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X ` Man[_3_] August 12th 12 02:10 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/12/12 9:00 AM, North Star wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:54 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...











On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:


Sometimes less complicated is better.


I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.


With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.


My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.


You can daisy change wireless access points.


The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)


Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.


Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.


We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.


Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.


If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.


Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple
of different labels at a time.


Or even one label. You can't safely run sheets of the usual laser labels
through a laser printer more than once with risking labels coming loose
from the sheet and gumming up the printer.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 12th 12 02:35 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article 4a8e7641-808f-46a0-a2fd-ecb16142b519
@p18g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 12, 9:54*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...











On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:


Sometimes less complicated is better.


I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.


With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.


My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.


You can daisy change wireless access points.


The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)


Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.


Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? *That's insane
and probably BS.


We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.


Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.


If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.


Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple
of different labels at a time.


I have no problem doing that. Do you?

iBoaterer[_2_] August 12th 12 02:36 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/12/12 9:00 AM, North Star wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:54 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...











On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

Sometimes less complicated is better.

I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.

You can daisy change wireless access points.

The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)

Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.

Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.

We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.

Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.

If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.


Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple
of different labels at a time.


Or even one label. You can't safely run sheets of the usual laser labels
through a laser printer more than once with risking labels coming loose
from the sheet and gumming up the printer.


Bull****. I do it on a daily basis.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 12th 12 02:37 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

Sometimes less complicated is better.

I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.


You can daisy change wireless access points.

The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)



Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.

Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.


We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.

Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.


If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.



You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the
consideration I usually do...which is...none at all.


Yeah, stupid and ignorant people usually are that way because they don't
take "advice", which is learning.

X ` Man[_3_] August 12th 12 02:44 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/12/12 9:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

Sometimes less complicated is better.

I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.


You can daisy change wireless access points.

The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)



Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.

Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.


We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.

Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.

If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.



You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the
consideration I usually do...which is...none at all.


Yeah, stupid and ignorant people usually are that way because they don't
take "advice", which is learning.



I always consider "the source" in advice. You're an asshole, and
you've never posted one clever remark here, or, in fact, anything that
demonstrates you know anything. And you repeat yourself ad nauseum.

Realistically, you are one half step up the evolutionary ladder from
your former buddy, PsychoScotty. There is no reason to seriously
consider any suggestion you make about anything.

When HP used to include extensive user manuals with its laser printers,
it specifically warned against feeding through label sheets more than
once. I've seen nothing in laser printer technology that would negate
that advice.

If you do it, you're a dumbass. But, then, we already knew that.

In the future, you can save yourself keystrokes by not offering me
suggestions or advice because you'll know you are wasting your effort. I
don't give a **** what passes for thoughts in your miniscule mind.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 12th 12 03:13 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/12/12 9:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

Sometimes less complicated is better.

I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.


You can daisy change wireless access points.

The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)



Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.

Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.


We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.

Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.

If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.



You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the
consideration I usually do...which is...none at all.


Yeah, stupid and ignorant people usually are that way because they don't
take "advice", which is learning.



I always consider "the source" in advice. You're an asshole, and
you've never posted one clever remark here, or, in fact, anything that
demonstrates you know anything. And you repeat yourself ad nauseum.


Really? I know how to print labels without a printer that is dedicated
to ONLY labels, and do so daily.

Realistically, you are one half step up the evolutionary ladder from
your former buddy, PsychoScotty. There is no reason to seriously
consider any suggestion you make about anything.


You don't know a damned thing about me, all of the above is nothing but
bull**** deflection, insults and name calling as usual.

When HP used to include extensive user manuals with its laser printers,
it specifically warned against feeding through label sheets more than
once. I've seen nothing in laser printer technology that would negate
that advice.


I'm sure you have evidence of that, correct?

If you do it, you're a dumbass. But, then, we already knew that.


Show me anything that says that it's not a good idea.

In the future, you can save yourself keystrokes by not offering me
suggestions or advice because you'll know you are wasting your effort. I
don't give a **** what passes for thoughts in your miniscule mind.


Exactly, that's why you are dumb, you refuse to learn.



BAR[_2_] August 12th 12 03:29 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:12:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:47:05 -0400,
wrote:

Google up "wireless usb extender". There are a bunch of them
available.


... for $350-400 a pop.

I am not one of you 1%ers ;-)


===

I don't recall the words cheap or inexpensive in your requirements
document. :-)


With 3 CBS walls between my computer and the spot I want the other
end, I am far from convinced the thing would work anyway. WiFi
doesn't.
To make it work I would have to put the transmitter in the attic to
get above the walls, running a wire down to the PC and at that point
why not just throw the wire over to the end of the house and save
$340.

I am old school anyway I like wire.


===

Luddite !


Card carrying member !

My wife is the Wi-Fi person. I have the WiFing set up for her.

I set up a structured wiring system in my house 15 years ago and I
have CAT 5 and RG-6 coax just about everywhere.


Too bad you can't run multi-gigabit on your CAT 5 :)



BAR[_2_] August 12th 12 09:41 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:29:21 -0400, BAR wrote:

I set up a structured wiring system in my house 15 years ago and I
have CAT 5 and RG-6 coax just about everywhere.


Too bad you can't run multi-gigabit on your CAT 5 :)

My LAN is running one gigabit now, over 3x the fastest WiFi speed you
can get.
Back in my IBM days they told us you could really get more like 3GB on
copper if everything was conditioned right.
The 1GB comes from using all 8 wires in the CAT 5 instead of only 4
like 10/100. They still can't count on installers to properly make up
the keystones to fully exploit the cable.


We moved into a formerly IBM building with the TR and TP wires
piggybacked. We ran phone and low speed data (19.2) on the TR wires and
ran TCP/IP on the two 8 pair and sometimes ran phone and TCP/IP. We
could fit two people in each office. IBM sure did have a funny system
for sizing offices. None of the offices were the same size.

Earl[_37_] August 14th 12 01:59 AM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...
On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

Sometimes less complicated is better.
I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.

You can daisy change wireless access points.
The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)


Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.

Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.


We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.

Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.

If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.

He could network a wireless scanner/printer but they seem to inhabit two
different areas of the house with the need to limit interaction.

Earl[_37_] August 14th 12 01:59 AM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
North Star wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:54 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...











On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:
Sometimes less complicated is better.
I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.
With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.
My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.
You can daisy change wireless access points.
The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)
Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB
silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house
via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her
Windoze.
Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane
and probably BS.
We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl.
Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife
has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a
photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner.
That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows
computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have
an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple
computer. i have no idea why.
Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid.

If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a
separate printer to print labels.

Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple
of different labels at a time.

You're right! Let's all go out and buy one so we can hardly use it!


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