On 12/16/2012 12:04 AM, Califbill wrote:
JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...

We have always had bullies. Why do we now seem to have to settle
everything with deadly violence? In the 1950's when I was in school, you
used fisticuffs, not guns, knives, baseball bats.


You asked a question, I answered it. I read a report today that
suggested mass murder was at it's worse here in the US around 1929...

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

What we really need, to help reduce the violence in our society, is more Democrat mayors in the
large population cities. That way more Democrat mayors can line their pockets while the uneducated
poor keep the violence curve at a high level.

Now, shut up and pay your taxes.

Here, this might give you an idea:

The Democrats have contributed greatly to the poor - by keeping them
poor.

Interesting........
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29..9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%
U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty
rate all have in common? Democrat mayors.


Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a
Republican mayor since 1961;


Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)...since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same
thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

On Dec 16, 7:08*am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. *He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did *this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,....

22 injured vs 27 dead. *Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe..

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...

On 12/16/12 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...



You didn't. It was implied. Sometimes John the Racist tries to be
subtle. Tries, but doesn't succeed.

John is so anti teachers' union, I'm sure every September he went to the
superintendent and insisted that his pay and bennies be cut to levels
they would have been without the teachers' union pressure for increase.
Right?

In article 81d78325-b30e-4e09-b93b-
, says...

On Dec 16, 7:08*am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. *He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did *this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. *Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...

Harry can't lash out about anything political these days due to the fact
that he has no credibility in that arena anymore. It is hard to chastise
people for their political views when they can throw your hypocritical
tax dodging and draft dodging activities right back in your face.

All Harry has left now is personal insults.

In article ,
says...

On 12/16/12 8:20 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:08 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/16/12 7:59 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:









On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:33:05 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...065-20121213,0,...

22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.

The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.

It's due to the European influence in our population. Just look at the demographics of our prison
populations. You'll get my point.

Ever the racist, hey, John the Racist?

What race was the shooter in Newtown, Connecticut?

Maybe I missed something in John's post, but I didn't see anything
'racist' in it. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...



You didn't. It was implied. Sometimes John the Racist tries to be
subtle. Tries, but doesn't succeed.

John is so anti teachers' union, I'm sure every September he went to the
superintendent and insisted that his pay and bennies be cut to levels
they would have been without the teachers' union pressure for increase.
Right?

Being anti-teachers union is not the sole domain of John. The teachers
unions have been screwing the children of this country for 75 years. The
teachers and their unions are only concerned with getting higher pay and
preserving their jobs. Why does a first-grade teacher need tenure? Why
does a high school teacher need tenure? Elementary and secondary schools
are not known for their research and thus tenure is not an issue.

In article , says...

On 12/15/2012 5:17 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/15/12 7:31 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:35:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 am, jps wrote:


He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

I wonder whose knives did this guy borrowed?

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


22 injured vs 27 dead. Knife vs. guns.

I know you're for real but I can't believe you're really that dense.


The United States has the most violent society in the modern western
world. That's probably not what most Americans want to hear or believe.


----------------------

Cite? Actually Mexico probably qualifies as number 1 at the present
time. Before that Columbia and some of the other South and Central
American countries. Most of the US violence is drug related. Same as
Mexico. Get rid of most of the drug laws, and have the government
control same drugs, and violence would fall much lower.


You mean harry made up a fact??? LOL! I am astonished

Uh, look at the URL I posted you stupid fool.

In article , says...

On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...

Ha!!! Scotties crying about bullies again...

In article , says...

On 12/16/2012 12:04 AM, Califbill wrote:
JustWait wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:47:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:41 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:51:38 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:16:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/14/2012 1:09 PM, jps wrote:

Where are you today? Hiding under a desk with your Chinese
screwdrivers?

Let's talk about gun rights today, while it's fresh in your mind.


Yeah, 18 babies ripped to pieces and you are looking to score
points in
a news group. What a ****ing coward..

Score points? No, I want to change minds about gun "rights" and how
deadly weapons should be managed in our society.

Glad your kid wasn't among the dead.

Well? How should deadly weapons be managed in our society?

I'm not a political or religious leader. I expect those who lead our
country to step up and have an adult conversation about what's
happening in our country.

We glorify war, we're arms dealers to the world, we love to solve our
problems in this country with violence and bravado. It's everwhere in
our culture.

Thinking that a violence-addled country can handle the free trade of
weapons and ammo is just ****ing nearsighted and foolish.

We need a dialogue with responsible members of society. Not the brain
stem idiots talking about prying their cold dead fingers.

Enough with the stupid talk, let's have a real discussion among
adults.

Actually we do need a real discussion. Too many are like you, blaming
guns. It is what is causing all this violence that should be discovered.
You are not going to limit guns. Use Mexico for an example. There is
only
one gun store in the country. You want to buy a firearm? Buy it from
the
army. You want ammunition? Buy it from the army. See How that has
limited
firearms and violence. This young man doing the shooting was an honor
student, and the teacher was his mother. Why did he decide a group of
children had to die along with Mom? That is the questions we need
answered, not how to limit firearms.

He had his mother's guns. He had mental problems.

----------------------------------------
So? Why did he have the insane desire to kill a bunch of small,
innocent children? That is what we need to discover. Why so many more
are going off the deep end. Is it all the additives in the diet? Too
many people congesting an area? Why?


Bullies...

We have always had bullies. Why do we now seem to have to settle
everything with deadly violence? In the 1950's when I was in school, you
used fisticuffs, not guns, knives, baseball bats.


You asked a question, I answered it. I read a report today that
suggested mass murder was at it's worse here in the US around 1929...

Cite?