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On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:45:29 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:57:52 -0700, jps wrote:

Is a gun like a virus, a car, tobacco or alcohol? Yes say public
health experts, who in the wake of recent mass shootings are calling
for a fresh look at gun violence as a social disease.

By MARILYNN MARCHIONE
AP Chief Medical Writer

MILWAUKEE —
Is a gun like a virus, a car, tobacco or alcohol? Yes say public
health experts, who in the wake of recent mass shootings are calling
for a fresh look at gun violence as a social disease.

What we need, they say, is a public health approach to the problem,
like the highway safety measures, product changes and driving laws
that slashed deaths from car crashes decades ago, even as the number
of vehicles on the road rose.

One example: Guardrails are now curved to the ground instead of having
sharp metal ends that stick out and pose a hazard in a crash.

"People used to spear themselves and we blamed the drivers for that,"
said Dr. Garen Wintemute, an emergency medicine professor who directs
the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of
California, Davis.

Next time you or your family is mugged I hope you have a safe guard
rail for protection.

You'd be stupid enough to reach for a weapon if your family is being
mugged? Really?

Sounds like a sure bet for someone to get killed or maimed. I don't
think that's worth losing earthly possessions. Are your cash and
credit cards worth dying over?

Eisboch[_8_]

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:45:29 -0400, wrote:

Next time you or your family is mugged I hope you have a safe guard
rail for protection.

You'd be stupid enough to reach for a weapon if your family is being
mugged? Really?

Sounds like a sure bet for someone to get killed or maimed. I don't
think that's worth losing earthly possessions. Are your cash and
credit cards worth dying over?

--------------------------------------------------------

A mugging is different than a robbery.
A mugging is an assault upon a person usually with the intent to rob.
If assaulted, it is permissible under US law for civilians acting on
their own behalf to engage in violence for the sake of defending one's
own life or the lives of others, including the use of deadly force.

But you better be ready to prove that it was necessary.

X ` Man[_3_]

On 8/11/12 8:31 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:45:29 -0400, wrote:

Next time you or your family is mugged I hope you have a safe guard
rail for protection.

You'd be stupid enough to reach for a weapon if your family is being
mugged? Really?

Sounds like a sure bet for someone to get killed or maimed. I don't
think that's worth losing earthly possessions. Are your cash and
credit cards worth dying over?

--------------------------------------------------------

A mugging is different than a robbery.
A mugging is an assault upon a person usually with the intent to rob.
If assaulted, it is permissible under US law for civilians acting on
their own behalf to engage in violence for the sake of defending one's
own life or the lives of others, including the use of deadly force.

But you better be ready to prove that it was necessary.

Except, of course, in Florida.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Earl[_37_]

X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:31 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:45:29 -0400, wrote:

Next time you or your family is mugged I hope you have a safe guard
rail for protection.

You'd be stupid enough to reach for a weapon if your family is being
mugged? Really?

Sounds like a sure bet for someone to get killed or maimed. I don't
think that's worth losing earthly possessions. Are your cash and
credit cards worth dying over?

--------------------------------------------------------

A mugging is different than a robbery.
A mugging is an assault upon a person usually with the intent to rob.
If assaulted, it is permissible under US law for civilians acting on
their own behalf to engage in violence for the sake of defending one's
own life or the lives of others, including the use of deadly force.

But you better be ready to prove that it was necessary.

Except, of course, in Florida.

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.

Earl[_37_]

wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:18:37 -0400, Earl
wrote:

Except, of course, in Florida.

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

JustWait[_2_]

On 8/13/2012 9:10 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:18:37 -0400, Earl
wrote:

Except, of course, in Florida.

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

Wow, another harry krause.. perfect... plonk

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article , says...

On 8/13/2012 9:10 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:18:37 -0400, Earl
wrote:

Except, of course, in Florida.

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

Wow, another harry krause.. perfect... plonk

What would you have done if some cop wannabe confronted you in the dark,
you didn't know what he wanted, didn't know him, he didn't identify
himself, etc.? Lay down like a coward?

JustWait[_2_]

On 8/13/2012 10:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:10:31 -0400, Earl
wrote:

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

You are assuming things that are not in evidence. There is no proof
that he did anything but watch Martin.

Zimmerman's defense fund was started over a month after the shooting
and after he was convicted in the media,

yes, but msnbc told him differently and he doesn't want any more info
than that...

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article , says...

On 8/13/2012 10:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:10:31 -0400, Earl
wrote:

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

You are assuming things that are not in evidence. There is no proof
that he did anything but watch Martin.

Zimmerman's defense fund was started over a month after the shooting
and after he was convicted in the media,

yes, but msnbc told him differently and he doesn't want any more info
than that...

Bull****, FOX told you righties that Zimmerman is innocent and you've
went with that.

Earl[_37_]

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:10:31 -0400, Earl
wrote:

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.
You are assuming things that are not in evidence. There is no proof
that he did anything but watch Martin.

Zimmerman's defense fund was started over a month after the shooting
and after he was convicted in the media,
It was less than a week, IIRC.

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