Whatever the merits of "Stand Your Ground" laws, they appear to increase
homicides by at least 7%, reports NPR. It cites a Texas A&M study of the
23 states that have enacted "Stand Your Ground" laws since 2005.
Researchers looked at the homicide rate in those states pre- and
post-law, as well as the rates of non-Stand Your Ground states. It
determined between 500 and 700 additional homicides take place annually
as a result. "These laws lower the cost of using lethal force," says
Mark Hoekstra, the economist behind the study. "Our study finds that, as
a result, you get more of it. Homicides go up by 7% to 9% in states that
pass the laws."

http://tinyurl.com/ah9gucl

On Jan 3, 3:46*pm, ESAD wrote:
Whatever the merits of "Stand Your Ground" laws, they appear to increase
homicides by at least 7%, reports NPR. It cites a Texas A&M study of the
23 states that have enacted "Stand Your Ground" laws since 2005.
Researchers looked at the homicide rate in those states pre- and
post-law, as well as the rates of non-Stand Your Ground states. It
determined between 500 and 700 additional homicides take place annually
as a result. "These laws lower the cost of using lethal force," says
Mark Hoekstra, the economist behind the study. "Our study finds that, as
a result, you get more of it. Homicides go up by 7% to 9% in states that
pass the laws."

http://tinyurl.com/ah9gucl

I dont' agree with the assesment-

Chicago is a very "blue" city in a very 'blue' state, and it is no
"Stand your Ground" City in a no "stand your ground" state...and that
city has some of the strictest gun laws of any place in the nation and
the gun crime beats out NYC, Detroit, and just about every other
major metro area in our country.

Two homicides in the Chicago-land area on New Years eve and 5 already
this year

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/date/2013/1/

On Jan 3, 9:03*pm, Tim wrote:


Two homicides in the Chicago-land area on New Years eve and 5 already
this year

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/date/2013/1/


I take that back.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,6730065.story

On 1/3/13 10:03 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 3, 3:46 pm, ESAD wrote:
Whatever the merits of "Stand Your Ground" laws, they appear to increase
homicides by at least 7%, reports NPR. It cites a Texas A&M study of the
23 states that have enacted "Stand Your Ground" laws since 2005.
Researchers looked at the homicide rate in those states pre- and
post-law, as well as the rates of non-Stand Your Ground states. It
determined between 500 and 700 additional homicides take place annually
as a result. "These laws lower the cost of using lethal force," says
Mark Hoekstra, the economist behind the study. "Our study finds that, as
a result, you get more of it. Homicides go up by 7% to 9% in states that
pass the laws."

http://tinyurl.com/ah9gucl

I dont' agree with the assesment-

Chicago is a very "blue" city in a very 'blue' state, and it is no
"Stand your Ground" City in a no "stand your ground" state...and that
city has some of the strictest gun laws of any place in the nation and
the gun crime beats out NYC, Detroit, and just about every other
major metro area in our country.

Two homicides in the Chicago-land area on New Years eve and 5 already
this year

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/date/2013/1/


Which has nothing to do with the Texas A&M study.

On Jan 4, 5:39*am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/3/13 10:03 PM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 3, 3:46 pm, ESAD wrote:
Whatever the merits of "Stand Your Ground" laws, they appear to increase
homicides by at least 7%, reports NPR. It cites a Texas A&M study of the
23 states that have enacted "Stand Your Ground" laws since 2005.
Researchers looked at the homicide rate in those states pre- and
post-law, as well as the rates of non-Stand Your Ground states. It
determined between 500 and 700 additional homicides take place annually
as a result. "These laws lower the cost of using lethal force," says
Mark Hoekstra, the economist behind the study. "Our study finds that, as
a result, you get more of it. Homicides go up by 7% to 9% in states that
pass the laws."

http://tinyurl.com/ah9gucl

I dont' agree with the assesment-

Chicago is a very "blue" city in a very 'blue' state, and it is no
"Stand your Ground" *City in a no "stand your ground" state...and that
city has some of the strictest gun laws of any place in the nation and
the gun crime beats out NYC, *Detroit, and just about every other
major metro area in our country.

Two homicides in the Chicago-land area on New Years eve and 5 already
this year

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/date/2013/1/

Which has nothing to do with the Texas A&M study.

And the Texas A&M study has nothing to do with a boating news group

Neither does this for any matter-

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/t...dle-of-the-gun

On 1/4/13 7:25 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 4, 5:39 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/3/13 10:03 PM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 3, 3:46 pm, ESAD wrote:
Whatever the merits of "Stand Your Ground" laws, they appear to increase
homicides by at least 7%, reports NPR. It cites a Texas A&M study of the
23 states that have enacted "Stand Your Ground" laws since 2005.
Researchers looked at the homicide rate in those states pre- and
post-law, as well as the rates of non-Stand Your Ground states. It
determined between 500 and 700 additional homicides take place annually
as a result. "These laws lower the cost of using lethal force," says
Mark Hoekstra, the economist behind the study. "Our study finds that, as
a result, you get more of it. Homicides go up by 7% to 9% in states that
pass the laws."

http://tinyurl.com/ah9gucl

I dont' agree with the assesment-

Chicago is a very "blue" city in a very 'blue' state, and it is no
"Stand your Ground" City in a no "stand your ground" state...and that
city has some of the strictest gun laws of any place in the nation and
the gun crime beats out NYC, Detroit, and just about every other
major metro area in our country.

Two homicides in the Chicago-land area on New Years eve and 5 already
this year

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/date/2013/1/

Which has nothing to do with the Texas A&M study.

And the Texas A&M study has nothing to do with a boating news group

Neither do abo0ut 98% of the posts in this boating newsgroup.

And the Texas A&M study has nothing to do with a boating news group

Neither do abo0ut 98% of the posts in this boating newsgroup.


The 2% matters but your horse**** doesn't doesn't. Have you made enough
to pay your tax bill yet?

On 1/4/2013 4:25 AM, Tim wrote:

And the Texas A&M study has nothing to do with a boating news group
Neither does this for any matter-
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/t...dle-of-the-gun

Sam is a thoughtful and reasonable guy. I hope you've given all his
writings equal consideration.

On 1/4/13 12:33 PM, thumper wrote:
On 1/4/2013 4:25 AM, Tim wrote:

And the Texas A&M study has nothing to do with a boating news group
Neither does this for any matter-
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/t...dle-of-the-gun

Sam is a thoughtful and reasonable guy. I hope you've given all his
writings equal consideration.



Sam is also a well-known atheist who has strong thoughts that are
anti-religion.

On Jan 4, 11:33*am, thumper wrote:
On 1/4/2013 4:25 AM, Tim wrote:

And the Texas A&M study has nothing to do with a boating news group
Neither does this for any matter-
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/t...dle-of-the-gun

Sam is a thoughtful and reasonable guy. *I hope you've given all his
writings equal consideration.

I have on his firearm views....