On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company
is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat
during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have
multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission

India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar.
Unless that allegation is delusional also.

this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that
everyone is rushing to buy our debt

or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 01:58:05 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company
is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat
during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have
multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission

India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar.
Unless that allegation is delusional also.

this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that
everyone is rushing to buy our debt

or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.


successful companies left here because the middle class has been
destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder

On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.


successful companies left here because the middle class has been
destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder

I'll help you one final time. Let's pretend you had the ability to start
and operate a company, producing something within your skill set -
say.....cream cheese dildos. Business was great and you were shipping all
over the continent.

Suddenly sales nose dive. You wonder why. You look around and see cream
cheese dildo's being shipped to your marketplace from Japan, Korea and
China. You decide to get even with them and ship to Japan, Korea and China!
DAMN THEM *******S. Then you learn that Japan and Korea don't allow your
cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo
industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos.

What do you do? Pick one:

1) Wring your hands and bitch in new groups,

2) Import your dildo's from China and flood the marketplace in the same was
Walmart does,

or,

3) Form a joint venture with the red Chinese government to make dildo's in
China for export to North America - because you're not permitted to build
and ship from Japan or Korea. (This is what happened to your automobile
industry)

Either way you fire all the employees in your U.S. dildo plant, file
bankruptcy, and move to Asia, unless you select option 1 where you beg from
your bankrupt government.

You're lucky stupidity isn't painful.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:59:25 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.


successful companies left here because the middle class has been
destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder

I'll help you one final time. Let's pretend you had the ability to start
and operate a company, producing something within your skill set -
say.....cream cheese dildos. Business was great and you were shipping all
over the continent.

Suddenly sales nose dive. You wonder why. You look around and see cream
cheese dildo's being shipped to your marketplace from Japan, Korea and
China. You decide to get even with them and ship to Japan, Korea and China!
DAMN THEM *******S. Then you learn that Japan and Korea don't allow your
cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo
industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos.

now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE
read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example

1. restricting imports reduces competitiveness and drives up costs
2. when these countries tried to EXPORT their goods they'd find they
were over priced and would be driven out of the market
3. this is effectively a SUBSIDY for these products paid for by a TAX
on the importing country's population

oh. you dont know economics. you've never taken a course.



3) Form a joint venture with the red Chinese government to make dildo's in
China for export to North America - because you're not permitted to build
and ship from Japan or Korea. (This is what happened to your automobile
industry)

let's see....what's the status of IP protection in china?

oh. there is none. but you didnt realize that 'cuz you've never done
business there.

you'd be pathetic if you weren't hopeless

On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo
industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos.

now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE
read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example

What was described was not an example, it is what happened to your country.
There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your
government) dumping of everything foreign into your country. The condition I
explained in terms that could be understood even by your neighbors was too
confusing for you. I told you I'd explain what happened only one more time.
Now it's your option to whine until "things get better."

If you gave a flying rats ass you'd demand your "representatives" to require
reciprocal trade, but that would take an effort, and the fat happy and
stupid in your country (95%) refuse to do so. Another action would be to
stop sending your money overseas (much of it to me) but you're too lazy to
do that too.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:29:18 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo
industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos.

now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE
read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example

What was described was not an example, it is what happened to your country.

IOW you got your ass kicked so now you want to slink away, because you
dont know **** about the US or economics

no kiddin'

There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your
government)

golly. what country has 'free' trade?

oh. all of them except us. so you you say. the US is unique in that
it's exploding and dying, except, you admit, every other country is
exploding and will die before us

wow. what an argument.

If you gave a flying rats ass you'd demand your "representatives" to require
reciprocal trade, but that would take an effort, and the fat happy and
stupid in your country (95%) refuse to do so. Another action would be to
stop sending your money overseas (much of it to me) but you're too lazy to
do that too.

now let's see...he doesn't know there is an american right wing and
that not all americans are far right

yeah. he's plugged in alright

On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your
government)

golly. what country has 'free' trade?

It was a LONG time ago, (hours maybe!!) but you brought up the phrase "free
trade". As you have nothing to say, I suggest you print my information, tape
it to an inside wall of your trailer and read it several times a day. Also
notice that it makes no difference to me what happens to your incfome,
family or country's economy. My input was to help you, but you like things
as they are in your country's waning days.

On 02/12/2011 6:58 PM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 2-Dec-2011, wrote:

I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company
is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat
during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have
multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission

India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar.
Unless that allegation is delusional also.

this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that
everyone is rushing to buy our debt

or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.

And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA
is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the
problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper hole.

All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 2-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated.
That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.

And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA
is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the
problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper
hole.

To recover, there has to something to be recovered. Your core economic base
is gone. Productive output is not an option for 4 to 5 generations. What
you need to do is adapt to a very uncomfortable living standard.

On 03/12/2011 7:01 AM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 2-Dec-2011, wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated.
That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.

And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA
is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the
problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper
hole.

To recover, there has to something to be recovered. Your core economic base
is gone. Productive output is not an option for 4 to 5 generations. What
you need to do is adapt to a very uncomfortable living standard.

Agreed. And that is why this economic downturn is going to be 2
decades. Just like Russia and others have done. I don't think it takes
4-5 generations. Perhaps 1 or 2. But certainly a lot longer than a
year or three.

Not really worried about me, I just have to pace inflation and I will
not run out of cash flow until I am well over 100 and not likely to live
that long. That is conservative too, as 2/3rd is tax paid and does not
include pensions.

Nope, the people really getting screwed are the mid-lifers and those
loosing jobs they cannot replace and lost them to economic screw ups by
their own government. Then they lose the house, the marriage...and
almost impossible to recover from that. A major life setback.

And my grand kids are also the ones really going to be screwed.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.