You don't have to be really...
 

In article , says...

On 7/3/2012 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

...stupid to live in the south, but...it helps.


Federal judge halts Mississippi abortion law


TUPELO, Mississippi (Reuters) - A federal judge on Sunday temporarily
blocked Mississippi from enforcing a new law that requires doctors who
perform abortions at the state's sole abortion clinic to have admitting
privileges at a local hospital.

The state law, challenged last week by the Jackson Women's Health
Organization, has threatened to make Mississippi the only U.S. state
without an abortion clinic. It was set to take effect on Sunday.

U.S. District Court Judge Daniel Jordan entered a temporary restraining
order and set a hearing for July 11 to determine whether it should be
extended.

"In this case, plaintiffs have offered evidence ? including quotes from
significant legislative and executive officers ? that the act's purpose
is to eliminate abortions in Mississippi," Jordan found.

"They likewise submitted evidence that no safety or health concerns
motivated its passage. This evidence has not yet been rebutted."

The law signed by *Republican* Governor Phil Bryant in April requires
all doctors performing abortions at a Mississippi clinic to be certified
in obstetrics and gynecology, as well as to have admitting privileges at
a local hospital.

"The federal judge's decision is disappointing, and Governor Bryant
plans to work with state leaders to ensure this legislation properly
takes effect as soon as possible," spokesman Mick Bullock said.

The clinic challenged the new measure as unconstitutional for aiming to
effectively ban abortions in Mississippi, and also was seeking more time
to comply with the law.

Doctors at the Jackson health clinic already are certified in obstetrics
and gynecology, but have not been able to obtain privileges at any of
the half dozen hospitals within a 30-minute drive from the clinic,
despite trying since early May.

Republican state Representative Sam Mims, who sponsored the measure,
said the law aims to protect women.

POLITICAL STRATEGY?

Clinic owner Dianze Derzis called it a political strategy to ban
abortion in Mississippi without having to challenge Roe V. Wade. "It
isn't about anything but putting that clinic out of business," Derzis
told Reuters.

The lawsuit, which was filed on behalf of the clinic by the New
York-based Center for Reproductive Rights, cited several instances in
which state lawmakers publicly voiced hope the law would make
Mississippi abortion-free.

State health department inspectors had planned to check on the clinic's
compliance with the law Monday, but no inspection will take place, a
department spokeswoman said.

Attorneys for the state health department said in court papers the
clinic had ample time in the appeals process to explore options without
seeking a court injunction.

But clinic attorneys said the clinic and its doctors would be putting
themselves at risk by performing abortions outside the letter of the law
- despite the appeals process.

"Today's decision reaffirms the fundamental constitutional rights of
women in Mississippi and ensures the Jackson Women's Health Organization
can continue providing the critical reproductive health care that they
have offered to women for the last 17 years," said Nancy Northup,
president and chief executive at the Center for Reproductive Rights.

Mims said he was disappointed by the injunction, "but the courts have
spoken, and we'll let the legal process begin."

Mississippi already has some of the country's strictest abortion laws
and one of the lowest abortion rates. It also has the highest teenage
pregnancy rate in the United States - more than 60 percent above the
national average in 2010.

The state became a battleground for reproductive rights last fall when
voters weighed in on a constitutional "personhood" amendment that
defined life as starting at the moment eggs are fertilized. Voters
rejected the proposed amendment.

Thirty-nine other states also require that OB-GYNs perform abortions,
and nine others mandate hospital privileges, according to the Guttmacher
Institute, a nonprofit organization dedicated to sexual and reproductive
rights.

The Jackson Women's Health Organization has been providing services in
Mississippi since 1996. The nearest clinics outside the state are in
Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas and Louisiana.

- - -

All part of the Republican war on women.

That's our bigot Harry for you.


The democrats are waging a war on women, minorities, and Americans...

How so? By giving them a choice?

You don't have to be really...
 

On 7/3/2012 8:53 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/3/2012 8:42 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/3/2012 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/2/2012 3:28 PM, BAR wrote:
In article m,

says...

On 7/2/2012 2:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/2/12 2:43 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/2/2012 1:35 PM, Oscar wrote:

Would you allow a doctor, who doesn't have hospital privileges,
reach
inside your body? Didn't think so.


Abortion is one way the dems control women and of course young
girls.


What a nitwit you are.

Didn't you once say, "It's not an unborn baby, it's just a
fetus". A
rational person would say only a nitwit could say that.

Just think how big the Democrat party would be if they hadn't killed
off
their potential members via a "choice."


Have you ever been to a planned abortionhood clearinghouse? There is no
choice...

Bull****.

You're right. They do get to choose the coathanger.


They don't even talk about any options...

They are in the business of doing abortions. They have an agenda. Rip
baby rip. If a woman has doubts she should seek counseling from her
doctor, clergy, family, medicaid/welfare councilor, etc.

You don't have to be really...
 

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike,
who oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?

You don't have to be really...
 

On 7/3/12 9:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike, who
oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?



A lot of them are.

You don't have to be really...
 

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 08:54:22 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 7/3/2012 7:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

...stupid to live in the south, but...it helps.


Federal judge halts Mississippi abortion law


TUPELO, Mississippi (Reuters) - A federal judge on Sunday temporarily
blocked Mississippi from enforcing a new law that requires doctors who
perform abortions at the state's sole abortion clinic to have admitting
privileges at a local hospital.

The state law, challenged last week by the Jackson Women's Health
Organization, has threatened to make Mississippi the only U.S. state
without an abortion clinic. It was set to take effect on Sunday.

U.S. District Court Judge Daniel Jordan entered a temporary restraining
order and set a hearing for July 11 to determine whether it should be
extended.

"In this case, plaintiffs have offered evidence ? including quotes from
significant legislative and executive officers ? that the act's purpose
is to eliminate abortions in Mississippi," Jordan found.

"They likewise submitted evidence that no safety or health concerns
motivated its passage. This evidence has not yet been rebutted."

The law signed by *Republican* Governor Phil Bryant in April requires
all doctors performing abortions at a Mississippi clinic to be certified
in obstetrics and gynecology, as well as to have admitting privileges at
a local hospital.

"The federal judge's decision is disappointing, and Governor Bryant
plans to work with state leaders to ensure this legislation properly
takes effect as soon as possible," spokesman Mick Bullock said.

The clinic challenged the new measure as unconstitutional for aiming to
effectively ban abortions in Mississippi, and also was seeking more time
to comply with the law.

Doctors at the Jackson health clinic already are certified in obstetrics
and gynecology, but have not been able to obtain privileges at any of
the half dozen hospitals within a 30-minute drive from the clinic,
despite trying since early May.

Republican state Representative Sam Mims, who sponsored the measure,
said the law aims to protect women.

POLITICAL STRATEGY?

Clinic owner Dianze Derzis called it a political strategy to ban
abortion in Mississippi without having to challenge Roe V. Wade. "It
isn't about anything but putting that clinic out of business," Derzis
told Reuters.

The lawsuit, which was filed on behalf of the clinic by the New
York-based Center for Reproductive Rights, cited several instances in
which state lawmakers publicly voiced hope the law would make
Mississippi abortion-free.

State health department inspectors had planned to check on the clinic's
compliance with the law Monday, but no inspection will take place, a
department spokeswoman said.

Attorneys for the state health department said in court papers the
clinic had ample time in the appeals process to explore options without
seeking a court injunction.

But clinic attorneys said the clinic and its doctors would be putting
themselves at risk by performing abortions outside the letter of the law
- despite the appeals process.

"Today's decision reaffirms the fundamental constitutional rights of
women in Mississippi and ensures the Jackson Women's Health Organization
can continue providing the critical reproductive health care that they
have offered to women for the last 17 years," said Nancy Northup,
president and chief executive at the Center for Reproductive Rights.

Mims said he was disappointed by the injunction, "but the courts have
spoken, and we'll let the legal process begin."

Mississippi already has some of the country's strictest abortion laws
and one of the lowest abortion rates. It also has the highest teenage
pregnancy rate in the United States - more than 60 percent above the
national average in 2010.

The state became a battleground for reproductive rights last fall when
voters weighed in on a constitutional "personhood" amendment that
defined life as starting at the moment eggs are fertilized. Voters
rejected the proposed amendment.

Thirty-nine other states also require that OB-GYNs perform abortions,
and nine others mandate hospital privileges, according to the Guttmacher
Institute, a nonprofit organization dedicated to sexual and reproductive
rights.

The Jackson Women's Health Organization has been providing services in
Mississippi since 1996. The nearest clinics outside the state are in
Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas and Louisiana.

- - -

All part of the Republican war on women.

That's our bigot Harry for you.


The democrats are waging a war on women, minorities, and Americans...

Saying something doesn't make it true. But I don't think you're smart
enough to realize you're lying.

You don't have to be really...
 

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 21:47:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike,
who oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?

You make no distinction between those who oppose but think it's still
a woman's choice and those who oppose and who'd make it illegal.

The latter is a much smaller percentage than the former.

You don't have to be really...
 

On 7/4/2012 1:39 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 21:47:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike,
who oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?

You make no distinction between those who oppose but think it's still
a woman's choice and those who oppose and who'd make it illegal.

The latter is a much smaller percentage than the former.

I'll get to work righaway and see if I can verify your claim. Don't wait up.

You don't have to be really...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 21:47:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike,
who oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?

You make no distinction between those who oppose but think it's still
a woman's choice and those who oppose and who'd make it illegal.

-----------------------------------------------

Exactly my point. Neither did Harry.

Eisboch

You don't have to be really...
 

On 7/5/12 7:02 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message ...

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 21:47:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike,
who oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?

You make no distinction between those who oppose but think it's still
a woman's choice and those who oppose and who'd make it illegal.

-----------------------------------------------

Exactly my point. Neither did Harry.

Eisboch

The "right to life" movement is fatally contaminated by the huge numbers
of proponents who don't give a rat's ass about children born into
horrific poverty, or about the hypocrisy of supporting fetuses and
capital punishment, or the hypocrisy about starting wars of convenience
that end up killing thousands, hundreds of thousands or even millions.

I have no objection to honest people who oppose abortion on "moral
grounds," but who do not try to restrict the availability of abortion to
those who want one.

If you don't want an abortion, don't get one.

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women.

You don't have to be really...
 

On 7/5/2012 7:14 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/5/12 7:02 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 21:47:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

The Republican objection to abortion is not based upon morality but,
rather, on attempts to control women and their bodies.

--------------------------------------------------

How about the millions of women ... Republicans and Democrats alike,
who oppose
abortion? Are they attempting to control women and their bodies?

You make no distinction between those who oppose but think it's still
a woman's choice and those who oppose and who'd make it illegal.

-----------------------------------------------

Exactly my point. Neither did Harry.

Eisboch

The "right to life" movement is fatally contaminated by the huge numbers
of proponents who don't give a rat's ass about children born into
horrific poverty, or about the hypocrisy of supporting fetuses and
capital punishment, or the hypocrisy about starting wars of convenience
that end up killing thousands, hundreds of thousands or even millions.

I have no objection to honest people who oppose abortion on "moral
grounds," but who do not try to restrict the availability of abortion to
those who want one.

If you don't want an abortion, don't get one.

In the end, I believe the majority of those who oppose abortion are
trying to control women

Well that's the way your mind works. It might be what you BELIEVE but
it's not necessarily a fact. So please don't try to pass off what gets
manipulated in your mind as fact.

You insult your readers by underestimating their intelligence.