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On 4/16/12 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:14:46 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote: In , He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please, you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that "the actions of Martin" led to his death. If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to explain who he was and why he was there. Why should he? He probably thought he was being attacked by a man in the dark of night. I guess you are right, a thug does not have any reason to be civil to anyone. After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and Martin was a stranger. The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked "what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.) Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose. If some strange man came up behind me at night when I'm doing nothing wrong and started acting strangely, he'd get the same thing. The only story we have is that Martin approached Zimmerman. Unless there is a witness we have not seen yet, that will be the only story we have. Everything else is speculation. I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. And the stranger has no right to just walk away? Not really ... in Florida. On your property, you can pretty much shoot them and that is particularly true if they punch you in the nose and knock you down Harry would shoot you for that and he lives in a "retreat state" No, not unless the criminal had broken into the house. I don't walk around the yard "heeled." |
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On 4/16/12 2:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:04:26 -0400, X ` wrote: On 4/14/12 8:36 PM, wrote: You have to take words at what they are, not what they might be. If they tell you that you don't "need" to eat all your peas, it doesn't mean you can't. That really sounds more like a liability issue for the police. If they imply that he should follow someone and they get hurt, the police would be liable. I have been to a number of NW meetings with the cops and they tell us it sure would be helpful if we can watch the person until they get there but be careful. In fact that is really the only way they actually catch anyone. If they see the guy a block away, he can say "it wasn't me". Theoretically they need "reasonable suspicion" even to do a "Terry stop". Gee, and I thought SW Florida was where all the "fancy" people lived. If I were you, I'd find a new neighborhood where the crime rate is lower and "neighborhood watch" is not such a big deal. "Crime" here is mostly kids drinking and smoking dope in the park with the occasional band of "car hoppers". They are always white kids and usually from the neighborhood. That still does not keep most of the people here from being scared ****less. I don't mind going out there to see what is going on myself and I talk to everyone I see. (unarmed) I suppose I will be killed someday but what the ****, it beats dying wheezing in a hospital from "old age" ;-) I am pretty good at defusing problems before they escalate and that is why I have said several times, if there was just an ounce of civility in that encounter from either one of them, Trayvon would still be alive and George would still be working at the insurance company. Perhaps neigborhood watchers who are as deep into vigilanteism as Zimmerman need to have psychological tests before their assume their duties of not walking around the 'hood armed and eager to be provoked. |
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says... On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited. Martin was indeed invited there. |
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says... On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Oh...don't forget...Martin was visiting his father, who lived in the community. So, please explain as someone invited in by someone who lives there how Martin was trespassing? Was there a rent-a-cop in a little kiosk at the entrance to the community? Our house is on a little private lane. There are five houses along our road. We do "allow in" firetrucks, police cars, UPS & FEDEX delivery trucks, tradesmen, visitors, et cetera. Maybe we should put up a gate and a sign to keep crazed, armed Floridians out, eh? Here's a good read about gated communities and how the people act: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/op...ted-community- mentality.html |
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says... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/op...ted-community- mentality.html Though I don't want to live in a gated community myself, or ever belong to a HOA, this is a shallow article, not worth reading. I'd like to know how many of these people living in these places simply moved there because of location or pricing. You know, as in location, location, location. And "Can I afford it?" I'm sure there are many "wrong-thinking" folks in these places, but it's not smart to paint with a broad brush. Once a developer establishes a gated-community, isn't the die cast? Can the HOA members vote to change it to non-gated? Also, I've heard these places have virtually the same crime rates as non-gated. So it just doesn't make any sense to me. |
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On 4/16/12 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:18:58 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. That is why he called the police as soon as he saw Martin. That is not the action of a guy who wants to simply track a guy down and shoot them as Corey has alleged. Yeah, right. Sure. |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:59:39 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:14:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , The only story we have is that Martin approached Zimmerman. Unless there is a witness we have not seen yet, that will be the only story we have. Everything else is speculation. Not true at all. Zimmerman STATED that he "followed Martin". He also said he had lost sight of Martin I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. And the stranger has no right to just walk away? Not really ... in Florida. On your property, you can pretty much shoot them and that is particularly true if they punch you in the nose and knock you down Harry would shoot you for that and he lives in a "retreat state" So if a man like Zimmerman approaches me at night in Florida while I'm walking home I can't under law walk away? You can certainly walk away but you can't punch them in the nose for asking "what are you doing here" on private property. And there you have it... it's not against the law to ask someone a question. It IS against the law to commit assault & battery. "Going to my Dad's house." was the proper response. A little less attitude would have saved his life. |
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On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/14/12 8:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote: In , He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please, you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that "the actions of Martin" led to his death. If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to explain who he was and why he was there. After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and Martin was a stranger. The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked "what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.) Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose. I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on walking to the house where a blood relative lived. If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman. Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts. If the property is that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed. They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just like you would for your private property that you have said you would kill over. Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch.. |
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On 4/16/2012 2:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted He was on a public sidewalk and staying there with relatives. He was on private property, and approached by neighborhood watch, which was also clearly posted... Stop lying, really, you should at least read one complete article about the actual facts.. Just one would save everyone a lot of headache. |
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On 4/16/2012 3:18 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Martin was on private property clearly marked as monitored. Anybody with a brain in that situation would assume he did... |
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On 4/16/2012 3:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleCOKdnTZPKps_7RHSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited. Martin was indeed invited there. "Well then"??? How about saying, "sorry I lied about him not being private property, I will go read the police report before making an ass of myself again here"...???????? |
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On 4/14/2012 10:16 PM, X ` Man wrote:
If I lived in that area, I'd do a little community organizing and lead packs of cars and pedestrians through that gated community 24-7 for a few weeks. You would go to jail for trespassing. Good. That would be the point. Thousands of protesters jailed. A never-ending demonstration. Just like the good old days. Dork... snerk |
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If I lived in that area, I'd do a little community organizing and lead packs of cars and pedestrians through that gated community 24-7 for a few weeks. You would go to jail for trespassing. Good. That would be the point. Thousands of protesters jailed. A never-ending demonstration. Just like the good old days. Come on down, join the rabble Typical Krause, no respect for your private property. However, if you step foot on his private property be ready to answer a gun shot. Harry lives to be a ****ing asshole... He has it down pat... |
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says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:18:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: You can certainly walk away but you can't punch them in the nose for asking "what are you doing here" on private property. And there you have it... it's not against the law to ask someone a question. It IS against the law to commit assault & battery. "Going to my Dad's house." was the proper response. A little less attitude would have saved his life. Sad but true. Unfortunately we have raised a couple generations of kids who are all about "attitude", particularly in the black community. If Zimmerman had been a North Miami thug like Martin wanted to be, there would have been more respect shown. Bull****. So, in the dark of night, a stranger comes up to you or someone who is able to defend themselves, doesn't identify himself, so you don't know what he intends, you are just going to offer him up any information he wants? |
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says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:57:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 23:10:59 -0700, thumper wrote: On 4/14/2012 5:36 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:42:11 -0700, wrote: I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. You have to take words at what they are, not what they might be. If they tell you that you don't "need" to eat all your peas, it doesn't mean you can't. Willful ignorance. The point was crystal clear. Yes it was crystal clear that the government was not going to protect Zimmerman's safety when Martin attacked him How do you know Martin attacked Zimmerman? Oh, forgot, you blindly choose to believe Zimmerman. There is nobody else who knows what actually happened. Until I actually hear another credible witness who actually saw what happened, I am left with Zimmerman's story. The first eye witness so far did not even look until the guy with the white shirt had the guy in the red shirt on the ground. The woman who said the guy in red was on top did not look until after the gun shot. How about the girlfriend? How about the lady who heard the ruckus and claims it was all about Zimmerman? Oh, they don't count, because like you said earlier, those blacks have an attitude. |
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On 4/17/12 9:02 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:00:08 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article25970260.417.1334621734133.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynee1, says... On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:18:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:59:39 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:14:46 -0400, wrote: In , The only story we have is that Martin approached Zimmerman. Unless there is a witness we have not seen yet, that will be the only story we have. Everything else is speculation. Not true at all. Zimmerman STATED that he "followed Martin". He also said he had lost sight of Martin I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. And the stranger has no right to just walk away? Not really ... in Florida. On your property, you can pretty much shoot them and that is particularly true if they punch you in the nose and knock you down Harry would shoot you for that and he lives in a "retreat state" So if a man like Zimmerman approaches me at night in Florida while I'm walking home I can't under law walk away? You can certainly walk away but you can't punch them in the nose for asking "what are you doing here" on private property. And there you have it... it's not against the law to ask someone a question. It IS against the law to commit assault& battery. "Going to my Dad's house." was the proper response. A little less attitude would have saved his life. Oh, so a person in Florida is automatically supposed to just do nothing when someone attempts to assault him? Then just what IS this stand your ground law for? Write 100 times: "Asking a question is not assault." Not answering a question is not asking to be assaulted. |
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In article , says...
On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/14/12 8:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote: In , He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please, you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that "the actions of Martin" led to his death. If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to explain who he was and why he was there. After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and Martin was a stranger. The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked "what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.) Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose. I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on walking to the house where a blood relative lived. If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman. Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts. If the property is that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed. They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just like you would for your private property that you have said you would kill over. Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch.. I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF. |
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In article , says...
On 4/16/2012 2:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted He was on a public sidewalk and staying there with relatives. He was on private property, and approached by neighborhood watch, which was also clearly posted... Stop lying, really, you should at least read one complete article about the actual facts.. Just one would save everyone a lot of headache. How in **** could he be trespassing if he was INVITED there, dip****? Those damned facts just don't go well with your FOX bull****. What "facts" are there? Okay, Martin was NOT trespassing. Martin was NOT breaking any laws. Zimmerman approached him for no reason. Zimmerman killed him. |
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On 4/17/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/14/12 8:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote: In , He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please, you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that "the actions of Martin" led to his death. If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to explain who he was and why he was there. After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and Martin was a stranger. The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked "what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.) Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose. I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on walking to the house where a blood relative lived. If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman. Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts. If the property is that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed. They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just like you would for your private property that you have said you would kill over. Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch.. I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain... |
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On 4/17/12 9:13 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/14/12 8:08 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote: In , He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please, you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that "the actions of Martin" led to his death. If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to explain who he was and why he was there. After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and Martin was a stranger. The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked "what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.) Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose. I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is not really true. If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they will not have strangers walking around. Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking across your patio. I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on walking to the house where a blood relative lived. If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman. Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts. If the property is that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed. They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just like you would for your private property that you have said you would kill over. Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch.. I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF. Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain... You probably should stay out of that crummy neighborhood. |
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In article , says...
On 4/16/2012 3:18 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Martin was on private property clearly marked as monitored. Anybody with a brain in that situation would assume he did... Why would anyone assume he did? Zimmerman could have been nothing more than a thug wanting to rob Martin. If someone walks up to you in the middle of the night, no one else around, and starts asking ****, you are going to "assume" that he has authority and isn't just trying to rob you or something worse? THAT is stupid. |
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On 4/16/2012 3:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleCOKdnTZPKps_7RHSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited. Martin was indeed invited there. "Well then"??? How about saying, "sorry I lied about him not being private property, I will go read the police report before making an ass of myself again here"...???????? You are ****ing insane! What you have just typed has NOTHING to do with the way trespassing laws work. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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On 4/16/2012 2:32 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:50:07 -0400, wrote: You would go to jail for trespassing. Nope, they are public streets. Not inside a gated community. As soon as you put up a gate, you own the street. In this case they were NEVER government owned streets. The developer built the street, the HOA owns the street and is responsible for maintenance. The cops come in as visitors unless they are in hot pursuit, the same as it would be on your patio., In our county they actually have a different bunch of deputies to handle gated communities (a great gig by the way) We went through this when some people here wanted our HOA to put up gates. We would have been required to get the county to vacate the roads and cede them over to us. then we would get no more county maintenance. That was the show stopper. Most gated communities are built from scratch and they never give the roads to the county. (the county will not take them, even if you want, when they are behind gates) I am amazed at how little you people know about HOAs and gated communities, yet you seem to have plenty of opinions. This guy just refuses to look at any info before he makes up his next troll... Amazing, he hasn't changed a bit. I lived in a HOA in the eighties.. Just couldn't live that way, but it was good as it convinced us to buy a house:) Psssst, I'm on my HOA's board....... |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/17/2012 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/16/2012 3:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleCOKdnTZPKps_7RHSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 4/16/12 2:23 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote: Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a loaded firearm." Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put out on CNN All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking on the sidewalk. They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution. Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited. Martin was indeed invited there. "Well then"??? How about saying, "sorry I lied about him not being private property, I will go read the police report before making an ass of myself again here"...???????? You are ****ing insane! What you have just typed has NOTHING to do with the way trespassing laws work. once you get hysterical, I stop reading.... snerk |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/17/2012 9:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 4/16/2012 2:32 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:50:07 -0400, wrote: You would go to jail for trespassing. Nope, they are public streets. Not inside a gated community. As soon as you put up a gate, you own the street. In this case they were NEVER government owned streets. The developer built the street, the HOA owns the street and is responsible for maintenance. The cops come in as visitors unless they are in hot pursuit, the same as it would be on your patio., In our county they actually have a different bunch of deputies to handle gated communities (a great gig by the way) We went through this when some people here wanted our HOA to put up gates. We would have been required to get the county to vacate the roads and cede them over to us. then we would get no more county maintenance. That was the show stopper. Most gated communities are built from scratch and they never give the roads to the county. (the county will not take them, even if you want, when they are behind gates) I am amazed at how little you people know about HOAs and gated communities, yet you seem to have plenty of opinions. This guy just refuses to look at any info before he makes up his next troll... Amazing, he hasn't changed a bit. I lived in a HOA in the eighties.. Just couldn't live that way, but it was good as it convinced us to buy a house:) Psssst, I'm on my HOA's board....... Yeah, I could have guessed that... |
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