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Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 03:12 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....

There's your answer John.

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 03:35 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 10:02 AM, X ` Man wrote:


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


ROTHFLMAO Harry, you are priceless. Is he your twin brother?

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 04:13 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:35:00 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 8/11/2012 10:02 AM, X ` Man wrote:


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


ROTHFLMAO Harry, you are priceless. Is he your twin brother?


Unreal.

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 04:14 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:57:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


Well, Kevin, I suppose that's as literate as I could expect from a liberal.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 04:25 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/11/12 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


The only people I insult are ****heads like you and Herring.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 04:26 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....

There's your answer John.


John doesn't realize he's a very bigoted old fart?

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 04:27 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:57:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


Well, Kevin, I suppose that's as literate as I could expect from a liberal.


And you are still very bigoted. And an asshole. Hey, are you really so
stupid that you think I'm Kevin?

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 04:33 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 11:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 8/11/12 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?

****ing bigoted *******....


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


The only people I insult are ****heads like you and Herring.



You insult everyone here almost every day you are here. I'll keep track
for you, eh?

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 04:36 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:54:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.


The current answer I am hearing from the victims was that this
evaluation should have immediately been put in the FBI NCIC database
and available to anyone who is willing to look for it, including the
firearms background check.
Unfortunately that would also be available to credit agencies,
employers and insurance companies. (hence the privacy concern)



I'm not sure, but I don't think HIPAA allows that.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 05:52 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:36:44 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:26 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:54:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

The current answer I am hearing from the victims was that this
evaluation should have immediately been put in the FBI NCIC database
and available to anyone who is willing to look for it, including the
firearms background check.
Unfortunately that would also be available to credit agencies,
employers and insurance companies. (hence the privacy concern)



I'm not sure, but I don't think HIPAA allows that.


Therein lies the problem doesn't it. Public safety vs privacy.

You end up finding yourself in exactly the same position as the NRA
and I am sure you are both uncomfortable there.
Should a doctor or psychologist be able to put an entry in the NCIC
that would block a gun sale and how do you do that without also
telling everyone else why.
It does open up the question, what else would that information be used
for?
Would employers avoid hiring that person?
Would landlords not rent to them?
Would it affect their credit score?
Would they have problems getting accepted to college?
That would, in effect, be like having "a police record" with all the
ramifications that implies.



I would have no objection to requiring those seeking a concealable
handgun to subject themselves to a serious "pass/fail" psychological
exam by a licensed practitioner. This isn't foolproof, of course, but it
might screen out some sociopaths. Of course, the screens would be
subject to the wrath of the subjects. And of course, where would the
results of the test be entered.

I've never claimed keeping guns out of the hands of the crazies is easy,
but we sure need to at least start a rational dialogue about how to do it.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.


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