just anti-academia. All this proves is you know of people who have done stuff. And we can't be sure that you aren't lying about it. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:56:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a mere $175k. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/ One county makes up the whole state???? From YOUR cite: In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license cost I can go to one of the auction sites and see what the other counties are doing. I bet it is as expensive around Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa Bay and Orlando tho. You might be able to catch a deal and get one for $90,000 in Dixie County but I would not bet on it.. What part of "quota" are you having trouble understanding? If you could just go down to the county clerk and plop down $10,750 and get a license, why would anyone pay $175,000? (BTW that is exactly the 10X UA said couldn't happen) They only release new licenses after a census shows the quota can rise. That is the lottery I spoke of, typically once every 10 years. I suspect that as the economy improves, the prices will go up again. The above is speculation. These are the facts: First of all, you are only thinking about one type of Florida liquor license, the "quota license". The second liquor license Florida offers is an SRX, a special restaurant license that can be applied for year-round if 51 percent or more of sales at an establishment is food. FURTHERMORE, there are 54 subcategories of licenses based on the type of business you own. He http://www.florida-liquorlicense.com/html/faqs.html |
Brewing economic scandal
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Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:11:23 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. They have a quota on those licenses and they are mostly sold in the private markets. I have already pointed out that occasionally the state ups the quota and you can get in the lottery for one but that is literally a crap shoot. http://www.florida-liquorlicense.com/html/faqs.html |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:12:30 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:56:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:32:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Again, CITE? Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a mere $175k. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/ One county makes up the whole state???? From YOUR cite: In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license cost Well, that's his ticket. It's all "personal" experience and ancedote. Not actual facts. Now you are saying the Naples Daily News is wrong too. What part of "Lottery" are you having trouble understanding? Again, you are talking about ONE type of liquor license in Florida, and there are others. |
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