In article , says...

On 9/23/2012 10:01 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G

uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of

the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing.


In this case, that means everything, idiot.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies

Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below.


USA Carrier 3G 4G


AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz)

Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned)

3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas.


... and he wonders why I don't bother answering his insane questions
Each and every time he gets slapped, he just moves on to the next
question. It's a progressive thing, like the issue over Romney's taxes

SHOW ME. I'll bet you can't show me where they use two different
antennas. That **** above is just stupid. IF that were true, you'd need
a different antenna every time you tuned your car radio to a different
frequency.

On 9/23/2012 10:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 9/23/2012 7:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...



On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote:

On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article m,

says...



On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article m,

says...



On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...



On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait

wrote:





It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow

minded and

thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas.



===



Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a

graduate EE.



If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a

lot.

We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of

2011.

4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was

very

spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been

getting

pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably

still a few problems.





I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any

service, is usually a place where nobody is Motocross tracks for

racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just

because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our

thing

without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case,

from

what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I

know use.

I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and

we have

the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was

addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless...



It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!



cite



Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G?

Really??? If

so you are dumber than Scotty!!



Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It

comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not.

Show some proof, idiot.



The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as

to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!!



The proof might be simple but you can't show it.



Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have

different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers

don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and

too much of an asshole to admit if he could...



Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than

they do for 3G....

If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array.

When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV.


I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why
there are so many on a tower if they only need one LOL! Maybe he
thinks the tower is the Antenna???

SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G
uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of
the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing.

What technical discipline are you schooled in?

SHOW ME, period. You can't.


There's our answer.

In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:35:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G



uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of



the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing.





In this case, that means everything, idiot.



From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies



Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below.





USA Carrier 3G 4G





AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz)



Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned)



3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas.



Nope. Same antenna. Prove me wrong.

From your own link:

"Advanced antenna systems

Main articles: MIMO and MU-MIMO

The performance of radio communications depends on an antenna system, termed smart or intelligent antenna. Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications. In the early 1990s, to cater for the growing data rate needs of data communication, many transmission schemes were proposed. One technology, spatial multiplexing, gained importance for its bandwidth conservation
and power efficiency. Spatial multiplexing involves deploying multiple antennas at the transmitter and at the receiver. Independent streams can then be transmitted simultaneously from all the antennas. This technology, called MIMO (as a branch of intelligent antenna), multiplies the base data rate by (the smaller of) the number of transmit antennas or the number of receive antennas. Apart from this, the reliability in transmitting high speed data in the fading channel can
be improved by using more antennas at the transmitter or at the receiver. This is called transmit or receive diversity. Both transmit/receive diversity and transmit spatial multiplexing are categorized into the space-time coding techniques, which does not necessarily require the channel knowledge at the transmitter. The other category is closed-loop multiple antenna technologies, which require channel knowledge at the transmitter."

I know this stuff is over your head, but they basically designed new, advanced antenna technology to enable the transmission of 4G signals.

"Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications."

Yeah, they use the same antennas that have been in place for years. ~snerk~

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

On 9/23/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/23/2012 10:01 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G

uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of

the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing.


In this case, that means everything, idiot.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies

Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below.


USA Carrier 3G 4G


AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz)

Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned)

3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas.


... and he wonders why I don't bother answering his insane questions
Each and every time he gets slapped, he just moves on to the next
question. It's a progressive thing, like the issue over Romney's taxes

SHOW ME. I'll bet you can't show me where they use two different
antennas. That **** above is just stupid. IF that were true, you'd need
a different antenna every time you tuned your car radio to a different
frequency.

You are unbelievably dense.

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot.

On 9/23/2012 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

Holy ****! LOL!

You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot.

In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot.

That is what YOU said!

In article , says...

On 9/23/2012 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

Holy ****! LOL!

You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot.


Uh, dumb ass, it was YOU that said you needed antennas of "different
lengths"......

On 9/23/2012 2:16 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot.

That is what YOU said!


Believe it!

On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:17:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 9/23/2012 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to
change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car.

Holy ****! LOL!

You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot.


Uh, dumb ass, it was YOU that said you needed antennas of "different
lengths"......

I have seen electricallly extended car antennae. Usually wired to
extend fully when you turn on the radio and retract when you turn it
off, but it would be easy to wire it for adjustabiliity.

Casady