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X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 05:25 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/11/12 12:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/11/12 11:37 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote:

That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine
that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB
mouse 80 feet away.
I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine
all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the
pointing device.

Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up
to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea.

That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem.


I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I
suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and
the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still
have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you
are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to
put your documents on the flatbed.

The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from
the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine,
and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard
in her home office.

Sometimes less complicated is better.


What's complicated about not running cables all over a room?


1. Where does it say "running cables all over a room"?

2. A simple USB cable connection is less complicated than a wireless
router to USB hub to USB dongle to USB device.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 05:51 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/11/12 12:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 8/11/12 11:37 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote:

That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine
that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB
mouse 80 feet away.
I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine
all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the
pointing device.

Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up
to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea.

That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem.


I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I
suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and
the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still
have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you
are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to
put your documents on the flatbed.

The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from
the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine,
and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard
in her home office.

Sometimes less complicated is better.


What's complicated about not running cables all over a room?


1. Where does it say "running cables all over a room"?

2. A simple USB cable connection is less complicated than a wireless
router to USB hub to USB dongle to USB device.


Yes, it's terribly complicated.... Don't try it.

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 05:59 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/11/12 12:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:37 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote:

That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine
that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB
mouse 80 feet away.
I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine
all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the
pointing device.

Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up
to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea.

That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem.


I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I
suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and
the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still
have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you
are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to
put your documents on the flatbed.

The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from
the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine,
and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard
in her home office.

Sometimes less complicated is better.


I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.



I've been pleasantly surprised at the range of the signal from my wi-fi
router. Our lower level is 9' of poured concrete floor to ceiling in
most areas and of course the signal travels vertically throughout the
house, but it also travels to the end of the driveway, and that's a
combo of vertical and horizontal and quite a distance from the router as
the bird flies.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 06:00 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/11/12 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:57:49 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:53 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 11:37 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote:

That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine
that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB
mouse 80 feet away.
I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine
all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the
pointing device.

Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up
to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the
whole idea.

That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem.


I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I
suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and
the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still
have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you
are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to
put your documents on the flatbed.

The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from
the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine,
and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard
in her home office.

Sometimes less complicated is better.



BTW, I love how this thread morphed from a discussion about fuel for
home generators to USB devices. It's so very...rec.boats


There are only about a dozen of us here who regularly post and we
usually watch most of the threads.

At least we are not bashing each other in this conversation.


Actually, I don't mind the morphing one bit.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Wayne.B August 11th 12 06:11 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:30:01 -0400, wrote:

Do you have a wireless solution for USB devices. I am still looking
for one.


===

Google up "wireless usb extender". There are a bunch of them
available.


JustWait[_2_] August 11th 12 08:01 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/11/2012 2:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:59:49 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 12:51 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:37 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote:

That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine
that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB
mouse 80 feet away.
I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine
all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the
pointing device.

Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up
to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea.

That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem.


I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I
suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and
the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still
have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you
are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to
put your documents on the flatbed.

The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from
the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine,
and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard
in her home office.

Sometimes less complicated is better.

I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.



I've been pleasantly surprised at the range of the signal from my wi-fi
router. Our lower level is 9' of poured concrete floor to ceiling in
most areas and of course the signal travels vertically throughout the
house, but it also travels to the end of the driveway, and that's a
combo of vertical and horizontal and quite a distance from the router as
the bird flies.


I can swap data with my neighbor through the window but as soon as you
get a concrete block wall or two involved the range drops to virtually
nothing.
It might be that there is so much steel in our walls and that the
whole thing is grounded.


How far do you need to go? Can't you put it at a high point in the
house. Heck, I am on half acre lots and get a strong signal (encrypted)
from no less than two of my neighbors at any given time. Most likely
from two houses both on about 75 yards from our router and the next
likely candidate over a hundred yards from our router... Our router is
in an office, one story ranch.

JustWait[_2_] August 11th 12 08:05 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/11/2012 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:11:26 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:30:01 -0400,
wrote:

Do you have a wireless solution for USB devices. I am still looking
for one.


===

Google up "wireless usb extender". There are a bunch of them
available.



... for $350-400 a pop.

I am not one of you 1%ers ;-)

With 3 CBS walls between my computer and the spot I want the other
end, I am far from convinced the thing would work anyway. WiFi
doesn't.
To make it work I would have to put the transmitter in the attic to
get above the walls, running a wire down to the PC and at that point
why not just throw the wire over to the end of the house and save
$340.

I am old school anyway I like wire.


Yeah, my wife is the same way. I was just going to mention re my last
post, our printer is BT and Wireless capable but the boss has wire from
the router to it and her server too. Only Jess and I run wireless here
and again, the printer is wired.

Wayne.B August 11th 12 08:12 PM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:47:05 -0400, wrote:

Google up "wireless usb extender". There are a bunch of them
available.



... for $350-400 a pop.

I am not one of you 1%ers ;-)


===

I don't recall the words cheap or inexpensive in your requirements
document. :-)


With 3 CBS walls between my computer and the spot I want the other
end, I am far from convinced the thing would work anyway. WiFi
doesn't.
To make it work I would have to put the transmitter in the attic to
get above the walls, running a wire down to the PC and at that point
why not just throw the wire over to the end of the house and save
$340.

I am old school anyway I like wire.


===

Luddite !


BAR[_2_] August 12th 12 12:43 AM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:37 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote:

That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine
that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB
mouse 80 feet away.
I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine
all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the
pointing device.

Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up
to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea.

That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem.


I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I
suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and
the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still
have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you
are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to
put your documents on the flatbed.

The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from
the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine,
and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard
in her home office.

Sometimes less complicated is better.


I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.



You can daisy change wireless access points.

X ` Man[_3_] August 12th 12 01:43 AM

Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
 
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

Sometimes less complicated is better.

I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they
are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.

With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it
would work for me out in the pool bar.

My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end
and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad.
That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house.
Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the
house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls
between them.



You can daisy change wireless access points.


The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5)



Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an
option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness.
I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac,
iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.


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