Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/12/12 9:24 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:20:38 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:02:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.


Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.

Wow, I'd hate to live in your paranoid world, needing a CWP.


Actually, I did it as a challenge. I like challenges.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/12/12 9:28 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 9:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:02:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That
doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.


Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.

Well of course it was harry. You were a secret agent, remember? LOL!!!
And of course, we believe you, we really do... snerk


Not to worry, little toad. When you break into someone's house, as I am
sure you will someday, the occupants won't need a carry permit to take
care of you.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/12/2012 11:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:20:38 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:

Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.


What was your answer to;

6. Has, based on the results of investigation, “good and substantial
reason� to carry a handgun, including a finding that the permit is
“necessary as a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger.� [5]

What the heck is apprehended danger?

I wonder why he wasn't caught lying on his permit application.

--
http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/12/12 11:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:20:38 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:

Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.


What was your answer to;

6. Has, based on the results of investigation, “good and substantial
reason� to carry a handgun, including a finding that the permit is
“necessary as a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger.� [5]


Why, "rec.boats," of course. :)

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Friday, April 13, 2012 6:13:08 AM UTC-4, Oscar wrote:
On 4/12/2012 11:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:20:38 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:

Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.


What was your answer to;

6. Has, based on the results of investigation, “good and substantial
reason” to carry a handgun, including a finding that the permit is
“necessary as a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger.” [5]

What the heck is apprehended danger?

I wonder why he wasn't caught lying on his permit application.

He's sure been caught lying everywhere else.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:55:45 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:20:38 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:

Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.


What was your answer to;

6. Has, based on the results of investigation, “good and substantial
reason” to carry a handgun, including a finding that the permit is
“necessary as a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger.” [5]

There we have it... another harry lie debunked.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:


Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to
"defend" them.


I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

Carl Rowen was a good liberal who only shot at teenagers who had jumped
the fence so they could use his pool. It didn't matter than Carl Rowen
had an illegal handgun and illegally discharged it within city limits.
Carl Rowen was a good liberal so it was swept under the rug.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, Oscar wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 7:42 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.




Hehehe. Morons. I have a collector's permit and a carry permit. ESAD.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Apr 13, 8:48*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 4/13/12 7:42 AM, BAR wrote:





In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, *wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
*wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.

Hehehe. Morons. I have a collector's permit and a carry permit. ESAD.

Those Southern boys sure are nervous about your gun permits.
Maybe if they acted in a responsible, decent, adult manner, they'd
have nothing to worry about. ;-)

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.

So you automatically believe everything Zimmerman says, regardless of
the audio of the phone call he was on to his girlfriend? Figures.

We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

Was he charged with anything? Is this just hearsay? The "burglary tool"
in question was a screwdriver. It's a rough neighborhood where he went
to school, it could have been to defend himself. Funny thing, his
parents never heard about the alleged jewelry and "burglary tool"
screwdriver, just the graffiti.

If this case gets to the point where they can rebut some statement
about what an angel Martin was I bet a lot more will come out about
his past. The defense certainly will have the chance to show any other
violence in Martin's past to reinforce the idea that he attacked
Zimmerman.

No marks on him, nothing.

I also don't buy this "child" thing.
After all Martin was less than a year away from being able to "join
the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages" (as Arlo would say)

And this has what to do with the case? Age has no meaning here.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article , says...

On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh,
right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells
you to.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 8:18 AM, North Star wrote:
On Apr 13, 8:48 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 4/13/12 7:42 AM, BAR wrote:





In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.

Hehehe. Morons. I have a collector's permit and a carry permit. ESAD.

Those Southern boys sure are nervous about your gun permits.
Maybe if they acted in a responsible, decent, adult manner, they'd
have nothing to worry about. ;-)


I don't think there's more than a half-dozen morons here, mostly
righties, who would behave like the shooter Zimmerman if given half a
chance. Bertie's just ****ed because he can't get a Maryland permit,
even though he "served" stateside as one of those marine boys. He's the
one who claimed I didn't have a collector's permit, either.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/12/12 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:01:27 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

Especially when they are looking for I-pods,cell phones and cash


You're basing this on what, the word of a murderer?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X `
wrote:


Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to
"defend" them.


I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last
night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and
they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as
well.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money,
where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial,
just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those
trials also cost money.


Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a
case. This is politics, pure and simple.
You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not
what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California.
All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily
harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the
legality of how he got into the situation.

I really think the SP plans to lose this case, just for ammunition to
attack the law.

Maybe they should just propose SYG as a constitutional amendment and
let the voters decide.
They did it with pregnant pigs and gill nets so it would not be the
dumbest thing that was proposed tor amendment status.



It seems pretty clear that Zimmerman was following Martin as the latter
walked to the house in the subdivision where his dad was staying, and
that Zimmerman confronted Martin, and that Zimmerman apparently went
back to his car where his gun was stashed, and that Zimmerman was told
by the police dispatcher to remain in his car and that he didn't. I'm
not that familiar with florida's insane stand your ground statute, but
it seems to me that Zimmerman instigated a confrontation. From the
beginning, Martin was under no obligation to respond to Zimmerman's
apparent interrogation. If I were walking through a neighborhood and
some moron adult starting questioning me, I'd think the guy was a nut
case and I'd start walking faster, figuring the guy was trying to start
a fight or worse.

That stand your ground bull**** law needs to be modified.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article 26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street..

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?


I think he is citing what you are implying, dumfoch.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 4/12/12 9:24 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:20:38 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:02:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.


Actually, it was a modest effort.


The process in Maryland is far from "modest". I know lots of people
who tried and failed


In my opinion, the effort I exerted to obtain said permit was modest.

Wow, I'd hate to live in your paranoid world, needing a CWP.


Actually, I did it as a challenge. I like challenges.

But you just stated it was a "modest" effort. Where's a challenge in a
"modest effort"?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:01:27 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

Especially when they are looking for I-pods,cell phones and cash

And you know he was looking for those things how? You know he was
looking into cars how? Oh, because a murdering vigilante told you that
after he shot the kid.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:16:43 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:



A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

Especially when they are looking for I-pods,cell phones and cash


Where's your proof that the murdered boy was attempting to do that? Got
any? No? Didn't think so.

This whole case has been based on theories and innuendo from the git
go. Why shouldn't Martin get the benefit of some of that?
It sure looks like he is a thief.

There doesn't seem to be much proof that Zimmerman attacked Martin
first or that he acted "evincing a depraved mind" either but that is
what was charged.

I really think this whole thing is just a way for Corey to attack the
stand your ground law and she expects to lose this.



Zimmerman was a hot headed vigilante that was so crazed that 911
dispatchers often ignored him. Oh, and on Zimmerman's own website there
is nothing about looking into cars. He says the kid was walking around
looking at the houses.

From the prosecution affidavit:

"During this time, Martin was on the phone with a friend and described
to her what was happening," the affidavit said. "The witness advised
that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex
by an unknown male and didn't know why.

And:

"When the police dispatcher realized Zimmerman was pursuing Martin, he
instructed Zimmerman not to do that and that the responding officer
would meet him. Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher and
continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home."

And then this:

"Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued," prosecutors said in
their account.

So, if Zimmerman did persue and initiate contact, the stand your ground
rule won't work.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article 30076cdf-60a9-42e8-985f-1b2488499008
@f5g2000vbt.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 13, 8:48*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 4/13/12 7:42 AM, BAR wrote:





In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, *wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
*wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.

Hehehe. Morons. I have a collector's permit and a carry permit. ESAD.

Those Southern boys sure are nervous about your gun permits.
Maybe if they acted in a responsible, decent, adult manner, they'd
have nothing to worry about. ;-)

Anybody would be nervous of a scared, paranoid person huddled in his
basement with a gun......

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article 24820121.82.1334327347315.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynnf1, says...

On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?

You haven't heard? In Florida there is this case right now where a
vigilante, George Zimmerman, shot and killed a young mad, Treyvon Wilson
because he was walking with a soft drink and a bag of Skittles. He
claimed the kid was looking into cars at one point, but on his website
changed his story to say the kid was looking into houses.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Friday, April 13, 2012 11:34:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 24820121.82.1334327347315.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynnf1, says...

On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?

You haven't heard? In Florida there is this case right now where a
vigilante, George Zimmerman,

Of course I've heard. But how does my statement translate into me thinking that a kid doing that needs to be shot? That would be quite a leap of (il)logic.

Try to follow closely... kids look AT cars they are interested in. They look indescrimately into car windows in general because they are interested in what may be IN them.

Now try to understand in your tiny brain, Kevin, that I don't think that Zimmerman should have shot him. However, I also understand that none of us in this NG have all the facts in this case, no matter what Sharpton and the MSM have told you to think.

Cya...

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:42:47 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.


Maryland does have a concealed carry permit but they are very hard to
get and they get reviewed fairly frequently to insure that you still
have the "danger" that allowed you to get the permit in the first
place.

I do know a few licensed collectors up there, including machine guns
but that is a whole different thing.


It's easy to get a permit for an automatic weapon. I have no need or use
for one, but I have friends who own a couple.

As for the CCW permit, it is amazing what you can do with a good quality
liberal arts edu-ma-ca-shun.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37:48 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street..

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?


I think he is citing what you are implying, dumfoch.

Let me help you out, harold. To "cite" is to quote someone or something. Since I neither wrote or implied his statement he can't cite it, and you've improperly used the word "cite". Hope that helps, english major.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:33:12 -0400, wrote:


In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh,
right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells
you to.


I heard the police call, It is online dozens of places.


You mean, of course, that you heard what Zimmerman told the police,
right? That would be the same Zimmerman who beat his wife and got
arrested at a bar for interfering with a law enforcement officer who was
arresting a bar employee who served booze to minors? That Zimmerman, right?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37:48 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?


I think he is citing what you are implying, dumfoch.

Let me help you out, harold. To "cite" is to quote someone or something. Since I neither wrote or implied his statement he can't cite it, and you've improperly used the word "cite". Hope that helps, english major.


He was citing your implication. Which is what I said. As to what you
claimed you implied, well, that's your take on it, eh?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 12/04/2012 2:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X `
wrote:


Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder,
He once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara.
There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need
you to
"defend" them.


I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for
lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge
him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove.
So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the
cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last
night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and
they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as
well.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money,
where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial,
just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those
trials also cost money.


Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a
case. This is politics, pure and simple.
You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not
what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California.
All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily
harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the
legality of how he got into the situation.

That last statement is not precisely as you claim. If he precipitated
the events and then went after the kid...stand your ground may not apply.

Stand your ground or self defense.

I wish the idiots who think you should lay down and take a beating from
a punk should hear themselves think.

--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 13/04/2012 5:37 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X `
wrote:


Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once
again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's
nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil
rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to
"defend" them.


I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax
payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects
(schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail.

The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think
he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless
they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's
story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack
of evidence.

This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it
benefits.

It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him
with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I
guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So
we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those
trials cost a boat load of money too.

We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot
more than they have announced, it is squat.
The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled.

How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed
teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the
police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads

Carl Rowen was a good liberal who only shot at teenagers who had jumped
the fence so they could use his pool. It didn't matter than Carl Rowen
had an illegal handgun and illegally discharged it within city limits.
Carl Rowen was a good liberal so it was swept under the rug.

Excellent point, just the other way around, black kills white.

But black racism towards Hispanics is fostered by the morally corrupt
black president.

Yep, hypocrisy of the real racists and one is a presidente.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Friday, April 13, 2012 1:07:28 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37:48 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article 8387947.350.1334336236776.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@yngq4, says...

On Friday, April 13, 2012 11:34:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 24820121.82.1334327347315.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynnf1, says...

On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?

You haven't heard? In Florida there is this case right now where a
vigilante, George Zimmerman,

Of course I've heard. But how does my statement translate into me thinking that a kid doing that needs to be shot? That would be quite a leap of (il)logic.

Try to follow closely... kids look AT cars they are interested in. They look indescrimately into car windows in general because they are interested in what may be IN them.

Now try to understand in your tiny brain, Kevin, that I don't think that Zimmerman should have shot him. However, I also understand that none of us in this NG have all the facts in this case, no matter what Sharpton and the MSM have told you to think.

Cya...

Well, I see you've turned stupid enough to believe that "Kevin" ****
too! Good for you! You're in great company with Don.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article 28125285.407.1334336600684.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@yneo2, says...

On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37:48 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynjc2, says...

On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop?

Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft
drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence
he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop.

Moron.

The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.
We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

A. Teen-aged boys look into cars.

In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it.

Damned kids needs to be killed eh?

Cite?


I think he is citing what you are implying, dumfoch.

Let me help you out, harold. To "cite" is to quote someone or something. Since I neither wrote or implied his statement he can't cite it, and you've improperly used the word "cite". Hope that helps, english major.

Oh, but you DID imply.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:31:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking
INTO cars.

So you automatically believe everything Zimmerman says, regardless of
the audio of the phone call he was on to his girlfriend? Figures.

We only have 2 statements from what the girlfriend said, starting with
MARTIN initiating the confrontation and Zimmerman answering, then the
phone went dead.

We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found
with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school.

Was he charged with anything? Is this just hearsay? The "burglary tool"
in question was a screwdriver. It's a rough neighborhood where he went
to school, it could have been to defend himself. Funny thing, his
parents never heard about the alleged jewelry and "burglary tool"
screwdriver, just the graffiti.

The cops were still investigating when Martin was shot but cops do not
really investigate burglaries. That is why 99% are unsolved.

... and are you saying Martin brought a WEAPON into the school? That
is a felony right there.

So he should have been killed?

Never heard or just aren't saying?

"Never heard". He was never charged and the school has "zero tolerance"
rules. So......

Oh and the pot, another felony. (any drugs within 1000' of a school,
zero tolerance, no lower limit)
This kid was dodging bullets, being a small time thug until he ran
into a bullet he couldn't dodge.
With the path he was on he was going to die face down in a pool of
blood, or go to jail. It was just a question of when

So, Zimmerman was all right in killing him? The school has a zero
tolerance policy and he was never charged, therefore I doubt there is
anything to these FOX allegations.


If this case gets to the point where they can rebut some statement
about what an angel Martin was I bet a lot more will come out about
his past. The defense certainly will have the chance to show any other
violence in Martin's past to reinforce the idea that he attacked
Zimmerman.

No marks on him, nothing.

No marks on Martin? The police report says Zimmerman was injured
(bleeding from the nose and back of the head)

Did you not see the video? And if anyone, even a criminal is injured,
it's standard procedure that they are taken to a hospital to get medical
care.


I also don't buy this "child" thing.
After all Martin was less than a year away from being able to "join
the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages" (as Arlo would say)

And this has what to do with the case? Age has no meaning here.

It certainly makes the "child" thing less relevant. He was almost a
head taller than Zimmerman and at night, could have been pretty
fearsome. Particularly sitting on him banging his head on the ground.
That is the legal test, "fear"

Well, then that settles it. A man can pursue a person, regardless of
whether the cops tell him that's not a good idea or not, then when that
person, in fear tries to walk away (fast, as the phone conversation
went) and that man can kill the other guy. Got it.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 1:21 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:29:56 -0400, wrote:


Zimmerman was a hot headed vigilante that was so crazed that 911
dispatchers often ignored him. Oh, and on Zimmerman's own website there
is nothing about looking into cars. He says the kid was walking around
looking at the houses.

From the prosecution affidavit:

"During this time, Martin was on the phone with a friend and described
to her what was happening," the affidavit said. "The witness advised
that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex
by an unknown male and didn't know why.

And:

"When the police dispatcher realized Zimmerman was pursuing Martin, he
instructed Zimmerman not to do that and that the responding officer
would meet him. Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher and
continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home."

And then this:

"Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued," prosecutors said in
their account.

So, if Zimmerman did persue and initiate contact, the stand your ground
rule won't work.

Corey was just trying to get an arrest to soothe the mob. She has no
real basis for those statements. It is just her case, let's see what
the defense says.
The only credible witness is the defendant. Nobody else has stepped up
so far to say they saw the start of the fight. The only witness who
says Zimmerman was on top did not even look out her window until after
Martin was shot. We don't really have a clue about the fight except
that Zimmerman was the only one with injuries before the gunshot.

BTW there is nothing in the SYG statute that addresses who started it
and following a stranger on private property is not illegal.






"The only *credible* witness is the defendant." Now, that is funny. A
known wife-beater and assaulter of police, armed with an attitude and a
handgun.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:33:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh,
right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells
you to.


I heard the police call, It is online dozens of places.

OH, so you automatically believe Zimmerman, eh?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On Friday, April 13, 2012 1:06:33 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:33:12 -0400, wrote:


In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh,
right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells
you to.


I heard the police call, It is online dozens of places.


You mean, of course, that you heard what Zimmerman told the police,
right? That would be the same Zimmerman who beat his wife and got
arrested at a bar for interfering with a law enforcement officer who was
arresting a bar employee who served booze to minors? That Zimmerman, right?

You mean what he told police about a 17 year old wanna-be gangbanger that was suspended from school for drugs and drug pipe, had possession of stolen jewelry and burgulary tools, was looking into cars evidently scouting for items to steal? That one?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 2:03 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 1:06:33 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:33:12 -0400, wrote:


In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to
take...

How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh,
right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells
you to.


I heard the police call, It is online dozens of places.


You mean, of course, that you heard what Zimmerman told the police,
right? That would be the same Zimmerman who beat his wife and got
arrested at a bar for interfering with a law enforcement officer who was
arresting a bar employee who served booze to minors? That Zimmerman, right?

You mean what he told police about a 17 year old wanna-be gangbanger that was suspended from school for drugs and drug pipe, had possession of stolen jewelry and burgulary tools, was looking into cars evidently scouting for items to steal? That one?

Zimmerman is the one with the arrest record, Mr. Klansman.

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/2012 1:00 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:42:47 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote:

On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Whatever else is involved, there is no
disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager
who was
doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The
event was
precipitated by Zimmerman.

I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had
shot an
unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note).
In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive.
Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat.


A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.

He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That
doesn't
square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-)

We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a
Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot
someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting
beaten before he pulled his gat.

Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a
Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one
hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to
carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit
from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this
time.

Don't believe everything Harry says.


Maryland does have a concealed carry permit but they are very hard to
get and they get reviewed fairly frequently to insure that you still
have the "danger" that allowed you to get the permit in the first
place.

I do know a few licensed collectors up there, including machine guns
but that is a whole different thing.


It's easy to get a permit for an automatic weapon. I have no need or use
for one, but I have friends who own a couple.

As for the CCW permit, it is amazing what you can do with a good quality
liberal arts edu-ma-ca-shun.

So you do admit you lied/fabricated/ streched the truth, or what ever
you want to call it?

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 

On 4/13/12 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:00:29 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/13/12 12:47 PM, wrote:

I do know a few licensed collectors up there, including machine guns
but that is a whole different thing.


It's easy to get a permit for an automatic weapon. I have no need or use
for one, but I have friends who own a couple.

From what I understand Md CLEOs stopped signing BATF form 4s, 20 years
ago.

Maybe. Never interested enough in one to find out.