On 8/14/2012 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:34:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 8/13/2012 9:10 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:18:37 -0400, Earl
wrote:

Except, of course, in Florida.

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

Wow, another harry krause.. perfect... plonk

What would you have done if some cop wannabe confronted you in the dark,
you didn't know what he wanted, didn't know him, he didn't identify
himself, etc.? Lay down like a coward?

So now you admit Martin attacked Zimmerman?


I really don't know what I might do if I was stupid enough to be in a
gated community where I claimed at least partial residence, and despite
the signs posted, didn't know I might be confronted by a neighborhood
watch? Humm, just don't know...

In article , says...

On 8/14/2012 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:34:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 8/13/2012 9:10 PM, Earl wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:18:37 -0400, Earl
wrote:

Except, of course, in Florida.

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.

Wow, another harry krause.. perfect... plonk

What would you have done if some cop wannabe confronted you in the dark,
you didn't know what he wanted, didn't know him, he didn't identify
himself, etc.? Lay down like a coward?

So now you admit Martin attacked Zimmerman?


I really don't know what I might do if I was stupid enough to be in a
gated community where I claimed at least partial residence, and despite
the signs posted, didn't know I might be confronted by a neighborhood
watch? Humm, just don't know...

You think it was "stupid" of Martin to be walking to the place he was
staying? And how was he to know Zimmerman was a "neighborhood" watchman?

On 8/14/2012 3:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:35:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

So now you admit Martin attacked Zimmerman?


I really don't know what I might do if I was stupid enough to be in a
gated community where I claimed at least partial residence, and despite
the signs posted, didn't know I might be confronted by a neighborhood
watch? Humm, just don't know...

You think it was "stupid" of Martin to be walking to the place he was
staying? And how was he to know Zimmerman was a "neighborhood" watchman?

The stupid or suspicious thing is "walking slowly in the rain and
looking INTO cars". (from the police call)



Not my thought... My thinking was, how stupid do you have to be to be in
a gated, posted community, and not know the guy coming up to you with a
flashlight might be a neighborhood watch person... Or be stupid enough
to punch someone for asking a question you don't want to answer...

On 8/14/12 3:45 PM, JustWait wrote:

Not my thought... My thinking was, how stupid do you have to be to be in
a gated, posted community, and not know the guy coming up to you with a
flashlight might be a neighborhood watch person... Or be stupid enough
to punch someone for asking a question you don't want to answer...


But...isn't that what a sawed-off little hothead like you would do? Try
to punch first and get interrogated later?




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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:35:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

So now you admit Martin attacked Zimmerman?


I really don't know what I might do if I was stupid enough to be in a
gated community where I claimed at least partial residence, and despite
the signs posted, didn't know I might be confronted by a neighborhood
watch? Humm, just don't know...

You think it was "stupid" of Martin to be walking to the place he was
staying? And how was he to know Zimmerman was a "neighborhood" watchman?

The stupid or suspicious thing is "walking slowly in the rain and
looking INTO cars". (from the police call)

And you automatically believe everything Zimmerman, a known liar, has
said?

In article , says...

On 8/14/2012 3:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:35:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

So now you admit Martin attacked Zimmerman?


I really don't know what I might do if I was stupid enough to be in a
gated community where I claimed at least partial residence, and despite
the signs posted, didn't know I might be confronted by a neighborhood
watch? Humm, just don't know...

You think it was "stupid" of Martin to be walking to the place he was
staying? And how was he to know Zimmerman was a "neighborhood" watchman?

The stupid or suspicious thing is "walking slowly in the rain and
looking INTO cars". (from the police call)



Not my thought... My thinking was, how stupid do you have to be to be in
a gated, posted community, and not know the guy coming up to you with a
flashlight might be a neighborhood watch person... Or be stupid enough
to punch someone for asking a question you don't want to answer...

You automatically ASSume that a person walking up to you at night is a
nice, innocent neighborhood watchman? And where did the flashlight come
from all of a sudden? And you know that Martin punched Zimmerman just
because he asked him a question HOW?

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:10:31 -0400, Earl
wrote:

FL laws are solid. Zimmerman was wrong and guilty of manslaughter IMO.
Unless Zimmerman's story is true and Martin attacked him.
If some cop-wannabe douche bag was chasing me around against police
orders I might have confronted him, too. The fact that Zimmerman set up
a defense fund immediately after the shooting is odd. The lies about
that fund that followed are enough for me to make a decision.
You are assuming things that are not in evidence. There is no proof
that he did anything but watch Martin.

Zimmerman's defense fund was started over a month after the shooting
and after he was convicted in the media,
It was less than a week, IIRC.

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says...

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:08:59 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

You automatically ASSume that a person walking up to you at night is a
nice, innocent neighborhood watchman?

You have automatically ASSumed Zimmerman walked up to Martin.
Cite?

The conversation with dispatch. Zimmerman SAID he was going to.