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On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 10:00:39 -0800, "Califbill"
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 10:36:10 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012...lectric-lemon/


Told you, and you laughed... snerk Sometimes it pays to look at the
world with an open mind...

Has nothing to do with the technology and everything to do with the
sales.

It has everything to do with the COST of the technology tho.

Basically the problem is battery cost vs price.
These things are rich man's toys. If saving money is your objective,
buy a Cruze and put the left over $20,000-30,000 toward gas.

I understand the government will subsidize your electric car purchase
to make that price delta look more attractive but that does not reduce
the cost, it only transfers it to people who can't afford to buy one.


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Very true. Look at the subsidy for a Tesla. Average income of a Tesla
buyer? $250k. As to technology. In 1919 an electric car got 30 miles to
the charge. What does a Volt get? 30 miles. Not a lot of technology
improvement in nearly a 100 years. Still down to battery technology. Plus
where is the power to charge going to come from? They say no pollution.
What about that coal or oil fired generating plant?

Actually they had a range of about 100 miles, but you'd probably bitch
about the 20 mph top speed, the eisenglass windows, and no gasoline
backup.

It appears that the same problems they were having 100 years ago with
electric vehicles are the same problems they have today.

http://inventors.about.com/od/estart...c-Vehicles.htm

The initiation of mass production of internal combustion engine vehicles
by Henry Ford made these vehicles widely available and affordable in the
$500 to $1,000 price range. By contrast, the price of the less
efficiently produced electric vehicles continued to rise. In 1912, an
electric roadster sold for $1,750, while a gasoline car sold for $650.

I'm waiting on the fuel cell. You people talk like the Wright Brothers
were idiots for not building the 747, first. Maybe Edison should have
invented the halogen bulb, first.

You will notice that the Wright brothers plane runs on the same fuel
that today's 747 runs on.

The response you'll type to this will be possible because of all of
the money spent 50+ years ago on the space program, which a lot of
people said was idiotic and useless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

Things change and the gas station as we know it is on the same path as
the blacksmith at the end of the 19th century.

The fueling station will not change for another 50 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Energy_density.svg

You will notice that the Lion battery is way down near 0,0.