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iBoaterer[_2_] June 19th 12 01:28 PM

21 million...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:00:29 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/18/12 5:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:31:37 -0400,
wrote:

The world is full of learning opportunities if you are willing to
read, watch and ask questions.

===

Absolutely true. There's nothing like a curious mind and the
motivation to follow up. I'm always amazed at the amount of
collective knowledge that exists on the internet these days. I taught
myself HTML and Javascript back in the 90s just from internet based
education of various sorts - partly as a hobby, and partly because I
knew it would eventually come in handy with my day job.


I started learning the programming necessary to develop a decent website
about a year ago, and I thought the learning curve was really steep at
the beginning. I do ok now, though I'm certainly no "whiz," and I
recently produced a nice new webpage for one of my NGO clients.
It's a geopolitical site, and we're getting about 200 hits a day, which
isn't bad, considering we're not doing much to promote it.


If I was actually building a commercial web site I would use a program
like Front Page or maybe something more powerful.
I just use my web page as an FTP site so I don't need that much
software. You can make something functional with word.


Most normal people would use Front Page or similar!

iBoaterer[_2_] June 19th 12 01:29 PM

21 million...
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 6/18/12 3:34 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:30:58 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On the other hand, I know plenty of liberal arts grads who are pulling
down six figure incomes at jobs with pretty decent benefits, and who
weren't trained by the navy.


Doing what?



Do you even know what "the liberal arts" are?

In modern colleges and universities, liberal arts include literature,
languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, the physical and biological
sciences, and the social sciences.

I'm a liberal arts grad. I started earning an annual income in the six
figures in the 1970's, and I still am earning at that level from work I
do, even though I have cut back some.

I have friends who are professors at several local universities who are
earning six figure salaries, and they are all liberal arts grads.

Most of my advertising, PR and marketing colleagues earn substantial six
figure salaries and bonuses.

There are many scientists at the NIH and other health and science
related agencies that earn in the six figures.

We know at least a dozen psychotherapists who earn more than $100,000 a
year.

The highest salaried guy I know as a close friend, a recent retiree,
earned more than $500,000 a year at his job. He's a lit and history grad
of the University of Notre Dame.

I know dozens and dozens of liberal arts grads earning well over
$100,000 a year. As far as I know, none were trained by the Navy.


"Self praise sucks" Harry Krause 2012.

X ` Man June 19th 12 02:16 PM

21 million...
 
On 6/19/12 8:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...


Angry? With the worthless buttbuddy of JustaSnake?

I suppose you really have no idea of how the car, boat, et cetera,
industry works at the retail level. I don't recall the exact numbers,
since the boat store sale was close to four decades ago, but like most
boat dealers, my dad floorplanned his boat and motor inventory. He
certainly didn't have $3 million of his own money tied up in that stuff
for many reasons, the most likely being he didn't have $3 million in
cash assets.

Ask some responsible adult you might know how floor planning works.

Crikey, the "intellectual" level in here, as presented by you and most
of your buddies, is just appalling.


You DID have a good idea, though, when you said that someone had
researched the NYFD to see if your father did get a fireboat welcome! I
think I will!



No need to do that...just ask your wife, the one you claimed was an
"excellent" researcher, even though it was obvious she couldn't find a
7-11 in a phone book. Oh, wait...even though you claim you aren't Loogy
and what you write and what passes for your thoughts are the same as
Loogy's, and you claim you don't live in Georgia, like Loogy, and you
claim you don't have a wife and daughter, and you're not JustSnotty's
ying-yang butt brother, you aren't capable of doing real research, either.

Go play with the other numnutz boys here, little boy.


iBoaterer[_2_] June 19th 12 04:07 PM

21 million...
 
In article ,
says...

On 6/19/12 8:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

Angry? With the worthless buttbuddy of JustaSnake?

I suppose you really have no idea of how the car, boat, et cetera,
industry works at the retail level. I don't recall the exact numbers,
since the boat store sale was close to four decades ago, but like most
boat dealers, my dad floorplanned his boat and motor inventory. He
certainly didn't have $3 million of his own money tied up in that stuff
for many reasons, the most likely being he didn't have $3 million in
cash assets.

Ask some responsible adult you might know how floor planning works.

Crikey, the "intellectual" level in here, as presented by you and most
of your buddies, is just appalling.


You DID have a good idea, though, when you said that someone had
researched the NYFD to see if your father did get a fireboat welcome! I
think I will!



No need to do that...just ask your wife, the one you claimed was an
"excellent" researcher, even though it was obvious she couldn't find a
7-11 in a phone book. Oh, wait...even though you claim you aren't Loogy
and what you write and what passes for your thoughts are the same as
Loogy's, and you claim you don't live in Georgia, like Loogy, and you
claim you don't have a wife and daughter, and you're not JustSnotty's
ying-yang butt brother, you aren't capable of doing real research, either.

Go play with the other numnutz boys here, little boy.


Well, gee, while NOTHING you've written above is true about me, I do
have two friends in the NYFD. I'll make a phone call today, thanks! As
for the "other numnutz boys", you're the king of them. The "other" is
your buddy Don!

X ` Man[_3_] June 19th 12 04:13 PM

21 million...
 
On 6/19/12 11:07 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/19/12 8:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

Angry? With the worthless buttbuddy of JustaSnake?

I suppose you really have no idea of how the car, boat, et cetera,
industry works at the retail level. I don't recall the exact numbers,
since the boat store sale was close to four decades ago, but like most
boat dealers, my dad floorplanned his boat and motor inventory. He
certainly didn't have $3 million of his own money tied up in that stuff
for many reasons, the most likely being he didn't have $3 million in
cash assets.

Ask some responsible adult you might know how floor planning works.

Crikey, the "intellectual" level in here, as presented by you and most
of your buddies, is just appalling.

You DID have a good idea, though, when you said that someone had
researched the NYFD to see if your father did get a fireboat welcome! I
think I will!



No need to do that...just ask your wife, the one you claimed was an
"excellent" researcher, even though it was obvious she couldn't find a
7-11 in a phone book. Oh, wait...even though you claim you aren't Loogy
and what you write and what passes for your thoughts are the same as
Loogy's, and you claim you don't live in Georgia, like Loogy, and you
claim you don't have a wife and daughter, and you're not JustSnotty's
ying-yang butt brother, you aren't capable of doing real research, either.

Go play with the other numnutz boys here, little boy.


Well, gee, while NOTHING you've written above is true about me, I do
have two friends in the NYFD. I'll make a phone call today, thanks! As
for the "other numnutz boys", you're the king of them. The "other" is
your buddy Don!



Yes, I'm *sure* your "two friends in the NYFD" are going to be able to
find detailed records of every non-important event involving NYC
fireboats that occurred half a century ago. D'oh. Better ask Loogy's
genius wife, eh?


Oscar June 19th 12 04:16 PM

21 million...
 
On 6/19/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleweGdnREFYLfQG0LSnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 6/18/12 3:34 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:30:58 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On the other hand, I know plenty of liberal arts grads who are pulling
down six figure incomes at jobs with pretty decent benefits, and who
weren't trained by the navy.

Doing what?



Do you even know what "the liberal arts" are?

In modern colleges and universities, liberal arts include literature,
languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, the physical and biological
sciences, and the social sciences.

I'm a liberal arts grad. I started earning an annual income in the six
figures in the 1970's, and I still am earning at that level from work I
do, even though I have cut back some.

I have friends who are professors at several local universities who are
earning six figure salaries, and they are all liberal arts grads.

Most of my advertising, PR and marketing colleagues earn substantial six
figure salaries and bonuses.

There are many scientists at the NIH and other health and science
related agencies that earn in the six figures.

We know at least a dozen psychotherapists who earn more than $100,000 a
year.

The highest salaried guy I know as a close friend, a recent retiree,
earned more than $500,000 a year at his job. He's a lit and history grad
of the University of Notre Dame.

I know dozens and dozens of liberal arts grads earning well over
$100,000 a year. As far as I know, none were trained by the Navy.


"Self praise sucks" Harry Krause 2012.


Don't it though?

[email protected] June 19th 12 04:17 PM

21 million...
 
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:45:24 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Knowing what everyone else makes is a union/government thing. Most
corporations have a confidentiality policy on salaries but they are
also merit based companies not simply time in grade,.


Your view is noted and rejected. Sounds like a culture issue.
I spent decades in salaried/bonused private enterprise.
As I said, I always knew ballpark what others were earning.
If you're competent and competitive, you wouldn't want it otherwise.
People talk. You can choose to not inquire, and keep your ears closed.
Best to know the market price of your abilities/products.
"Quiet rooms" never was my style.
Runs counter to keeping others' hands off my wallet.


I call BS. While I agree that it is a cultural thing to not discuss this among friends and relatives locally, I know it is officially discouraged at the company I work for. Just for fun I polled some friends who work at large companies in big cities... without an exception, they say that they are officially not allowed to discuss salary or bonus structure with peers, and doing so can, and has, led to dismissal. The only people they are allowed to discuss this with is their direct leader and HR. They know their direct report's salaries, of course, as they are involved with reviewing them and adjusting their compensation.


X ` Man[_3_] June 19th 12 04:21 PM

21 million...
 
On 6/19/12 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:45:24 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Knowing what everyone else makes is a union/government thing. Most
corporations have a confidentiality policy on salaries but they are
also merit based companies not simply time in grade,.


Your view is noted and rejected. Sounds like a culture issue.
I spent decades in salaried/bonused private enterprise.
As I said, I always knew ballpark what others were earning.
If you're competent and competitive, you wouldn't want it otherwise.
People talk. You can choose to not inquire, and keep your ears closed.
Best to know the market price of your abilities/products.
"Quiet rooms" never was my style.
Runs counter to keeping others' hands off my wallet.


I call BS. While I agree that it is a cultural thing to not discuss this among friends and relatives locally, I know it is officially discouraged at the company I work for. Just for fun I polled some friends who work at large companies in big cities... without an exception, they say that they are officially not allowed to discuss salary or bonus structure with peers, and doing so can, and has, led to dismissal. The only people they are allowed to discuss this with is their direct leader and HR. They know their direct report's salaries, of course, as they are involved with reviewing them and adjusting their compensation.



Crikey, are you a naive asshole or what?




Oscar June 19th 12 04:23 PM

21 million...
 
On 6/19/2012 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:45:24 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
In ,
says...


Knowing what everyone else makes is a union/government thing. Most
corporations have a confidentiality policy on salaries but they are
also merit based companies not simply time in grade,.


Your view is noted and rejected. Sounds like a culture issue.
I spent decades in salaried/bonused private enterprise.
As I said, I always knew ballpark what others were earning.
If you're competent and competitive, you wouldn't want it otherwise.
People talk. You can choose to not inquire, and keep your ears closed.
Best to know the market price of your abilities/products.
"Quiet rooms" never was my style.
Runs counter to keeping others' hands off my wallet.


I call BS. While I agree that it is a cultural thing to not discuss this among friends and relatives locally, I know it is officially discouraged at the company I work for. Just for fun I polled some friends who work at large companies in big cities... without an exception, they say that they are officially not allowed to discuss salary or bonus structure with peers, and doing so can, and has, led to dismissal. The only people they are allowed to discuss this with is their direct leader and HR. They know their direct report's salaries, of course, as they are involved with reviewing them and adjusting their compensation.

When you get to the level Harry's sweetheart is, they publish her salary
on the internet. Talk about invasion of privacy.

iBoaterer[_2_] June 19th 12 04:26 PM

21 million...
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 6/19/12 11:07 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 6/19/12 8:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
says...

Angry? With the worthless buttbuddy of JustaSnake?

I suppose you really have no idea of how the car, boat, et cetera,
industry works at the retail level. I don't recall the exact numbers,
since the boat store sale was close to four decades ago, but like most
boat dealers, my dad floorplanned his boat and motor inventory. He
certainly didn't have $3 million of his own money tied up in that stuff
for many reasons, the most likely being he didn't have $3 million in
cash assets.

Ask some responsible adult you might know how floor planning works.

Crikey, the "intellectual" level in here, as presented by you and most
of your buddies, is just appalling.

You DID have a good idea, though, when you said that someone had
researched the NYFD to see if your father did get a fireboat welcome! I
think I will!



No need to do that...just ask your wife, the one you claimed was an
"excellent" researcher, even though it was obvious she couldn't find a
7-11 in a phone book. Oh, wait...even though you claim you aren't Loogy
and what you write and what passes for your thoughts are the same as
Loogy's, and you claim you don't live in Georgia, like Loogy, and you
claim you don't have a wife and daughter, and you're not JustSnotty's
ying-yang butt brother, you aren't capable of doing real research, either.

Go play with the other numnutz boys here, little boy.


Well, gee, while NOTHING you've written above is true about me, I do
have two friends in the NYFD. I'll make a phone call today, thanks! As
for the "other numnutz boys", you're the king of them. The "other" is
your buddy Don!



Yes, I'm *sure* your "two friends in the NYFD" are going to be able to
find detailed records of every non-important event involving NYC
fireboats that occurred half a century ago. D'oh. Better ask Loogy's
genius wife, eh?


Well, I've already contacted the historian. Very gracious lady, and said
that they keep thorough logs and always have so that it should be quite
easy.


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