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figgered out where harry is
On 9/21/2012 4:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? What makes you so sure? Show some evidence. |
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#33
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figgered out where harry is
On 9/21/2012 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01:55 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote: On 9/21/2012 4:31 PM, wrote: Folks who had Verison, and curiously enough, TracPhone, had perfect coverage all weekend long... That is the fact. That's because TracPhone uses Verizon's (and other) networks to supply their coverage. They don't have their own network. They buy time from the major players. Yup, couldn't talk to my wife for four days except when sprint managed to sneak out an email, once every few hours... The guy I rode up to the concession pulled out his 19 dollar tracphone and had 4 bars!!! LOL! |
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#34
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On 9/21/2012 8:40 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is  Motocross tracks forracing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite **** him.. I deal with 250 real people every weekend, not reading some perspective... LOL! |
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#35
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In article ,
says... On Friday, September 21, 2012 3:01:39 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! Bull****. In some cases they may share towers, but for the most part Verizon and Sprint maintain separate towers. Where do you come up with this stuff? I'm not talking about different carriers, dip****, I'm talking about 3g versue 4g, that's what this discussion is about. Where do YOU come up with this stuff? |
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#37
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In article ,
says... On Friday, September 21, 2012 4:21:37 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? You do realize that not every 3G tower has, or will get, a 4G install? His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. |
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#38
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In article m,
says... On 9/21/2012 4:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? What makes you so sure? Show some evidence. Look up at the tower..... |
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#39
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In article , says...
On 9/21/2012 4:31 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 3:01:39 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is Motocross tracks forracing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! Bull****. In some cases they may share towers, but for the most part Verizon and Sprint maintain separate towers. Where do you come up with this stuff? The guy is a ****ing asshole, that's where. I couldn't get out all weekend at all, never got even one bar with my VM phone, coverage was in and out all weekend at Sprint, mostly, say 90% of the time, no signal. Folks who had Verison, and curiously enough, TracPhone, had perfect coverage all weekend long... That is the fact. Jess and I didn't get any bars for 18 miles in one direction over the weekend looking for gas and ice, and on the way in and out (from the other direction) 12 miles till we could make a call with VM... That is called COVERAGE, moron, not "speed"... |
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#40
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In article m,
says... On 9/21/2012 11:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:30 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... He's been camping out at the Apple store the last few days, hoping to be one of the first to get the new I phone. Yeah, they FINALLY got up to 4G, where everybody else has been for two years! Not everybody. 4G is still a little spotty. Everybody, AT&T, Verizon, TMobile, Sprint all have 4G coverage. Apple didn't until now have a phone capable of 4G. I was talking about people. I thought you were too. Choose your words more carefully. Learn to comprehend. The subject in the original post was about APPLE.... You are uncomprehensable. To you. |
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