On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?

On 12/29/2011 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?


Wonder if it was a Pahkah...

On 12/29/11 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?



Since we don't yet know what the boat in question was, perhaps the real
issue is the stupidity of trying to raise a *really stuck* anchor from
the stern or under many circumstances from the bow. There are techniques
that can help, but sometimes the damned just isn't going to come loose
no matter what you do from the surface. If you are doing natural reef or
artificial structure fishing, you're going to get a hard stuck anchor
from time to time. Rather than risking the boat or ripping off deck
hardware not designed for the stress of pulling up a hard stuck anchor,
the best bet is to cut the line.

When I fished the St. Augustine inlet area, I knew I'd lose a couple of
anchors there a season. After the first season, I stopped buying the
more expensive "Danforth" branded anchors and went for the less
expensive imitators.

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On 12/29/11 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?



Since we don't yet know what the boat in question was, perhaps the real
issue is the stupidity of trying to raise a *really stuck* anchor from
the stern or under many circumstances from the bow. There are techniques
that can help, but sometimes the damned just isn't going to come loose
no matter what you do from the surface. If you are doing natural reef or
artificial structure fishing, you're going to get a hard stuck anchor
from time to time. Rather than risking the boat or ripping off deck
hardware not designed for the stress of pulling up a hard stuck anchor,
the best bet is to cut the line.

When I fished the St. Augustine inlet area, I knew I'd lose a couple of
anchors there a season. After the first season, I stopped buying the
more expensive "Danforth" branded anchors and went for the less
expensive imitators.

"but sometimes the damned just isn't going to come loose
no matter what you do from the surface"

Could you please correct that into "the Q ueen's English" so that your
cowardly buddy Don can understand it?

X ` Man wrote:
On 12/29/11 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:35:21 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The boat in question was a 33-footer, thus pretty much putting the
kibash on W'hine's attempt to troll.

===

In all seriousness the incident does raise important questions about
what type of boat was involved. Pulling a stuck anchor from the
stern is obviously a dubious practice but most 33 footers would not be
sunk as a result. Was the transom too low or motor well protection
not in place? Insufficient or non-existent self bailing scuppers?
Insuficient protection from cabin down flooding?



Since we don't yet know what the boat in question was, perhaps the
real issue is the stupidity of trying to raise a *really stuck* anchor
from the stern or under many circumstances from the bow. There are
techniques that can help, but sometimes the damned just isn't going to
come loose no matter what you do from the surface. If you are doing
natural reef or artificial structure fishing, you're going to get a
hard stuck anchor from time to time. Rather than risking the boat or
ripping off deck hardware not designed for the stress of pulling up a
hard stuck anchor, the best bet is to cut the line.

When I fished the St. Augustine inlet area, I knew I'd lose a couple
of anchors there a season. After the first season, I stopped buying
the more expensive "Danforth" branded anchors and went for the less
expensive imitators.

A couple - EACH SEASON? I've left ONE behind in 20+ years of boating.
You obviously don't know how to anchor properly in the first place.
Choosing the right location is the first step - the one you missed.

-HB