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"Urin Asshole" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:31:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . Huh? You think that'll skew it enough to make much difference? Go for it. Job skill and general education have only something to do with each other, as you've already pointed out. So basically you're full of ****. What's wrong with a general education????? ------------------------------------------ Your models are very outdated. The worst degree to get now-a-days in terms of jobs is a liberal arts degree. Bull****. Try hiring someone who doesn't know how to look at a report and figure out what's going on. Or create one that can be read by someone. The worst degree to get is none. Just about every undergrad degree program requires some pretty substantial "liberal arts" background to graduate. You're argument is that if it isn't engineering or programming, then you shouldn't go to school. That's total bull**** and wrong on the face of it. Oh, sorry for using bull****. I thought this was a boating group, but it seems like there are a bunch of ****ing pansies who can't stand the ****ing word. -------------------------------------- I'll repeat my statement. Read it slowly and with feeling: "The worst degree to get now-a-days in *terms of jobs* is a liberal arts degree." Don't believe it? Look it up. |
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On 3/18/13 7:40 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:36:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. Not much money in the prison system????? What???? On what planet? Institutions such as hospitals and prisons in Florida pay poorly. |
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On 3/18/13 7:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"Urin Asshole" wrote in message ... Military tuition. Hmmm.. sounds socialist to me. Of course, we could reeinstitute the draft. That'll motivate the kids. Sheesh. ---------------------------------------- It was a benefit ... not unlike civilian companies that offer tuition assistance for employees. It still exists except the program has been halted due to the sequester. Education benefits under the GI Bill (or whatever it's modern counterpart is called) is still in force when you leave the military but the tuition assistance for school while on active duty has been stopped .... hopefully temporarily. We had a friend who got his doctorate as a classmate of my wife's a couple of years ago...he was a military social working, treating front line troops. Got sent to Afghanistan and died when an IED blew up the truck in which he was riding. Really great guy. Military paid for his doctorate and the university helped him complete the requirements within the time limits the military allocated for him. It's a good deal that the military educates its troops...helps them be better, smarter soldiers and surely helps them transition to civilian life when they leave the service. |
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On Monday, March 18, 2013 1:54:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:25:10 -0700, Urin Asshole You think factory workers are the future? Jesus H. Christ that's a narrow view. What happens to that statistic when you take out the hedge fund managers, doctors and lawyers? What is the average salary for the regular BA who struggled with college, maybe taking 5 or even 6 years to complete his degree with very little job skill to show for it? Besides, aren't the usual liberal jerks in here constantly whining about the middle class going away (the FACTORY WORKERS) and now one of them is putting them down? They can't seem to get their stories straight. |
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On 3/18/2013 6:21 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:44:54 -0500, amdx wrote: What's ****ing stupid ****. You are so angry your sentence isn't making sense. Calm down. Have a happy day, Mikek :-) Only to ****ing stupid ****s like you. Have you been angry all day? Mikek |
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On 3/18/2013 12:26 AM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:15:08 -0500, amdx wrote: On 3/14/2013 9:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:35:51 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:09:12 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Those "lifetime earnings" stats don't account for kids who paid up for college but didn't succeed. They end up dropping out before they finish, or finish and end up working at Starbucks. ==== Not everyone who drops out of college ends up in a dead end job. Take a look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs for two notable examples. There are lots more. That's true, but those who don't go are much more likely to earn many thousands less over their lifetime. More true now than ever. Even four years is just the minimum now. Unless you start a business. Mikek Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point dip****. All this name calling, does it help your self esteem? Mikek |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:27:01 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... Yeah, it's all about the money, then when a new techology comes around, you can kiss that job goodbye. === This is not a new thing. Talk to the buggy whip manufacturers, wagon wheel makers, blacksmiths, vacuum tube makers, Kodak film developers, etc. The time are always a-changein. Exactly, continuing education is a MUST in most professions. In a lot of professions, it's the law. Just because you have a job in a specific field doesn't mean that you will be able to stay in the field your entire career. I agree completely. So, no point in have a broad education. Might as well focus on one thing. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:20:06 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point dip****. ==== There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. How about when the tough get educated, the tough can adapt. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:24:13 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:54:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/18/2013 1:13 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:56:54 -0400, wrote: Anyone who can fix engines in boats will always have work. ====== Yes, and at $85+/hour. LOL, how much of that goes to the guy with dirty nails:) ?? If he is an SP, he gets it all but he has expenses. And, without much education he won't be able to do any cipherin. |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:11:57 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:14:56 -0400, Wayne B wrote: Anyone who can fix engines in boats will always have work. ====== Yes, and at $85+/hour. LOL, how much of that goes to the guy with dirty nails:) ?? ======= It depends. Some guys take it all but pay for there own shop, truck and benefits. Some guys get 25%. Even at 25% it's a halfway decent living, and the smart, motivated guys save up and plan for going on their own. "Mikey" here only works on late model Yamahas and he knows how to say no if it is a basket case but he is still booked weeks in advance. He works out of a small SUV without a whole lot of overhead. He does have a lot of money tied up in tools. That is one reason he only picked a small range of motors to work on, just to keep the special tool inventory reasonable. There are plenty of late model Yamahas around. He really needs a manager tho. I bet he could charge more and I am sure he could use some time management skills. That is true of most small businesses tho. Sure... here you go.. http://www.inc.com/ss/best-industrie...ing-a-business Read up... http://www.entrepreneur.com/starting...ies/index.html |
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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In article ,
says... On 3/18/2013 2:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:24 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Sure. Everyone should do it. Except everyone can't. Moronic point dip****. ==== There once were a lot of opportunities for people who could hunt sabre tooth tigers with a spear. Should they have been guaranteed a job for life, retrained as basket weavers or just given welfare checks? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Exactly, a lot of people learned how to use a slide rule! When my oldest brother was in college, he was there at just the right time so that he first had a slide rule, then a T.I. calculator that could add, subtract, multiply, divide and GASP! do square roots! The problem is that kind of technology hits your typical "college graduate" job the hardest. If there wasn't a very strong engineer's union, most of those jobs would be replaced by a $100 CAD program. You are really just paying for the "stamp" anyway. Horse****. What "engineer's union" are you talking about? What "$100 CAD program" can analyze and economize a structure? How does this $100 CAD program analyze case by case seismic design? How does it analyze concrete floor loading and design? How does it analyze dynamic loads from equipment and or rack storage? How does it analyze site specific soil properties? In short, please show me this program, I'd love to have it, I'll be a millionaire in a week!! Nope, you're certainly not kevin:) Anyway, the program might not be 100 bucks, but if that program costs 10 grand and it could make you a millionaire in a week, what are you waiting for? I'm waiting for you to tell me just what program that is....... |
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In article ,
says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? |
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In article ,
says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also. Salmonbait If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare or let them starve to death? |
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On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. |
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On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ....trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? |
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On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. |
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In article ,
says... On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? And the lies continue........ |
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On 3/19/13 11:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? And the lies continue........ There's a lot of competition these days for tenure-track "professor" jobs at colleges and universities. |
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On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... |
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In article ,
says... On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... You should, lord knows you haven't done any hard work. |
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On 3/19/13 1:14 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... I had a short, undistinguished career while I was getting my M.A., teaching college level English courses to freshmen. The job paid me enough to fill in the holes left by my grad fellowship and my savings. I was pleased to be able to get college degrees that were not trade or profession oriented. Some years later, much to my surprise, while I was working for a Detroit PR/Ad firm, one of my clients hired me part-time as a consultant to teach alphabetization to adjunct staff working on SuperNUCAL, a project that produced the world's largest, dullest book. It was a 29-volume set of the card catalogue of the Library of Congress, with annual supplements to be released. Heady stuff for an etymologist with only an M.A. |
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On 3/19/13 1:32 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/19/2013 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 11:20 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 3/19/2013 11:14 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/19/13 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/18/2013 5:36 PM, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree. The problem is, once you move away from academia, there is not a lot of work in that field. We have a friend who grew up here with our daughter who got a MA and is working (or has) the PHD, She stayed in that field. She worked briefly in the prison business but there wasn't much money in it. She was supplementing her salary hustling real estate, then that business went to hell. She is now a professor at Hodges University. My daughter has her Masters and from what I know when she stops working for the not=profit she works for, she will probably end up being a professor. snerk in mixology? I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. ...trying to remember where I said she has all the paper she needs to get there.. Oh wait!? Even an assistant professor, the lowest academic ranking of professor, requires a Ph.D and sometimes additional work in a fellowship. We have a family member with a doctorate who was offered an associate professorship with tenure by two pretty good academic institutions, but turned the posts down because of all the internal politics concomitant with such employment. We applaud all of your hard work harry... You should, lord knows you haven't done any hard work. He worked in a food warehouse for a while. Stacking crates is hard work. I know, because I did it at Shick Razor in Milford, Connecticut, one college summer. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. HOw the **** would you know that? Oh, I get it, you're the all knowing all seeing one eyed oracle. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. Yes, how many times? Do they have access to all the things that the privliged white kids have in the burbs? Doubtful, and they get to dodge bullets on the way home from school (the run down one on the corner where the roof leaks and the teachers don't get hazzard pay). Sounds like you're blaming the kids because they aren't in an envirnment that gives them the opportunity to learn how to read. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. And, **** the rest. They dont deserve help. You're quite the humanitarian. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote: I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me too. It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in FT school. I had a whole lot easier life. Since then I am always at or near the top of my class. I think most students would be well served by going to a military school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4 year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people. The university system would never put up with it because there is a lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You pay by the hour not by the degree I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break. You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience. What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't count. I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been shot at twice. That is not what we were talking about tho is it? How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them barely read at the 8th grade level. If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of actually getting something out of it. Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also. Salmonbait If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare or let them starve to death? What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:05:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. I bet that is true. They buy what they sell. Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. Well, that's what I'm talking about. He talks the talk of an open-minded person, but deep down he's just like the rest. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:49:56 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:58:26 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:11:57 -0400, wrote: "Mikey" here only works on late model Yamahas and he knows how to say no if it is a basket case but he is still booked weeks in advance. He works out of a small SUV without a whole lot of overhead. He does have a lot of money tied up in tools. That is one reason he only picked a small range of motors to work on, just to keep the special tool inventory reasonable. There are plenty of late model Yamahas around. He really needs a manager tho. I bet he could charge more and I am sure he could use some time management skills. That is true of most small businesses tho. Sure... here you go.. http://www.inc.com/ss/best-industrie...ing-a-business Yeah those look like great businesses if you have $100,000 - $250,000 to capitalize with. Some are just ridiculous. A liquor license will set you back closer to a half million here. It cost us $70,000 in 1987 to set up a small flower store with used equipment. Well, then I guess you'll need something else first. Maybe work for 20 years as an auto-mechanic for someone else, so you can save up to buy a liquor store. What a fantastic life. |
Brewing economic scandal
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. ---------------------------------- I don't notice any disdain for academic achievement here. What I *do* notice is disdain exhibited by some for those who haven't pursued a college degree for whatever reasons they may have. I've also noticed that the more formal education some people have, the more they are of the opinion that the acquisition of degrees and titles automatically qualifies them as successful or somehow makes them "superior". I've known some people with enough advanced technical degrees and titles to saturate their business cards with ink but they were worthless in terms of accomplishing much of anything. Many of them simply became "professional paper givers" because they spent most of their careers attending technical conventions and seminars, giving papers on their latest research or brainfart. Some of this was valuable and served a purpose within the technical community but the real work of implementing the information or data for a useful purpose was left to the grunt engineers and technicians. Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. |
Brewing economic scandal
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Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. ---------------------------------- I don't notice any disdain for academic achievement here. What I *do* notice is disdain exhibited by some for those who haven't pursued a college degree for whatever reasons they may have. I've also noticed that the more formal education some people have, the more they are of the opinion that the acquisition of degrees and titles automatically qualifies them as successful or somehow makes them "superior". You know I've been around a while, and I have a college degree, and I don't look down on a plumber or a mechanic. I'm just glad I had the opportunity to get my degree and not have to fix toilets. Just about every laborer I've met wants to send their kids to college so they don't have to fix toilets or cars. I've known some people with enough advanced technical degrees and titles to saturate their business cards with ink but they were worthless in terms of accomplishing much of anything. And, I've know plenty of mechanics who couldn't change a tire without getting someone to read the manual to them. Well, ok, they were just incopentent and didn't fix whatever they were supposed to fix. Many of them simply became "professional paper givers" because they spent most of their careers attending technical conventions and seminars, giving papers on their latest research or brainfart. Some of this was valuable and served a purpose within the technical community but the real work of implementing the information or data for a useful purpose was left to the grunt engineers and technicians. Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. I've know professors who were highly competent and could tear down anything mechanical, repair it and get it together, same goes with electronics and programming. I've known some I wouldn't trust to open a door without hitting htemselves in the head. I've also know people without even a hs edu that had incredible street sense and good troubleshooting skills, but almost to a person they wished they'd stayed in school. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. Is anyone claiming that?? I didn't read it. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:18:09 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote: Well, then I guess you'll need something else first. Maybe work for 20 years as an auto-mechanic for someone else, so you can save up to buy a liquor store. What a fantastic life. === It's the great American way: work hard, save money, invest in the future. You have a problem with that? Too bad you didn't inherit any money from wealthy ancestors. That's the only easy way that has withstood the test of time. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. ==== Absolutely right. Education and knowledge are only valuable to the extent that you can use them effectively to accomplish something else. Almost everyone has met an educated fool at one time or another. |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/18/2013 6:29 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:46:22 -0500, amdx wrote: On 3/18/2013 11:53 AM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:51:02 -0500, amdx wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/cost-of-college-degree-in-u-s-soars-12-fold-chart-of-the-day.html Extreme college costs are due in a large part to the same philosophy of the mortgage mess. Everyone should be entitled to a college education so we'll (the gov't) will give people money to go. SO, the colleges see this as a cash cow and raise tuition. AND take a look at consumables, like text books, insanely costly. You said it iboaterer, Gov't has caused the explosive rise in college costs. And the mortgage mess was caused by the gov't too! I was so wrong I thought your answer for everything was more government. Healthcare inflation is next, but I'm sure you think that will be different. Mikek You're a ****in idiot. You are one angry liberal. Everything is going your way and you're still mad. You are one stupid ****. Calm down, I don't want to be responsible for a stroke! Mikek Then take your meds you ****ing moron. Never heard of taking personal responsibility? I thought that's what all your freaks insist on. Does your anger ever end? Please relax, find peace within. Stop and smell the roses. Does calling others negative names improve your self esteem? Are you angry that others would take personal responsibility? You seem to put a negative spin on personal responsibility. Have a great day, Mikek |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/20/2013 7:48 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/18/2013 6:29 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:46:22 -0500, amdx wrote: On 3/18/2013 11:53 AM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:51:02 -0500, amdx wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/cost-of-college-degree-in-u-s-soars-12-fold-chart-of-the-day.html Extreme college costs are due in a large part to the same philosophy of the mortgage mess. Everyone should be entitled to a college education so we'll (the gov't) will give people money to go. SO, the colleges see this as a cash cow and raise tuition. AND take a look at consumables, like text books, insanely costly. You said it iboaterer, Gov't has caused the explosive rise in college costs. And the mortgage mess was caused by the gov't too! I was so wrong I thought your answer for everything was more government. Healthcare inflation is next, but I'm sure you think that will be different. Mikek You're a ****in idiot. You are one angry liberal. Everything is going your way and you're still mad. You are one stupid ****. Calm down, I don't want to be responsible for a stroke! Mikek Then take your meds you ****ing moron. Never heard of taking personal responsibility? I thought that's what all your freaks insist on. Does your anger ever end? Please relax, find peace within. Stop and smell the roses. Does calling others negative names improve your self esteem? Are you angry that others would take personal responsibility? You seem to put a negative spin on personal responsibility. Have a great day, Mikek kevin, harry, don, and jps are cut from exactly the same mold... |
Brewing economic scandal
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:19:55 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. ==== Absolutely right. Education and knowledge are only valuable to the extent that you can use them effectively to accomplish something else. Almost everyone has met an educated fool at one time or another. Perhaps, but never a liberally artsy educated fool! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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