On Jan 23, 5:47*am, wrote:


I think there's more to it than just learning how to put holes in paper. *It seem obvious that some these days have no respect for life. *That's a lesson that gets taught at an early age, in my case partially by hunting with dad. *You learn that, by pointing and pulling the trigger at some living animal, it dies. *The first time I killed a deer it was exciting but also sobering, especially when helping to skin it and cut it up. *It's not as clean, neat, or fun as movies and video games make it appear. *Gives you some perspective.

It helped me understand that a gun is a tool for hunting and self, or home, defense. *It's not for conflict resolution, or to be used in anger. *And I still enjoyed the venison.

agreed!

On 1/23/13 7:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 23, 5:46 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/22/13 10:07 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 22, 7:46 pm, ESAD wrote:

Obviously, in a state of the stupid for the stupid, firing guns takes
precedence over teaching reading, writing, and math.

Really Harry, must you consistently interject like that?

The rifle team would be an extra curricular sport.

South Carolina public schools are well below average in the matters that
matter. The state shouldn't be wasting its meager educational abilities
resources on right-wing gun shootin' silliness when achievement in
reading, writing and arithmetic is so wanting.

"right wing?" Is all sports "right wing" as well?

You're interjecting again, Harry


Calling for gun-shooting classes in the public schools as the proponent
of the proposed South Carolina law is doing is a "right wing" wet dream,
Tim. I doubt you'd hear many "left wing" pols calling for gun shooting
classes in the public schools.

Sports itself is not a right-wing or left-wing thing, I would surmise.
But spending money on sports activities in K-12 public schools where
academic teaching is so lacking seems silly.

On 1/23/2013 7:56 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/23/13 7:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 23, 5:46 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/22/13 10:07 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 22, 7:46 pm, ESAD wrote:

Obviously, in a state of the stupid for the stupid, firing guns takes
precedence over teaching reading, writing, and math.

Really Harry, must you consistently interject like that?

The rifle team would be an extra curricular sport.

South Carolina public schools are well below average in the matters that
matter. The state shouldn't be wasting its meager educational abilities
resources on right-wing gun shootin' silliness when achievement in
reading, writing and arithmetic is so wanting.

"right wing?" Is all sports "right wing" as well?

You're interjecting again, Harry


Calling for gun-shooting classes in the public schools as the proponent
of the proposed South Carolina law is doing is a "right wing" wet dream,
Tim. I doubt you'd hear many "left wing" pols calling for gun shooting
classes in the public schools.

Sports itself is not a right-wing or left-wing thing, I would surmise.
But spending money on sports activities in K-12 public schools where
academic teaching is so lacking seems silly.

You have no right to criticize how any govt. spends the taxpayer's money.

In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:46:38 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:
South Carolina wants to teach kids to shoot guns...


I agree that the state should stay out of it... the schools shouldn't be teaching gun safety. That should be left up to the family. My dad taught me how to handle a gun safely... what to do, and not do. Unfortunately, many families these days don't have anything resembling a responsible parent to do that. That's why we see the gun violence we now have.

Schools should teach the three R's, and in your case, civic responsibility. Like how to pay your taxes, deadbeat harold. If you do, maybe one day you can have your name on a house again.

Speaking of which, I often wonder what happened to kids just learning by
watching others around them? I grew up on a farm in the sticks, and just
learned. Most things were just considered common sense. No one took me
to a firing range and taught me how to use a rifle or shotgun. I just
knew by watching and observing. Same with driving a tractor. No one gave
me "lessons". I'd sit on the tractor fender and watch and learn, waiting
for my time at the wheel. I watched as my two older brothers got to
drive first, and waited until one day my uncle said, "pull the tractor
over there". Of course, I soon learned it was actually a curse during
potato planting (cold and rainy) and harvesting (cold and rainy). It
just seems that now kids need to have a sit down formal teaching for
everything.

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says...

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:03:19 PM UTC-5, JustWait wrote:
On 1/22/2013 8:56 PM, wrote:

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:46:38 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:

South Carolina wants to teach kids to shoot guns...





I agree that the state should stay out of it... the schools shouldn't be teaching gun safety. That should be left up to the family. My dad taught me how to handle a gun safely... what to do, and not do. Unfortunately, many families these days don't have anything resembling a responsible parent to do that. That's why we see the gun violence we now have.



Schools should teach the three R's, and in your case, civic responsibility. Like how to pay your taxes, deadbeat harold. If you do, maybe one day you can have your name on a house again.





Just don't know where most parents would find a place to teach their

kids to shoot... All the places I would have gone when I was young, are

either houses, or private property... Not a practical solution. If kids

were all going to learn, school would be the place to do it. However I

would be against that.



If I want to learn to shoot, I would have to pay for a place to do it.

Well, maybe "I" wouldn't but most folks don't know as many outside types

as we do.

I think there's more to it than just learning how to put holes in paper. It seem obvious that some these days have no respect for life. That's a lesson that gets taught at an early age, in my case partially by hunting with dad. You learn that, by pointing and pulling the trigger at some living animal, it dies. The first time I killed a deer it was exciting but also sobering, especially when helping to skin it and cut it up. It's not as clean, neat, or fun as movies
and video games make it appear. Gives you some perspective.

It helped me understand that a gun is a tool for hunting and self, or home, defense. It's not for conflict resolution, or to be used in anger. And I still enjoyed the venison.

Oh, I like me some venison as well!!

In article ,
says...

On 1/23/13 7:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 23, 5:46 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/22/13 10:07 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 22, 7:46 pm, ESAD wrote:

Obviously, in a state of the stupid for the stupid, firing guns takes
precedence over teaching reading, writing, and math.

Really Harry, must you consistently interject like that?

The rifle team would be an extra curricular sport.

South Carolina public schools are well below average in the matters that
matter. The state shouldn't be wasting its meager educational abilities
resources on right-wing gun shootin' silliness when achievement in
reading, writing and arithmetic is so wanting.

"right wing?" Is all sports "right wing" as well?

You're interjecting again, Harry


Calling for gun-shooting classes in the public schools as the proponent
of the proposed South Carolina law is doing is a "right wing" wet dream,
Tim. I doubt you'd hear many "left wing" pols calling for gun shooting
classes in the public schools.

Sports itself is not a right-wing or left-wing thing, I would surmise.
But spending money on sports activities in K-12 public schools where
academic teaching is so lacking seems silly.

How would throwing money at the schools make them more academically
viable?

In article om,
says...

On 1/23/2013 7:56 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/23/13 7:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 23, 5:46 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/22/13 10:07 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 22, 7:46 pm, ESAD wrote:

Obviously, in a state of the stupid for the stupid, firing guns takes
precedence over teaching reading, writing, and math.

Really Harry, must you consistently interject like that?

The rifle team would be an extra curricular sport.

South Carolina public schools are well below average in the matters that
matter. The state shouldn't be wasting its meager educational abilities
resources on right-wing gun shootin' silliness when achievement in
reading, writing and arithmetic is so wanting.

"right wing?" Is all sports "right wing" as well?

You're interjecting again, Harry


Calling for gun-shooting classes in the public schools as the proponent
of the proposed South Carolina law is doing is a "right wing" wet dream,
Tim. I doubt you'd hear many "left wing" pols calling for gun shooting
classes in the public schools.

Sports itself is not a right-wing or left-wing thing, I would surmise.
But spending money on sports activities in K-12 public schools where
academic teaching is so lacking seems silly.

You have no right to criticize how any govt. spends the taxpayer's money.

You are correct, only those paying said taxes should have that right!!