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says... In article , says... In article , says... On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 17:20:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:35:14 -0500, BAR wrote: The jury is in on electric cars. They are the future. The problem is that there hasn't been enough R&D to make them feasible yet. The hybrid, gas-electric, is just a diesel-electric locomotive downsized with the added benefit of pulling the electricity generated from breaking and coasting to charge the batteries. The all electric needs needs work with storing enough power to be useful over a longer period of time and distance. === I think we both agree on most of those points. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not it makes sense to roll out half a loaf. Knowing full well the limitations of half a loaf, I still say yes. The reason being that getting some electric cars on the road starts to get people thinking about the infrastucture issues (like charging stations and better batteries). Same thing with alternative energy like wind and solar. If you don't start rolling some of this out to the public you end up with a perpetual chicken and egg syndrome where you can't have the chicken because you don't yet have an egg and vice versa. There are also a lot of people whose transportation needs would be well served right now by a car like the Volt. The problem is price of course, and prices will not come down until there is economy of scale, with the engineering and tooling costs amortized across a wider base. I could use a Volt right now if the price was right. It would be great for running short errands and the like, running on gas for the occasional longer trip. Yes. This is the lesson unlearned in the 70's. Can we really afford to let this go again? The lesson from the 70's was, drill here, drill now. Bull****. If we had drilled here and drilled now in the 70's we would not have had to worry about the middle east at all. They could have ****ed all over each other and it would not have mattered to us in the US because we would have had our own oil being pumped from our own yards. |
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says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 17:20:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:35:14 -0500, BAR wrote: The jury is in on electric cars. They are the future. The problem is that there hasn't been enough R&D to make them feasible yet. The hybrid, gas-electric, is just a diesel-electric locomotive downsized with the added benefit of pulling the electricity generated from breaking and coasting to charge the batteries. The all electric needs needs work with storing enough power to be useful over a longer period of time and distance. === I think we both agree on most of those points. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not it makes sense to roll out half a loaf. Knowing full well the limitations of half a loaf, I still say yes. The reason being that getting some electric cars on the road starts to get people thinking about the infrastucture issues (like charging stations and better batteries). Same thing with alternative energy like wind and solar. If you don't start rolling some of this out to the public you end up with a perpetual chicken and egg syndrome where you can't have the chicken because you don't yet have an egg and vice versa. There are also a lot of people whose transportation needs would be well served right now by a car like the Volt. The problem is price of course, and prices will not come down until there is economy of scale, with the engineering and tooling costs amortized across a wider base. I could use a Volt right now if the price was right. It would be great for running short errands and the like, running on gas for the occasional longer trip. Yes. This is the lesson unlearned in the 70's. Can we really afford to let this go again? The lesson from the 70's was, drill here, drill now. Bull****. If we had drilled here and drilled now in the 70's we would not have had to worry about the middle east at all. They could have ****ed all over each other and it would not have mattered to us in the US because we would have had our own oil being pumped from our own yards. They didn't have the technology back then to find it, to start with. I know because I actually worked for a summer on an exploration crew in the northeast trying to do just that, find oil. Using sonar. |
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What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
On 3/6/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... In , says... In , says... In , says... On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 17:20:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:35:14 -0500, wrote: The jury is in on electric cars. They are the future. The problem is that there hasn't been enough R&D to make them feasible yet. The hybrid, gas-electric, is just a diesel-electric locomotive downsized with the added benefit of pulling the electricity generated from breaking and coasting to charge the batteries. The all electric needs needs work with storing enough power to be useful over a longer period of time and distance. === I think we both agree on most of those points. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not it makes sense to roll out half a loaf. Knowing full well the limitations of half a loaf, I still say yes. The reason being that getting some electric cars on the road starts to get people thinking about the infrastucture issues (like charging stations and better batteries). Same thing with alternative energy like wind and solar. If you don't start rolling some of this out to the public you end up with a perpetual chicken and egg syndrome where you can't have the chicken because you don't yet have an egg and vice versa. There are also a lot of people whose transportation needs would be well served right now by a car like the Volt. The problem is price of course, and prices will not come down until there is economy of scale, with the engineering and tooling costs amortized across a wider base. I could use a Volt right now if the price was right. It would be great for running short errands and the like, running on gas for the occasional longer trip. Yes. This is the lesson unlearned in the 70's. Can we really afford to let this go again? The lesson from the 70's was, drill here, drill now. Bull****. If we had drilled here and drilled now in the 70's we would not have had to worry about the middle east at all. They could have ****ed all over each other and it would not have mattered to us in the US because we would have had our own oil being pumped from our own yards. They didn't have the technology back then to find it, to start with. I know because I actually worked for a summer on an exploration crew in the northeast trying to do just that, find oil. Using sonar. Liar -- O M G |
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What Will GE Force Its People To Drive Now
In article m,
says... On 3/6/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... In , says... In , says... On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 17:20:57 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 13:35:14 -0500, wrote: The jury is in on electric cars. They are the future. The problem is that there hasn't been enough R&D to make them feasible yet. The hybrid, gas-electric, is just a diesel-electric locomotive downsized with the added benefit of pulling the electricity generated from breaking and coasting to charge the batteries. The all electric needs needs work with storing enough power to be useful over a longer period of time and distance. === I think we both agree on most of those points. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not it makes sense to roll out half a loaf. Knowing full well the limitations of half a loaf, I still say yes. The reason being that getting some electric cars on the road starts to get people thinking about the infrastucture issues (like charging stations and better batteries). Same thing with alternative energy like wind and solar. If you don't start rolling some of this out to the public you end up with a perpetual chicken and egg syndrome where you can't have the chicken because you don't yet have an egg and vice versa. There are also a lot of people whose transportation needs would be well served right now by a car like the Volt. The problem is price of course, and prices will not come down until there is economy of scale, with the engineering and tooling costs amortized across a wider base. I could use a Volt right now if the price was right. It would be great for running short errands and the like, running on gas for the occasional longer trip. Yes. This is the lesson unlearned in the 70's. Can we really afford to let this go again? The lesson from the 70's was, drill here, drill now. Bull****. If we had drilled here and drilled now in the 70's we would not have had to worry about the middle east at all. They could have ****ed all over each other and it would not have mattered to us in the US because we would have had our own oil being pumped from our own yards. They didn't have the technology back then to find it, to start with. I know because I actually worked for a summer on an exploration crew in the northeast trying to do just that, find oil. Using sonar. Liar Oh, really? I suppose you have some evidence that I'm lying?? |
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